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Posted: 11 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

so very rightly said , Mansi... waste of time episode... I can't even call it filler.. there was nothing to fill anything...

and still there were so many things to say...

So now AK is planning more and more... and well, his Oh so clever mother doesn't even doubt abt anything.. neither her son plotting against Jallad nor abt the ever precious gift she herself presented to the to be Gr8 Shehenshah... Both MA and AK r now worth nothing to say about...

same goes with Ruku... the so-called ruler of shehenshah's brain , time and again proves herself to be brainless.. (what else to expect from Jallad , then?) her insecurity has reached to heights , anybody or anything can shake her to core now... and here is Jo, and well even if Ruku is not accepting openly, she knows Jo's worth and and that Jo's values r enough to change the devil into human... and so no doubt her insecurity abt Jallad is increasing every second... but yes, somewhere she trusts Jallad's mere words, and controls herself and is again back to her dreamland...

Jo yest surprised me with her calmness... she openly showed Jallad that she was hurt with his decision abt changing her room and when he takes her back to her room she goes with him without a single word, listens everything that goes btw Jallad and Ruku silently, even when he says those final parting words , she is sad but not shocked at his words abt never entering in her room again... why? does it means she too has taken final decision to finish her life to save him, knowing it's the only way left now? Yest Jo was , way to calm... while watching that scene i felt there is some fulfillness in her. that she knows nobody trusts her, not even him, no support for her, and so has she planned her final and dignified exit from his life? and if that's the case, no doubt his words make her upset but doesn't shatter her like before.. coz may be she knows, his
wedding day will be her last day in his life and so there will be no way for him to say her face again... and so she is ready all the way to prove his words right in her own way...the way he always keeps saying that he can't love anybody, and even yest when he said she holds no importance in his life, she didn't say a word as if she is accepting that she will never get the love from him she wants and she doesn't want so called importance without love... and so she meets his eyes calmly... only if he knew behind her calmness there is the strength that has made her take the ultimate decision of her life : that she can live whith letting her love (Jalal) die or she can give her love a chance to live by sacrificing her own life... and so though she is upset that she has hurt him and he now hates her (atleast he says so, even if it's not true), she is not shattered by his words, coz in her heart she has that contentment of her decision ... (is it more phylosophical? can't help... Jo's stance yest, after he takes her back to room and after his final words, was this way, i felt to be)

only if she knows , when she finally will take that drastic step, her love won't be the one to give up so easily... only if she knows , he too is the other side of the coin like she is one... only if she knows he is hurting her coz he himself is fighting the battle with that unknown feeling towards her, which he is not ready to accept with the fear of one more rejection from her...

both r ready to hurt eachother now to the point of breaking the other to the last thread... and the fact that it will be Jalal who will break first when Jo will faint due to poison... following with the uncertain emptiness he is about to face seeing her unconcious in his arms... the feeling that it was him who drove her to take that step... the guilt and defeat he is about to face, will be breaking him , shattering him to core only to give him the ultimate strength to fight for his love, before she goes away forever...and I hope Jalal is ready to face that...coz Jo has already reached there ...


guys, i had said twi days back, that the lowest point is yet to come... for me it was yest , with Jallad saying those dreadful words and Jo maintaining her dignity and calmness has drawn the line, and now from there it's a journey for both of them to new horizon ...whether the marriage
happens or not, the journey still will continue...

Diksha, hats off to you for narrating their mindset so beautifully. Yes, Jo had that final composure on her face which said a lot about her final decision. That was the reason she didn't had those tears in her hers when h uttered those words to her. He was a bit optimistic when he took her back to her room and talked Ruqu even by cutting Maham's words about his promse Jodha on keeping her religion and her place in Agra etc. But the moment he told Ruqu that she is in her level to fight (Begum) her and evict her which will lower Ruqu's dignity, she felt that ting of hurt and when she assured Ruqu that he will never ever step into that room, she realised that she is no part of his life. It was as good as died for him. That was te exact reason, she didn't say anything even when he said those words, as she knew there was no point in leadiung a life of dead woman.
Though reluctant, she will do all the rasam's of Begum, since that may be the last time (as per her psycological status) and will dedicate her 100% attention just on Ben to save Jalal before leaving him for ever.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: history_geek

Mansi..

Ongoing tracks do have reality. Found something dramatic.
I m finding quite relieved i did not predict anything till now.
Was about to post yesterday but lost all info since the site was down. Will type again. Again will take time.

Btw, nice analysis. I m signing out. Will not be able to reply.

Also Ruqs character portrayal is justified. She is going to remain the same. Its correct historically. She will be after power only..

M going to be horribly busy. Just wanted to share something in short.

Yes Abhay I do get the point that overall the tracks are based on their research. But for example was this evacuation of Jodha from her room shown in history? There is a lot of fictional stuff between the lines of history. All I am saying "OK do the fiction and history simultaneously. Only thing keep the consistency of characters, the overall logic, the believability and the brisk pace of the serial". If these four things are not there, even the best of history or fiction is becoming difficult to digest!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: -ambrosia-

Jalal ne kuch zyada hi bol diya kal hate him agar jodha mar bhi rahi hogi to bhi nahi really jalal ..

To main bhi dekhugi jab jodha tumhare liye poison pee legi tab kya karogey apni baat par baney rehna ..
Tum us audha ka paudha or benz naagin ke hi layak ho

Jalal will now see Jodha really at death's door. let's see which direction he keeps his four eyes in!😕
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Posted: 11 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: neeshaa16

Hi Mansi,

I always wonder how do you have the patience to write analysis for these crap episodes! Wonderful post as always. But These episodes are making me feel so low that I am loosing all the positivity about the show. I wonder whether Bens exit will be shown today at all. or may be they will still drag the mehendi session today and carry on for the next week.. As you said the CVS are fooling us and we get fooled easily.. What crap ... so much drama but no substance... started to hate Ruks character as well now.. Can't tolerate her Audha..lectures... How I would love Jodha saying..Shehenshah ke pran sankat mein haai aur aapko apne Audhe ki padii haain...Chee!!!!!!


Neesha, in one word you have summed up this whole track ... "Chee!!!!"😆😆😆😆😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: Parijatrocks

nice analysis dear...

i was like wow the moment Jalal got her back the Hojra...my face lit with happiness... soon when he said she not important to him, and he hates herand wont look at her death bed too,,,,

was like what the hell... but its for the dramatic effect and rona dhona of guilty jalal after the poison effect...than i was okie...

if i dint knew the history and not seen the promo ...than i would have not liked this act of jalal ...

but turning him jallad before his heart melt was necessary for trps

For how many weeks does he have to be a jallad before he is turned into a heart-melted man? If you can tell me that, I will try to control myself!😕
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Posted: 11 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: deejagi

Diksha, hats off to you for narrating their mindset so beautifully. Yes, Jo had that final composure on her face which said a lot about her final decision. That was the reason she didn't had those tears in her hers when h uttered those words to her. He was a bit optimistic when he took her back to her room and talked Ruqu even by cutting Maham's words about his promse Jodha on keeping her religion and her place in Agra etc. But the moment he told Ruqu that she is in her level to fight (Begum) her and evict her which will lower Ruqu's dignity, she felt that ting of hurt and when she assured Ruqu that he will never ever step into that room, she realised that she is no part of his life. It was as good as died for him. That was te exact reason, she didn't say anything even when he said those words, as she knew there was no point in leadiung a life of dead woman.

Though reluctant, she will do all the rasam's of Begum, since that may be the last time (as per her psycological status) and will dedicate her 100% attention just on Ben to save Jalal before leaving him for ever.



very well said...his words gave her the courage to take that drastic step to save jallas life

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Posted: 11 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: abhi786

Mansi, Adham plan is good to eliminate both BEN & Abul mali, good to see he didn't include MA also... MA deserves AK as a child...

Ruqu-Jdha-Jalaal scene is good... Jalaal doesn't want to humiliate or show jodha down & he very well knows how to calm ruqu by telling her auda is higher than jodha's and by doing this to jodha, she is only lowering herself..

In anger he said he will not come into this hojra again not even if her eyes are closed ( dead)... How harsh her words are and he is going to see that to be going to truth... JO is going to be on death bed fighting for her life...

Will still hang on with his ego or enter JO hojra to see her ? jalaal is going to repent that his words are coming to truth...

I think that moment he will forget everything & will enter Jo hojra & MA will surely instigate Ruqu that day also Jalal did only to save Jodha & give her hojra back... Now he forget all words and enters to JO hojra ?

Now Jalaal somehow calmed Ruqu don, but Ruqu will remember all this words and Jalaal behaviour and now she is not believe jalaal words nor listen to him..

I think JO deliberately fall & messes BEN mehandi...So ruqu is admiring BEN words...

BEN is laughing she is making fool of Ruqu & MA...



Why can't he be frank and open and honest with Ruq about Jodha? Des he fear Ruq's tantrums that he has to keep bluffing that her audha is hurt by her actions and does h he have to say "I am doing this only for Hamida" or "If you do this to Jodha your audha will be spoilt" etc. Can he not tell RUq straight that she can have her Khas begum status, but she cannot behave indecently to his other women?😕
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Posted: 11 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: deejagi

Diksha, hats off to you for narrating their mindset so beautifully. Yes, Jo had that final composure on her face which said a lot about her final decision. That was the reason she didn't had those tears in her hers when h uttered those words to her. He was a bit optimistic when he took her back to her room and talked Ruqu even by cutting Maham's words about his promse Jodha on keeping her religion and her place in Agra etc. But the moment he told Ruqu that she is in her level to fight (Begum) her and evict her which will lower Ruqu's dignity, she felt that ting of hurt and when she assured Ruqu that he will never ever step into that room, she realised that she is no part of his life. It was as good as died for him. That was te exact reason, she didn't say anything even when he said those words, as she knew there was no point in leadiung a life of dead woman.

Though reluctant, she will do all the rasam's of Begum, since that may be the last time (as per her psycological status) and will dedicate her 100% attention just on Ben to save Jalal before leaving him for ever.



Diksha & deejagi

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
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Posted: 11 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: skanda12

That is exactly why he is going to eat his words when Jodha falls at the door of near-death after consuming the poison. As we said yesterday - all of us - they are doing all the opposite things in these episodes so that there will be maximum melodramatic effect when Jodha saves Jalal.


He should slap himself atleast 10 times for saying such crap... 😡 He's such a fool...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#50

Originally posted by: ann2012

At least, the faltoo episode marks the end of Ben's nicer days. The track might be over by next week. Even Meghna Naidu has bid adieu to JA via tweets. I am happy this farce is over.


The plot was nice: an assasin in Akbar's harem sent by an enemy. It could have been far better if the execution was good. JA sorely needs consistently good direction

See MP, now that show has decent direction.

The track looks like getting over for sure, but I support Ela's view that if the characters are butchered, even later after this track there will be a bad feeling about these characters in our hearts. We will lose respect for them and won't ever again see them in that best light as they were at the start of the show. Somehow, it leaves a scar on us!

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