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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: skanda12

Friends, I just dunno what to say. I have never before seen such an elaborate kheecho-fying of story tracks to fill day after day with faltoo episodes that are going nowhere!

Yesterday's episode was again one such 30-minute total time waste. I really am terribly demotivated to write on this one, so please forgive me if my update is not even half-decent. But here are the few highlights:

Adham's dialogue of assassination extends to ben as well as Abul Mali

Just in case we all thought that Adham (as per previous day) was only in a mood to kill Abul Mali, we came to know that he also wants to finish off Ben ... all this after she finishes of Jalal. As Jyoti remarked yesterday, all this was said to his henchmen in the middle of the garden, where curiously, when he talks no is there to eavesdrop, but when other more important characters talk there is always someone hovering to overhear! Strange garden. Anyway Adham fobbed off Maham saying he was discussing political affairs at Malwa.

In that case, should Maham not have become extremely suspicious that he is doing "some work" rather than idling time?

Jalal and Atga are still suspicious about Ben and her secrets?

Jalal was seen first staring at the arrow from Jodha's bow and thinking hard about it. Soon Atga walked in with a jewel box that he had pinched from Ben's room, and it was a locked secret box from the looks of it. They prised open the lock only to find motis inside the box. Jalal explained to all of us that despite his disbelief of Jodha he thought there would be merit in continuing to check out Ben! (So much for your great anti-Jodha pronouncements, my dear boy, obviously you are affected by what Jodha has been saying!)

Anyway, they decided to return the box after a fruitless search. Meanwhile however, Ben finding the box missing, thought it must have been Jodha the thief who took it! She told Zakira, the motis in the box all hide zeher!
So do we take it that Jalal was totally fooled, and that he did just a cursory examination of the box and contents and let slip something important because he and his men did a half-serious job?
He was concerned enough to pinch the box and examine it, but not serious enough to suspect all that was in it for zeher, knowing that Jodha had called Ben a vishkanya?

Ruq-Jalal-Jodha - and how the room vacating tamasha was righted

Ruq was seen with a bunch of bandhis supervising the evacuation of Jodha's room. Jodha was holding her Kanha but pleading with Ruq not to artificially bhujao the diya in the room (for that is a serious apshagun). She said it was OK only if the diya went off by itself but it should never be forcibly bhujao-ed!

Ruq deliberately decided to ignore that plea and shifted the diya elsewhere (but I suspect she too had a tinge of fear about shutting off the lamp so she did not actually do it!).
Meanwhile Jodha was seen outside her room in the garden surrounded by her baggage when Jalal came there and started with his sarcasm "Are you off to Amer now in your jealousy over Ben?". Jodha said simply "No, I've been evicted from my room by Ruq so that Ben can occupy it. That's all OK, I'm prepared to move out. But I just have the one plea not to put off that diya ..."
Jalal was seemingly concerned and furious, but he hid it well. He marched Jodha back into the room and accosted Ruq and said "I know the harem is your prerogative, and I cannot interfere, and even Maham here seems to reinforce that to me. But as regards Jodha being here, as of today this room belongs to me and not to the harem, and I can choose to let Jodha continue here. This room is no longer under your power, its mine." With that he replaced the diya also in its original posiition carefully.
But here then comes the twist! After having done the right thing by Jodha (no doubt because he cares for her) the conflicting angry feelings on Jodha surfaced in Jalal again and he added to Ruq "Your audha which you care so much about is lessened and not increased when you try to shift Jodha. It shows you are giving too much importance to someone who is not so important. Even though I have given her this room, but I am never going to visit here, nor see her face, even if she were dying." And with that he left the room.
Ruq fired Maham for giving such a poor room-shifting and audha-reducing idea! And Jodha was left telling Moti, "I have the room but I also have Jalal's hurts!".
Now in all this three clear things were visible in Jalal: One, he cared enough for Jodha inside his heart to want her not to shift and to value her diya. Two, his anger on the other hand made his spit fire at Jodha via some very insulting parting advice to Ruq to ignore Jodha. Three, it also showed me that he is somewhere afraid perhaps of angering Ruq? He seems always ready to give her some teda excuse to cool down (even at the cost of Jodha's dignity). So why is he so afraid of Ruq?
As for Ruq how much more stupid can a girl get? Yesterday Maham says "Jodha made you apply her lep as a servant" and she believed that twist. Today Jalal says "By shifting Jodha you lessen your audha" and she believed it. If she's that stupid, why does Jalal fear angering her? He should be forthright and ruthless, shouldn't he? If he is forceful with her, she would simmer down faster and more permanently, I feel, instead of jumping up and down every few days!

At the mehndi ceremony, Jodha falls on Ben and messes her up!

At the evening mehndi, there is first an elaborate gifting ceremony where Hamida names some of the key women who will participate and Jodha is one of them. One by one they touch the mehndi bowl before its application and give some of their gifts to the bride-to-be.

A rather silly conversation takes place between Ruq and Ben which smacks of a "mutual admiration society". Ben thankfully tells Ruq she will always hold her high in rank and accord her all the prestige due to her. Ruq tells Salima, that is how the haremites need to be. They need to be like Ben and not like some others (like Jodha?) who don't know their due place in the harem hierarchy!
Ruq derisively says "Even a bandhi knows who is what in this Palace, unlike some so-called begums". Meanwhile Jodha whose turn it is to appply mehndi comes forward reluctantly and promptly trips and falls on Ben messing up the mehndi already on her hands. Maham holds her ears in consternation annd declares it all to be an apshagun! With that the idiotic episode thank fully ends!
Folks, I still have my doubts if that was just an accidental fall or a deliberate ploy by Jodha to give ben a sanket!

The precap bhavishyavani brings another lollypop for impatient viewers!

As expected, whenever there is a deliberate kheecho-fying of the track, the viewers (especially the TRP aunties) are expected to get restive and impatient! So in typical style, the Creatives usually supply lollypops to keep the audience quiet for a few more episodes.

Thus yesterday we got another bhavishyavani lollypop to savour. A lady astrologer with parrot astrology apparatus said her parrot had picked a bad card for Ben - that she would hardly be the Shahenshah's bride even for a moment! All were shocked ...
... but none of us in the audience were. We've known that Ben would not go through with this shaadi; we've known Jodha will save Jalal; we've know all Jodha's eroded prestige, trashed by Jalal and Ruq and all and sundry, will be restored; we've known Ben will flee on a horse somewhere ... we've known, we've known, we've known all this for so long ... so why did we need this parrot business?
Creatives, you showed all the characters as brainless, and we kept quiet. You showed yourselves as brainless, and we kept quiet for that too. But now that you want to show us that we audiences too are brainless, we can't stand by watching.
There is a limit to which we take insults on our intelligence, (even if its your pastime to include insults between the characters)!
We've had enough, and many have left this serial in disgust. Please stay warned. The few of us left watching this serial do not have bottomless stores of tolerance to put up with week after week of crap!
If you won't draw the line, we soon will!


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well said mansi...we r to be blamed for putting up with all these 🥱. But m hurt for another thing..this forum which i used to love so much still love it has divided..now its only jodha forum , jalal forum sometimes...
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: ginco

Hello My dear ladies ,

Mansi , you are toh my awesome friend and i would like to reward you with "PATIENCE QUEEN : post for all episodes " award .

Mansi you son't realize your importance , agar tum na hoti toh hum sab JA ke mare roj kaise ikathe hokar apne dukh baante ... seriously love you for all your effort GBY ..

Ela , you too are so very present here , i read your post more than i tlk to my hubby and family ...thanks yaar ...

Jaya and Sweet dikha :- WOW , you guys took the words out of my mouth and explained that stillness jo showed after moti brought it to surface tht she did not have jalal's apnapan ... it was as if the words were sinking into her and driving a point home that she would rather prove herself and make an exit from his life rather than shout or even ask for his love.

I was so moved by tht one stance yesterday and at tht moment made me feel for both of them , love is nothing without a few mistakes to be remembered over a life time for me and tht moment things really came to surface .

As far as the episode goes , i really wanted to see an end to it today but i guess tht is not in the line , i so wish tht it ends on monday , i really don't have patience to survive till Wednesday mansi... ...


As far as the party goes , iam ready to coem over to india and host a weekend party for you guys if this track end on monday , all you would have to do is just drop over , stay at my home and have a breakfast ,lunch and pajama night party ...


Kashi


Thank you Kashi for the mouth watering offer but Cvs are in favour of us. They will not make either travel all the way to India just to host a party to us (national waste hai yaar) by boycotting them. So please don't expect the end of this track by monday.
Abul Mali is yet to use his dagger (I really don't understand teh safety measure Atga Khan, Maham & Ruqaiya are claiming take for Jalal's safety. How on the earth AM produced that dagger immediately after Jalal's sainiks went away? HOw on the earth they have left a single person to man the most criminal Shareef day & night, I mean 24 x 7, he was the only soldier who is guarding that jail. What happened to te tight secutity of Ruqu to keep eyes even on insiders?????????, if they were really working, how did Jodha reached Shareef's cell?

Ok, will write more tomorrow. feeling bored, will do something fruitfull.
Good night.
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Posted: 12 years ago
We are at the end of the road now...and can start dreaming about Akdha's romance after Ben's exit. Sabre ka phal meetha hota hai na...we are going to be amply rewarded.😊
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: sunshine_sun


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well said mansi...we r to be blamed for putting up with all these 🥱. But m hurt for another thing..this forum which i used to love so much still love it has divided..now its only jodha forum , jalal forum sometimes...


At least you wont find that division in this thread. So lets us not worry too much, People will realize their mistakes. After all this is Jodha Akbar forum and we enjoy as well as criticize the characters when they do some mistakes since we have that apnapan for this show. So let us enjoy it without making our taste buds bitter. We all know that the show is impared without both. So let us take the criticism (though it goes too far sometimes) as a positive side and forget.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: jojal

We are at the end of the road now...and can start dreaming about Akdha's romance after Ben's exit. Sabre ka phal meetha hota hai na...we are going to be amply rewarded.😊


You can start it now. start dreaming about the various ways in which Jalal takes care of his Begum😉 you have an entire weekend with you to do so😆
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Abie10

Lol, am in for the party.😆 Its been so long since anyone in the forum talked about SR. That's the power of Vishkanya.😆


Let Jodha Begum recover from the vishprashan. once she is totally out of vish and the Hakim assure Jalal that she is no more vishkanya ( atrue kanya we know😉) Jalal can think of SR. but we in forum can start our fantasy from now on😆
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: deejagi


At least you wont find that division in this thread. So lets us not worry too much, People will realize their mistakes. After all this is Jodha Akbar forum and we enjoy as well as criticize the characters when they do some mistakes since we have that apnapan for this show. So let us enjoy it without making our taste buds bitter. We all know that the show is impared without both. So let us take the criticism (though it goes too far sometimes) as a positive side and forget.


love u for such a good thot...yup we r not divided here atleast 😳
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: skanda12

Would we swallow this kind of irrationality in a man who was so astute as to rule the whole of Hindustan? Can he have been less than diplomatic to achieve such a feat? Then how are we to swallow that he is smart with everyone else, except Jodha? The Creatives want us to think that he is so much in love with her inside his heart that his words are blurting out without any self-control? I find that very strange in an "astute king" of nearly three-fourths of Hindustan!



I think you misunderstood my point. My fault, because i wrote only a fraction of my thoughts on this whole issue of wishing her death...I am not justifying his behavior...I am human...nor am I debating the fact that the CVs are taking us for granted. If you get a chance to read my recent post 'History, psychology and politics' you will know exactly how I feel about some of these issues.
I like doing psychoanalysis of historical characters and any form of abberant, strange, irrational or even borderline psychotic behavior in people who are otherwise considered 'normal' intrigues me...Probably because it is something related to what I do for a living... I love dissecting Mahamanga's character( the screen MA)... She is really interesting...she is not an someone we can catagorize as a psychopathic personality...but she does show glimpses of such behavior...killing fetuses of a loved one is an example I can think of right now... On the other hand she is shown to be very loving and loyal towards certain characters. To have this whole spectrum of personality traits in one person is not very commonly seen. I'll make a seperate post on her. Lets talk about Jalal here...screen Jalal...In the last few episodes he is almost behaving in a bipolar fashion...the underlying anger towards Jodha is there. But there are peaks and valleys in expression of emotions...just before the Teerandaazi episode( post shivani) he was being aloof but relatively civil... Few outbursts here and there...which is of course unaccepatable but not entirely unexpected from people with such personalities...Type A, ambitious, successful and driven...most common way of expression of anger by such people is condescending behaviour towards the 'victim'. Aloofness is a sign of emotional attachment to the person because this is out of character for them( their natural instinct is give ' active' form of punishment) ... But going to the extent of actually cursing her...is also out of character...believe it or not...it is a sign of extreme frustration and helplessness...and what was the immediate cause of this sudden escalation of emotions... His already bruised ego got one more blow...when I rewatched some of those scenes, he did not have any softness in his eyes while communicating with Jodha after the boat incident. The look had some disgust at times. RT is such a good actor...I have to mention it here. In retrospect his taunt about 'dikhawa' was meant for Jodha not Rukkiya. When I comment on posts I like, I usually keep it lighthearted and not bore people with my psychiatry lectures..but I don't mind going Into depth if someone is interested...So I hope I did a better job this time...I am not justifying his behavior...I am trying to understand it...finally .thanks for the wonderful analysis you do...your posts are very balanced.

Edited by Cleo12345 - 12 years ago

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