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Posted: 11 years ago
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My dear Alakhnanda,

You flatter me to excess, my dear, but thank you very, very much. It is really sweet of you.

As for Jodha, your explanation is the shortest and neatest one I have seen so far, and spot on too!

Shyamala Aunty


Originally posted by: ALAKHNANDA


AUNTY I M JST SPEECHLESS. DONT HAVE ADJECTIVES IN MY DICTIONARY TO PRAISE SUCH A MASTER PIECE👏 ABT JODHA'S SILENCE I JST WANT TO SAY " VINASH KALE VIPRIT BUDDHI"

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Ok aunty the latest pics of rajat nd pari its almost clear tht the amer nd the jungle track is on. So the twist in the tale is tht the latest promo can turn out to be as sumone's dream.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: munnirony

Ok aunty the latest pics of rajat nd pari its almost clear tht the amer nd the jungle track is on. So the twist in the tale is tht the latest promo can turn out to be as sumone's dream.

Good then. I DON'T WANT Jalal to fall at anyone's feet.

And yes I too want the jungle track on - time for all her nirdosh pashu pakshis to face her music. Why should jalal be the only scapegoat everytime. Just because he has uncontrollably fallen for the girl. Unfair.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sandhya.A


<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Good then. I DON'T WANT Jalal to fall at anyone's feet.</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">And yes I too want the jungle track on - time for all her nirdosh pashu pakshis to face her music. Why should jalal be the only scapegoat everytime. Just because he has uncontrollably fallen for the girl. Unfair.</font>



Ya but whts the use? He had to go behind her to find her. Nd besides HB, salima amer people evryone will lecture him hard for doubting jodha. I think it will reach another heights of jodha Puja.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#95
You know, my dearest girl, when I see you all,one after one, saying that this is my best post yet, or one of my best so far, it makes me smile, for if it is so good (and I must tell you that it did not flow easily for a while, and in the end, after 4 hours, I found that it was not quite what I had planned to write!), it is more because of the material, and less because of me.

It is exactly what Tripti says, and rightly so, that she can easily make out where I was inspired and where I was not. For this one, I was truly inspired.

I loved all your extremely eloquent comments, and the parts I liked the very best of all, and my sparse comments, are in blue.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Aunty,
Thanks for one of the finest posts. But not all of what we can adore and praise Rajat can do full justice to his terrific performance on Friday. But your post has almost.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Both a jungle track and an Amer track? How? The Amerites will not take her back as a parityakta, so how can she go to Amer? And what of Sujamal?

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: munnirony

Ok aunty the latest pics of rajat nd pari its almost clear tht the amer nd the jungle track is on. So the twist in the tale is tht the latest promo can turn out to be as sumone's dream.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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"As for Rajat, he deserves an even better writer, but I did my best. I cannot imagine what people mean by saying that he was OTT. He needed to be.Have they never watched some of the greatest actors lt themselves go? That is why I used the term Shakespearian, but there are so manhy examples closer to home. This was not a Victorian tea party, but a very explosive situation, and it needed that fury.

As things turned out, it was like one half of The Lion in Winter, minus the contribution of the Katharine Hepburn character.

I only wish Paridhi too had let rip, if only at the end. How can Jodha take an accusation of being an adulteress, that too by her husband, and do nothing to deny it?
"
Aunty .. I also found his performance good. The rage and its display was needed! I haven't watched 'The Lion in Winter" which starred Katherine. But I have watched the telly remake ... As it turns out, it was a huge maze of tough emotions and their display in manner which is not agreeable to many. Not for the faint hearted it was!
But I absolutely do not find anything odd in some people finding it OTT. I do wish They had given some anguished dialogues to Paridhi too. There should have been more retakes with her eyes doing the talking... she has good eyes that can emote well!
And now, with your permission, I'd like to join a discussion, uninvited with Sandhya.(Off course, everyone knows I quite like Jo...) She has put extremely relevant points. And I do agree that Jo has little to make Jalal any better. But yes, she has opened his eyes , as Lashy rightly pointed out to a little better side of people. Not sure if it would have happened anyways, but Jalal has started getting a little closer to his own mom(a more positive influence) than he is to badi ammi, he has started to acknowledge the darker side of his bachpan ki dost, he has started to view winning hearts as a better war strategy and he has also openied his heart,court and subedaari positions for non-muslims, after he got acquianted to Jo.
Needless to say, he might have still acheived it sooner or later...
On Benazir's track, again people may have a different view, but I do not believe Ruq would have drunk poison herself...she'd have thrown a huge tantrum in front of Jalal, broken many expensive vases , slapped all harem maids and had made sure Jalal tried it on a jail inmate or a nirdosh pashu like a cat/dog! She is resourceful enough to ensure this happens.
And if she had been in a position similar to that of Jo, I doubt if she would have cared.
Again different folks, different strokes and even more different takes!
The above is not to bring in Ruq in this discussion that is just not for her, but only to highlight a few positives of Jo... and open Jalal's eyes to even more difference in characters. Off course, to make it a Rajvanshi trait is silly. Jo's positiveness is her alone, not coz she is Rajvanshi... the dialogs are only to please the senas I do not wish to name!
However to expect Jo to be able to be as diplomatic, perceptive and resourceful is a tall order! He was Akbar the great after all and Jo just his preferred queen.
My anger with CVs is not for making Jo mahaan( by all means I am open to all her good hunars) but in bringing in the age old perception that women and diplomacy do not go hand in hand. Why can a woman not be diplomatic and positive. Why is diplomacy of women a negative trait? Why make a calm collected diplomatic Ruq begum look like a scheming vamp(I finally watched the older episodes of JA just to see smiley in action.I had not seen JA in its initial days She was good) Surely Akbar had sufficient drama masala all his life without adding to the women kitchen politics. When will the makers realise that woman have moved so high up from the kitchen ... why not subtely make Jo and Ruq quiet calm pillars of strength for Jalal? And no these women have no reason to be friends , but they can still be royally stiff upper lipped around each other. Sigh...
I am not even sure if I have made any sense and if Aunty is wishing why she ever set sight on my reply.
I was angry that Jo's character was not given any dialogs in what could have been the best scene on telly for this month atleast?
And feminism is not about losing femininity as is mentioned somewhere here... its about ensuring women have as much right to be right and WRONG as any other gender...Lol.
Edited by minnie2308 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#98
Hi,
With great respect..I dare to reply to you Shyamla Di.. I have always silently admired your posts ..but never dared to reply..You are on such a high Pedestal on this forum that I hardly dared to write to you. Its not fear but the respect. The flawless writing with such a superlative command over words .Your posts also equally deserve an standing ovation as much ads Rajat''s performance. The nuances you have mentioned about his expressions, his actions make his performance stand out even more.. I can only salute your efforts that you take to render such wonderful posts which are nothing less than beautiful poetry.. that just makes a way into your heart. Thank you so much for giving us this opportunity to relish your masterpieces ..Please keep posting more often..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Oh dear, the hanuman tail is growing...and I haven't even had the time to read, let alone post anything.
I am missing all the fun...
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Posted: 11 years ago
We are not giving you undeserved praise. An artist is only worth as much as the acknowledgement that his art garners him/her. It's a crime not to give praise when it is rightly deserved.

Originally posted by: sashashyam

You know, my dearest girl, when I see you all,one after one, saying that this is my best post yet, or one of my best so far, it makes me smile, for if it is so good (and I must tell you that it did not flow easily for a while, and in the end, after 4 hours, I found that it was not quite what I had planned to write!), it is more because of the material, and less because of me.

It is exactly what Tripti says, and rightly so, that she can easily make out where I was inspired and where I was not. For this one, I was truly inspired.

I loved all your extremely eloquent comments, and the parts I liked the very best of all, and my sparse comments, are in blue.

Shyamala Aunty

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