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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thanks for adding me to your buddy list Mansi.

And I must say you have taken this serial so seriously and thought so much. Else there is no way you can analyze it so well with so many possibilities.

I am still thinking about your analysis and more than them and thinking about you J

Agreed with all the points you have mentioned.

Regarding the last point or Who will hold the Haram responsibility - I strongly feel it will continue to be Ruq.

The reason -

1. Jalal too knows how dear and near is Harm for ruq and he might not want to take it from her

2. As you mentioned if Jodha wins and gives it back to Ruq, she might not take her, as well know her nature is.

3. But Jodha/Jalal might discuss and do something that it still remains with Ruq.

4. Another Positive point from this would be - Jalal will get more confirmed that Jodha does not give importance to auda and he starts trusting her more.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: neeshaa16


Dear Mansi,

Your take on not-so-good-episode is really wonderful. I again am spellbound by your writing kaa"Hunar"... How can you write so elaborately on nothing much to write about episode ??? Again you analyze each situation so deeply.. I wouldn't have troubled my brain ..so much...

Anyway..Mansi, I am sort of puzzled by this BEK title..If we go according to the movie...Jodha Akbar where Jodha is declared Maallikai-Hindustaan" and actually as per historical facts also she was the most powerful queen of Akbar..but that she becomes powerful only after she is MUZ and not before that...

So its quite obvious here that she will not accept BEK title... but what if she is forced to .. b'coz the Awam and majority of people in the Mahal favour her?? If she still declines... it wont be right on her part to do so.. because then she will be hurting those who have voted for her.. Whats your take on this??





This movie is also not true to history that's why I was hoping Abhay would explain this BEK and MUZ issue further!😲
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi, interesting questions raised!👏👏👏

Going from harem people yesterday, I think Jodha will win if they go by voting on who'll be in control of harem. But she'll give it back to Ruqaiya..the question is whether Ruqaiya will accept it. Ruqaiya took that fight between those two bandis personal that's where she fell flat. 😆


Women like Ruqaiya do exist where they have been the only wife in control before another woman comes in her husbands life. And here its Ruqaiya herself who's pushing Jalal to Jodha because of her foolishness.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MaddyO



Actually Neesha I think you should read History_geek's threads about this
I remember reading Jodha was given title of Wali-E-Nimat (Please excuse Abhay if I have not written it the correct way!) BEFORE giving birth to Salim

Yes that has confused me even more because I am not able to get the relative hierarchy of these titles, which is above which!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: aashyagh

In real, if they had so much MU's, then Akbar would have sent his wife permanently back to Amer forever, seriously, atleast keeping the history in mind, they shouldn't bring up MU's again and again. how many times, do we need to take the "ghrina" "nafrat" from the leads. Show can run even with the leads trusting each other and with their romance as well



considering the present turmoil situation against ekta and the serial i don't think cv's will take the risk of jalal suspecting jodha of infidility, or about rajvanshi loyalty and sincerty towards jalal and further increase the mess due to sujamal's entry. they may postpone his visit to agra and continue with shariff's plans and ja jo' love story. they may bring some changes in the story line without mu and continue the tracks without getting involved in controversial tracks for atlest another 3 or 4 months till the elections are over.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Hi Mansi,

Great post! 👏

Historically I think Ruq was the head of the harem till the end. And I believe (though Abhay, Jodah need to confirm this) she was even involved in the upbringing of Jalal's kids even though Jodha was officially the MUZ. This election thing is a bit OTT 😆

It's not so much who will head the harem but who is more khas to Jalal.

Maybe Jodha may win the BEK title temporarily (if I remember correctly Jalal had said in the Tasneem track that there were now 3 BEKs to MA.). And she may later lose it after the Sujamal MU, when she may fall out of grace with Jalal? Ruq may then regain her lost ground by sheer virtue of her loyalty to Jalal.

Loved the way Jodha approached Jalal - the machine gun firing of earlier times has been replaced with soft pleading to the justice-loving side of the Shahenshah. He couldn't say no to her when she looked at him through those big brown eyes like a puppy (and esp after she had used the prem astra on him the day before). 😆 That's why after she left, he was left holding his head and wondering how she could wrap him around her little finger and make him do anything, even get into the quicksand politics of the harem and the direct firing line of Ruq.

And this is where the precap follows. He is faking the headache not just to get some TLC from Jodha, but also to avoid letting her talk him into something controversial again 😆

On that line in blue I slightly differ from you. Previously it would have been true that we should see who is more Khas to Jalal, but after Jodha has shown Jalal that he needs to win the hearts of his praja if he is to be a good ruler, Jalal himself will now think "Who is more khas to the praja?". In that Jodha may win hands down, so then what should Jalal do? I personally think Jalal may actually tell Ruq that she should bow to the wishes of the people and that may shell-shock Ruq!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: aashyagh

In real, if they had so much MU's, then Akbar would have sent his wife permanently back to Amer forever, seriously, atleast keeping the history in mind, they shouldn't bring up MU's again and again. how many times, do we need to take the "ghrina" "nafrat" from the leads. Show can run even with the leads trusting each other and with their romance as well

The truth is that MUs increase TRP, whether we like it or not! Even my aunt sees these episodes only when there is separation track. When all is going good between the leads my aunt starts watching other serials where there are MUs! What can we do with such people?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by aashyagh

In real, if they had so much MU's, then Akbar would have sent his wife permanently back to Amer forever, seriously, atleast keeping the history in mind, they shouldn't bring up MU's again and again. how many times, do we need to take the "ghrina" "nafrat" from the leads. Show can run even with the leads trusting each other and with their romance as well
The truth is that MUs increase TRP, whether we like it or not! Even my aunt sees these episodes only when there is separation track. When all is going good between the leads my aunt starts watching other serials where there are MUs! What can we do with such people?
***So in that case, we all cannot be into the "sane" list😕, but what about history, we know that there will be fiction, but you know I expected that this show atleast will not show much of MU's and separation like other shows, as it is related to history, but I think I expected too much.
Atleast showing Jalal's journey to Akbar and the way Jo became MUZ and got powers and how she was influential, rather than making her "mahan" would have been great.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rima4ever

yesterday the fight scene between the 2 bandhis surprised me

then when ruq came barging in i hated it
i saw the case exactly as ruq saw it
it was a case of childhood friendship to fixed marriage to growing up to falling for some one else
it was the exact case of jalal ruq jodha now
only difference is that mazhar ruksana were not married in chilhood
they were only engaged
i feel ruksana is like ruq only
power hungry riches loving
so ruq saw ditto her same image in ruksana
that made ruq support ruksana so fiercely

Also Rima, the law is now changed against forced marriages so we have to see how that is applied in this Mazhar-Ruksana-Aziza case! Jodha raised that law point yesterday!

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