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Posted: 11 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: -ambrosia-



so she was alive even after 1562😲..strange😲...but its true thanx for the info 😛...

Means vo adham ki death ke baad bhi kaafi time tak zinda rahi thi...
I want to know ki MA ka real face akbar ke saamne kab aaya or kaise??



@bold

Buddy, do not take conclusions right now.
History should not be concluded so easily. 😊 (my personal opinion)
We are only discussing MA right now. Leave Adham for time being, it is different issue. We did not talk of him here till now...😊

Also, MA was exposed, but when i do not have 100% info.
Wait a bit more. It is better option.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: history_geek



@bold

Buddy, do not take conclusions right now.
History should not be concluded so easily. 😊 (my personal opinion)
We are only discussing MA right now. Leave Adham for time being, it is different issue. We did not talk of him here till now...😊

Also, MA was exposed, but when i do not have 100% info.
Wait a bit more. It is better option.

ok 😊..main wait karungi😊..
thanx 😛

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Posted: 11 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: history_geek



Adi,
Exactly, Maham was suspiciously/certainly alive even after 1562...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....

I am getting highly skeptical of Akbarnama now...though it gives, 16 may and 25 june...1562...but these are disputed highly..!!

i checked royal chronicles and all said something other story about MA...
<font size="4">Seems Maham is right fully alive in show now..!!!!.</font>

I am procuring more docs to give weight to my theory...! Will post then...
I was waiting someone to say something on this issue...

Thnx ,,,




Oh no... Maham stays longer! nahi.. 😭
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Posted: 11 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: Cleo12345



Thanks for the Info! Very interesting.
I just sent you a PM with a query
Reposting here as well in case someone else has more info


Did Akbar really have dyslexia?
...My gut feeling is that he was illiterate but not dyslexic...Illiteracy
is a choice while dyslexia is a neurological disorder classified as a 'learning disability' .However I need more info before I can rule it out. if you get a chance please read my last 3 posts on myviewprem's thread Jalal-poor judge of character. Did you come across anything( evidence wise) to suggest that he may have a neurological disorder.
By evidence I mean..
Dyslexia usually occurs with other emotional and learning problems
Patients may/may not have the following
Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder or ADHD..poor attention span, restlessness.
may have poor memory
depression
anxiety
panic disorder
poor self esteem
withdrawan, loner, inhibited
Dyscalculia: poor maths skills
Dyspraxia- poor control on movements
dysphasia: difficulty in expressing and comprehending spoken words
Autism

Akbar probably had none of the above. except maybe the loner part...Am I missing something? Did anyone mention dyslexia before the release of Tare Zameen par? i think that he was a very smart guy...excelled at a lot things... so people try to find a reason to explain why he didnt/couldnt learn to read and write. They attribute it to a disorder... Maybe he was just a normal guy who didn't like studying( I personally know a lot of them.😊)... I am not a 100% convinced about this theory...Though he didn't sleep much ...3-4 hrs a day...can happen with ADHD spectrum...but that alone is not enough... I too dont sleep more than 4-5hrs either and I dont hv not of the above diagnosis...probably just a normal variance for him too.



Hi,
I saw your PM.
But again before posting some thing as big as saying Akbar to be a dyslexic, is risky.
Please wait. Collecting some evidences on this.😊
I also won't say him a total dyslexic.
BTW, your @bold is praiseworthy.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek



agree...diksha...😊
She appeared alive after 1562 as well...Docs gives this info also...!!!!!!!!!!!!






i know , Abhay... actually, major books used for Akbar's history r Akbarnama and Aine Akbari.. but the thing is both r written by Abul Fazl... so many facts in both books r same... but some books in English say that after Adham's death, she became ill and so she was shifted out of agra to some unknown place.. ppl thought she died, and Akbar even built a tomb in her memory... but nobody ever saw her dead body... but one thing, after this incidence , it's said that Akbar used to take his decisions himself ... nobody could ever influence him later...

is this right?
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Posted: 11 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: history_geek



Hi,
I saw your PM.
But again before posting some thing as big as saying Akbar to be a dyslexic, is risky.
Please wait. Collecting some evidences on this.😊
I also won't say him a total dyslexic.
BTW, your @bold is praiseworthy.



even i read he was partially dyslexic,if not completely... but he was very sharp.. once told or read to him, and he never forgot.. only he could never learn to read or write..
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Posted: 11 years ago
#47
RES

i am very bad with dates but i will try add it with refrences
abhay have you check MUZ wiki page they edited it 😆 just want to ask have you put your share in the editing because i tired many time but not successeded 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweet_diksha



i know , Abhay... actually, major books used for Akbar's history r Akbarnama and Aine Akbari.. but the thing is both r written by Abul Fazl... so many facts in both books r same... but some books in English say that after Adham's death, she became ill and so she was shifted out of agra to some unknown place.. ppl thought she died, and Akbar even built a tomb in her memory... but nobody ever saw her dead body... but one thing, after this incidence , it's said that Akbar used to take his decisions himself ... nobody could ever influence him later...

is this right?



u know, these wiki pages r changing some facts. but right now i can't even go to my UNi Library and check the books.. have to stay at home for full week... but next week i m planning to visit the library...

btw, do u know the name of the book written by Badayuni?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweet_diksha



i know , Abhay... actually, major books used for Akbar's history r Akbarnama and Aine Akbari.. but the thing is both r written by Abul Fazl... so many facts in both books r same... but some books in English say that after Adham's death, she became ill and so she was shifted out of agra to some unknown place.. ppl thought she died, and Akbar even built a tomb in her memory... but nobody ever saw her dead body... but one thing, after this incidence , it's said that Akbar used to take his decisions himself ... nobody could ever influence him later...

is this right?



I agree with you. People read Akbarnama and ain-e-Akbari only. As they are available easily.
Also, how can anyone trace Akbar's history in one single book..?..
But, Abul Fazl has very nicely😉 skipped certain issues from the book. Or they were removed?😕
(see mughal chronicles are contradicting each other here..😉...this is ONE example..i found many..!..)

But, i did not read that no one saw her dead body..😕😕..(did i miss something.?.)
Infact, Akbar went some distance with her corpse, after her death, to some distance..
yes, he built a tomb for her and her son in Delhi..😊

You are right, that after her death, after sometime he freed himself from all those people. and took his decisions without their influence...
Edited by history_geek - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#50

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha



u know, these wiki pages r changing some facts. but right now i can't even go to my UNi Library and check the books.. have to stay at home for full week... but next week i m planning to visit the library...

btw, do u know the name of the book written by Badayuni?



Muntakhab-ut-Tawarikh
If possible read original one..😊

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