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Posted: 11 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: Joja

Thanks for adding me to your buddy list Mansi.

And I must say you have taken this serial so seriously and thought so much. Else there is no way you can analyze it so well with so many possibilities.

I am still thinking about your analysis and more than them and thinking about you J

Agreed with all the points you have mentioned.

Regarding the last point or Who will hold the Haram responsibility - I strongly feel it will continue to be Ruq.

The reason -

1. Jalal too knows how dear and near is Harm for ruq and he might not want to take it from her

2. As you mentioned if Jodha wins and gives it back to Ruq, she might not take her, as well know her nature is.

3. But Jodha/Jalal might discuss and do something that it still remains with Ruq.

4. Another Positive point from this would be - Jalal will get more confirmed that Jodha does not give importance to auda and he starts trusting her more.

See, as I have written in reply to other posts, Joja, the issue is not whether Jalal will do this or that from his own mind?
Now that jalal wants to rule by winning the hearts and minds of his people will he bow to the wishes of the haremites and do what they feel they want?
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Posted: 11 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: Abie10

Mansi, interesting questions raised!👏👏👏

Going from harem people yesterday, I think Jodha will win if they go by voting on who'll be in control of harem. But she'll give it back to Ruqaiya..the question is whether Ruqaiya will accept it. Ruqaiya took that fight between those two bandis personal that's where she fell flat. 😆


Women like Ruqaiya do exist where they have been the only wife in control before another woman comes in her husbands life. And here its Ruqaiya herself who's pushing Jalal to Jodha because of her foolishness.

Yes Abie, getting the audha that someone else won in the voting is worse ... it looks like Jodha's cast-offs! Will Ruq want that?
And as for women like Ruq, they have had a free reign for so long that they cannot bear now to share their powers or whatever they own (including the husband) with others!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: swepa



considering the present turmoil situation against ekta and the serial i don't think cv's will take the risk of jalal suspecting jodha of infidility, or about rajvanshi loyalty and sincerty towards jalal and further increase the mess due to sujamal's entry. they may postpone his visit to agra and continue with shariff's plans and ja jo' love story. they may bring some changes in the story line without mu and continue the tracks without getting involved in controversial tracks for atlest another 3 or 4 months till the elections are over.

I agree I also do not think there will an MU caused by suspicion of infidelity. Nit just because of the recent protests, but also becxause they have already done something similar in the fake pregnancy track!
There may be some other MU, or the Creatives may surprise us by making no MU at all. See we thought historically hakim would be an enemy and against him would be Mansingh ... but till now Hakkim is still on jalal's side and mansingh and he are getting along nicely too!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: skanda12

See, as I have written in reply to other posts, Joja, the issue is not whether Jalal will do this or that from his own mind?

Now that jalal wants to rule by winning the hearts and minds of his people will he bow to the wishes of the haremites and do what they feel they want?

Mansi, did they have any kind of elections in thsoe days.
did they choose leaders based on people's choice?
Even if people ask Jo to take the position, I guess Jodha might deny it and say Ruq is more eligible and knows haram/people well as she did in front of Ruq a few days back.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: aashyagh

Originally posted by aashyagh

In real, if they had so much MU's, then Akbar would have sent his wife permanently back to Amer forever, seriously, atleast keeping the history in mind, they shouldn't bring up MU's again and again. how many times, do we need to take the "ghrina" "nafrat" from the leads. Show can run even with the leads trusting each other and with their romance as well
The truth is that MUs increase TRP, whether we like it or not! Even my aunt sees these episodes only when there is separation track. When all is going good between the leads my aunt starts watching other serials where there are MUs! What can we do with such people?
***So in that case, we all cannot be into the "sane" list😕, but what about history, we know that there will be fiction, but you know I expected that this show atleast will not show much of MU's and separation like other shows, as it is related to history, but I think I expected too much.
Atleast showing Jalal's journey to Akbar and the way Jo became MUZ and got powers and how she was influential, rather than making her "mahan" would have been great.

Even historically there was an MU between jalal and hakim but see till now they have not shown any MU? Why should we assume that there will be an MU with Sujamal entry. maybe things will not automatically start with an MU. let's wait and see ...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: Joja

Mansi, did they have any kind of elections in thsoe days.
did they choose leaders based on people's choice?
Even if people ask Jo to take the position, I guess Jodha might deny it and say Ruq is more eligible and knows haram/people well as she did in front of Ruq a few days back.

Don't know the answer to that. maybe only Abhay can tell us!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#57
GOOD ANALYSIS MANSI, MY NET IS NOT WORKING GOOD.
BUT I READ SOME ANALYSIS GOOD POINTS;

YESTERDAY EPISODE RUK ENERTED LIKE AS A KOPP-BHAWAN.😉I

WHAT IS DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEGUM'E KHAS & KHAS BEGUM DIKSHA CLEARED IT MANY GOOD WAYS.

MY MIND IS THINKING, WHEN JALAL MET HAREM LADIES, HE WILL KNOW REALITY OF HAREM

THEN HE WILL DECIDED ELECTIONS.

RUK, ELECTED BY JALAL, SO MANY YEARS, BUT SHE NOT ASTABLISHED OWN AS A GOOD QUEEN, SHE DON'T KNOWS HER DESIRES.

SHE IS MUGHAL &MUGHAL LADIES ALSO LIVES IN HAREM THIS IS NOT A VALID REASON SHE ELECTED.BEFORE JODHA COMING SITUATION WAS DIFFERENT. NO-BODY COMPLAINTS.
JALAL BEHAVIOUR WAS ALSO DIFFERENT.( NO- BODY KNOWS ABOUT RIGHTS) BUT THINGS
ARE CHANGING NOW.(SALIM- CHISTHI WORDS ARE COMING TRUE) JALAL IS AWARING NOW.

WE KNOW RUK WANTS TO BECOME HAREM INCHARGE EVERYTIME;;;;;;;;;SO SHE SHOULD PROVE HERSELF. WHICH IS IMPOSSIBLE?

JODHA RAISED VALID QUES. IF A QUEEN NOT RAISED QUES WHO WILL RAISE?

(BEFORE JODHA THEY ALL WAS SLEEPING) AFTER SLEEPING WAKING-UP LITTLE TROUBLE FOR OTHERS. THAT IS HAPPENING.

SUPPOSE JALAL TELLS RUK;;;;;;;THESE ARE HAREM PROBLEMS SO SHE SHOULD SORT
OUT THESE PROBLEMS IS RUK ACCEPT THIS?

RUK'S IGO IS SO BIG SHE NEVER LISTENS JALAL. HER NATURE IS WHICH THING IS MINE;;;;;;;MINE. NO BODY CAN SNATCHED.

QUES HERE IS THIS WHO WILL JALAL CHOOSE NOT BUT WHAT IS GOOD FOR HAREM.

RUK IS THINKING ACC TO HER;;NOT AS A JUDGE SHE IS COMPERING THIS ISSUE

OWN HER OWN LIFE. (YOUR MARRIAGE HAS DONE. YOU FALL IN LOVE WHO IS STOPPING
YOU)
BUT RUKSANA, AZIZA MAZHAR MATTER IS DIFFERENT. THEY NOT MARRIED YET.

QUES;;;;;;;;;WHO WILL JALAL VOTE?

MAYBEE HE WILL WITHDRAW HE WILL SAY;;;;;;;HAREM LADIES ELECTION HE WILL SEE THIS

MATTER AS A JUDGE.

IF ELECTION RESULT WILL BE TIE;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;PROBLEM

BUT RUK'S IGO OR HER WRONG WAYS OF WORKING, GUESS IF JODHA WILL WIN,
(WHY CV SHOWED THIS ISSU)

IF CV WANTS TO SHOW WRONG METHOD OF WRONGING RUK ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;GAP WILL NATURALLY COME JALAL&RUK REALTIONSHIP. BECAUSE RUK NOT INVESTING THIS REALTIONSHIP.

WHEN MAHAM SAYS YESTERDAY THIS MATTER GOES TO JALAL. IF JODHA CAN GO. WHY SHE CAN'T GO. WHO IS STOPPING HER. WHY SHE NOT SAID JALAL ;;;;;;;;;;;;;YOU ARE MY FRIEND. HUSBAND. OR KING;;;;;;;;;WHAT SHOULD I DO SOME PROBLEM;;;;;;;; I NEED YOUR HELP;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;(HER IGO OR WRONG PEOPLE ADVICE DAMAGING HER)

ACC TO TV SPOILER;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;JODHA WILL GIVE MAYBEE MAHARANI TITLE

EQUAL TO BEGUM'E KHAS. PROBLEMS CAN GO BOTH OF THEM. BUT RUK WILL NOT SAY SOMETHING. BUT SHE WILL HURT.

NEXT TRACK SHE WILL CREATE PROBLEM


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by aashyagh

Originally posted by aashyagh

In real, if they had so much MU's, then Akbar would have sent his wife permanently back to Amer forever, seriously, atleast keeping the history in mind, they shouldn't bring up MU's again and again. how many times, do we need to take the "ghrina" "nafrat" from the leads. Show can run even with the leads trusting each other and with their romance as well
The truth is that MUs increase TRP, whether we like it or not! Even my aunt sees these episodes only when there is separation track. When all is going good between the leads my aunt starts watching other serials where there are MUs! What can we do with such people?
***So in that case, we all cannot be into the "sane" list😕, but what about history, we know that there will be fiction, but you know I expected that this show atleast will not show much of MU's and separation like other shows, as it is related to history, but I think I expected too much.
Atleast showing Jalal's journey to Akbar and the way Jo became MUZ and got powers and how she was influential, rather than making her "mahan" would have been great.
Even historically there was an MU between jalal and hakim but see till now they have not shown any MU? Why should we assume that there will be an MU with Sujamal entry. maybe things will not automatically start with an MU. let's wait and see ...
***I also hope that there wil be no MU, all this while I was having hopes, but seeing so many posts in forum about MU, that is become negative now.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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awsome post 👏 as far rukkaiya i am confused this lady have many shades yesterday i felt bad for her when she was crying but then the way she forced her decision on the bandi i hated it
rukkaiya have doubts on jodha that she is still not sincere with mughal sultanat all because of maham anga & now sujamal is all set to visit jodha things sure going to be worse
as far Khas Begum & Begum E Khas both have alomost same meaning ''Khas begum'' means special begum & ''Begum e Khas'' means special to begum or special of begum but but '' Begum e Khas '' is a title
& as per history the harem was under Begum Rukkaiay Sultan supervision till Begum Noorjahan came
i am waiting how this harem issue will solve by jalal i don't want a voting system happen which will be wierd ..what i think jodha took a stand opposite rukkaiya to made her realize that the post '' Begum e Khas '' doesn't mean to force your will on other but to make good use of the power & that will be intresting how jodha will do it ? what will be jalal decision after hearing the whole harem war story ? not to forget sujamal is coming to agra

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