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Posted: 11 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: neeshaa16

Hi Mansi,

I always wonder how do you have the patience to write analysis for these crap episodes! Wonderful post as always. But These episodes are making me feel so low that I am loosing all the positivity about the show. I wonder whether Bens exit will be shown today at all. or may be they will still drag the mehendi session today and carry on for the next week.. As you said the CVS are fooling us and we get fooled easily.. What crap ... so much drama but no substance... started to hate Ruks character as well now.. Can't tolerate her Audha..lectures... How I would love Jodha saying..Shehenshah ke pran sankat mein haai aur aapko apne Audhe ki padii haain...Chee!!!!!!




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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: deejagi

Despite all the negativity, whatever little positivity they tried to show was engulped without notice. They thried to make us believe that Jalal to certain extent believed Jodha's words about Ben being the katra for his life and asked Atga khan many times in mum, and then openly to check Ben's room for any proof that she is a culprit. This looked as good as asked some one to ride all the way to Malwa to check whether Adham was there in MAlwa during Moti Bai case. Jalal being the emperor of Hindustan and Atga Khan being his chief security / defense officer (home minister) did not even realized that the culprit will erase all the evidence the moment Jodha doubted her. WE REALLY NEED TO FEEL PROUD FOR THIS KING & HIS MINISTER.

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Yes it is true that Akand diya should not be moved or put off. But when you are moving your God, and why not move the Diya as well along with him and redo the pratistapana???????? Why do you want to leave it in aplce where the occupant might ridicule that and who might not respect that. Wow yet again Jalal got a chance to taunt her of being jealous and then turned out like a kid who had swallowed the entired Tirupati Laddu at once when he got to know the reality? His defense was good to keep both Ruqu and Maham mum but the parting words were too bad to even spell. Not good for an Emperor. He is no common man to swear that I will not see your face even when you die but normally it will be said that don't come and see even my dead body right?????? But Cvs are hell bent to give some dialogues to Jalal and without any difficulty, he is reciting them. " I will not even enter this room ever in my life, even if you close your eyes permanently". Great Shehenshah, but thanks the Cvs didn't made him tell that "if he does so, either he cut his legs / tongue or pull out his eyes etc. If so, he would have been impaired and would have made it easy for Adham or Abul Mali or Shareef to claim the throne.

Challo accha, Our begum realized the severity of his words and understood that her husband will not even pay her homage if she dies inside her Room. How can a Rajvanshi die like that and her husband not fill her mang during her last journey, so she remembered the "Swargarohana Parva" of Mahabharat and presumed the role of Bheem. So in the open angan (sorry marriage matap), she grabbed the Sevaiya bowl to committed suicide (though for sure will be brought alive by Jalal & Co) so that Jalal can see her and shed some tears for her loyalty (if not for love) without breaking his vows of not entering your room. There in Mahabharat, since Bheem realized that his elder brother Yudhistir will not turn back and see his dead brother (he didn't see either Arjun, Nakul, Saha dev or Draupadi), when his turn came, he made a long jump ahead of Yudhister and died so that Yudistir could pay his last rites. Great work Jodha Begum, now the entire Agra will pay you respect and pray for your safety and life. keep it up.
CVs all the best. NOw how will you realate Jalal to Savithri who faught with Yama for the life of her husband and make him get back his wife's life? Anyway I am really started enjoying this jolly ride, we are made to remember all those historical & mythological stories.
OK, Jalal was an emperor who was always guided by his own ideas and never believed he might go wrong. He was cruel, he was short tempered and used to avenge his enemy cruelly. BUt why are you hell bent show him use the cruel words, let it be action, we don't mind but please don't make him speak some unpardenable words and spoil his status. Physical injury can be forgotten (get over) but injury to ons's soul is hard to erase and forget, even for person who caused the damage.

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Posted: 11 years ago
#33
I was thinking exactly the same thing. Do these people think the audience is made up of lunatics? There are so many inconsistencies. Do they think we will not notice. The first one was that Ben jumped into a lake earlier to make Jodha jealous and Jalal fished her out and both went their merry way. Why did the water not get poisoned then?? And which idiot told Jalal that venomous water snakes liked to live in wells? First of all, water snakes are usually not poisonous and second, venomous ones (cottonmouths, for eg) usually like swampy water. So I figure the zahreela snakes that Adham pretended to find jumped into Jalal's wells to commit suicide, maybe from watching these idiotic episodes of JA?? QUOTE

good observationt!!! My take on the well poisoning issue
I've been thinking about the well poisoning factor too...I did not get a chance to watch that episode so missed the maar-peet scene of our dear vishkanya...Did she have any open wounds? in that case her venomous blood may have gotten mixed with the water in the well...Also, we have been told that her blood and saliva has venom...what about other bodily secretions like urine etc...he had every right to be scared after jumping into the well...who knows what other bodily secretions got mixed with the well water.
regarding other snakes, I dont think anyone in Jalal/Atgah/CVs bureau of investigations is a trained ophiologist or herpertologist. So let us forgive them😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: JALK2000

I was thinking exactly the same thing. Do these people think the audience is made up of lunatics? There are so many inconsistencies. Do they think we will not notice. The first one was that Ben jumped into a lake earlier to make Jodha jealous and Jalal fished her out and both went their merry way. Why did the water not get poisoned then?? And which idiot told Jalal that venomous water snakes liked to live in wells? First of all, water snakes are usually not poisonous and second, venomous ones (cottonmouths, for eg) usually like swampy water. So I figure the zahreela snakes that Adham pretended to find jumped into Jalal's wells to commit suicide, maybe from watching these idiotic episodes of JA??

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I also got a glimpse of today's (??) epi where Ben supposedly tries to kill Jalal by getting him to drink the same cup as her as part of teh marriage rites, maybe?? What kind of nut-job will try to kill an emperor in the midst of a thousand people who are all watching them both keenly? Specially after Jodha has just made allegations about her Vishkanya' status?? Won't she just be proving that she is indeed one if Jalal drops dead after taking one sip? How on earth did she expect to coolly walk away after the murder and marry her love Abul Mali who, by the way, is in jail??

I think (if this is not again a dream!!!) that maybe since he will drink/eat the sevayya, they will be slow to take effect, like Zakira. Maybe she hopes to make her escape to jail & run away with Abul Mali wtth the help of that map or something

OK, now that I have that out of my system, let me get on to more important things. Thanks, all of you, for doing such a wonderful job with the written updates. I miss the episodes most days and these are all that keep me going. Thank you fro spending so much time and effort so that we can all keep updated with the serial.

I am just sick that with a cast of such talented actors, this story is getting nowhere. I think all of them whether it is Rajat or Paridhi or Ashwini Kalsekar, they could have done a brilliant job with any storyline and all they got was this? I am still watching this serial on and off bcos the actors deserve an audience since they have clearly put in their best effort. Hope there is a change for the better soon.



Last line in bold, EXACTLY and CVs are foolish in taking credit & saying Ben track is loved by viewers!!!😕

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Posted: 11 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: mandyg

mansi, the ben track indeed gave this show more trps! the highest ever! now u very well get the answer that why cvz show the characters brainless!..more brain and logic lesser the trps..more brainless and illogical tracks better the trps!

We guys on the forum cannot contest the power of these TRP audiences, they are in gazillions! But still even they would want some logic, na? 😕
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Posted: 11 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: Akanksha_33

Your analysis is great...

what disturbed me most was what Jalal said to Jodha about her death and he'll never visit her despite that... it was too much to hear and bear... for one push Jalal said too much and it wasn't like she slapped or anything... he stumbled and feel...

I was so glad that Jalal changed and suddenly all hopes came crashing... i feel terrible for Jodha and she should give him such a hard time after she survives the zeher... She shouldn't allow him to enter her room... she should keep a far distance from that man... I am really sad 😭 ...about what Jalal told Jodha and he's going to burn in his own agony for uttering such crap to her...

That is exactly why he is going to eat his words when Jodha falls at the door of near-death after consuming the poison. As we said yesterday - all of us - they are doing all the opposite things in these episodes so that there will be maximum melodramatic effect when Jodha saves Jalal.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: elasingh

Wonderful analysis for an extremely wonderful episode...

Ben must be laughing in her heart at Ruku and MA...at least I did...
I hate the way Jalal is always lowering Jo's dignity in front of Ruku but now I have become fed up and sincerely wish this marriage to take place...

One minute he helps Jodha recover her room and next minute he tells Ruq he will never see Jodhha's face even if she is at death's door! What are we to think?😕 Is he conflicted between love and anger, or is he trying to placate Ruq out of fear of Ruq's tantrums?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

so very rightly said , Mansi... waste of time episode... I can't even call it filler.. there was nothing to fill anything...

and still there were so many things to say...

So now AK is planning more and more... and well, his Oh so clever mother doesn't even doubt abt anything.. neither her son plotting against Jallad nor abt the ever precious gift she herself presented to the to be Gr8 Shehenshah... Both MA and AK r now worth nothing to say about...

same goes with Ruku... the so-called ruler of shehenshah's brain , time and again proves herself to be brainless.. (what else to expect from Jallad , then?) her insecurity has reached to heights , anybody or anything can shake her to core now... and here is Jo, and well even if Ruku is not accepting openly, she knows Jo's worth and and that Jo's values r enough to change the devil into human... and so no doubt her insecurity abt Jallad is increasing every second... but yes, somewhere she trusts Jallad's mere words, and controls herself and is again back to her dreamland...

Jo yest surprised me with her calmness... she openly showed Jallad that she was hurt with his decision abt changing her room and when he takes her back to her room she goes with him without a single word, listens everything that goes btw Jallad and Ruku silently, even when he says those final parting words , she is sad but not shocked at his words abt never entering in her room again... why? does it means she too has taken final decision to finish her life to save him, knowing it's the only way left now? Yest Jo was , way to calm... while watching that scene i felt there is some fulfillness in her. that she knows nobody trusts her, not even him, no support for her, and so has she planned her final and dignified exit from his life? and if that's the case, no doubt his words make her upset but doesn't shatter her like before.. coz may be she knows, his
wedding day will be her last day in his life and so there will be no way for him to say her face again... and so she is ready all the way to prove his words right in her own way...the way he always keeps saying that he can't love anybody, and even yest when he said she holds no importance in his life, she didn't say a word as if she is accepting that she will never get the love from him she wants and she doesn't want so called importance without love... and so she meets his eyes calmly... only if he knew behind her calmness there is the strength that has made her take the ultimate decision of her life : that she can live whith letting her love (Jalal) die or she can give her love a chance to live by sacrificing her own life... and so though she is upset that she has hurt him and he now hates her (atleast he says so, even if it's not true), she is not shattered by his words, coz in her heart she has that contentment of her decision ... (is it more phylosophical? can't help... Jo's stance yest, after he takes her back to room and after his final words, was this way, i felt to be)

only if she knows , when she finally will take that drastic step, her love won't be the one to give up so easily... only if she knows , he too is the other side of the coin like she is one... only if she knows he is hurting her coz he himself is fighting the battle with that unknown feeling towards her, which he is not ready to accept with the fear of one more rejection from her...

both r ready to hurt eachother now to the point of breaking the other to the last thread... and the fact that it will be Jalal who will break first when Jo will faint due to poison... following with the uncertain emptiness he is about to face seeing her unconcious in his arms... the feeling that it was him who drove her to take that step... the guilt and defeat he is about to face, will be breaking him , shattering him to core only to give him the ultimate strength to fight for his love, before she goes away forever...and I hope Jalal is ready to face that...coz Jo has already reached there ...


guys, i had said twi days back, that the lowest point is yet to come... for me it was yest , with Jallad saying those dreadful words and Jo maintaining her dignity and calmness has drawn the line, and now from there it's a journey for both of them to new horizon ...whether the marriage
happens or not, the journey still will continue...



Diksha - absolutely super post👍🏼
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Posted: 11 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: Donjas


The TRP now is the same it was before the beginning of the track. After all the degrading done of the main characters if there is still no increase in ratings then what was the use of it at all.
Obviously the Ben track has not worked, it was the momentum of the show before the track which carried it to new highs.

Whatever the TRPs some elementary logic has to be there. Some of the stuff in this current track are not juts illogical they are totally unbelievable! How does it help to watch TRPs?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: --Janvie--

Awesome Analysis👏Just Loved it Totally,especially The last part.❤️ 😳 ❤️
The CV's think viewers are some bunch of fools,But What I don't understand is Why stretching it so much with Bakwaas?!!!!!No one wanna watch a parrot speaking of a Vishkanya ka future!!!!Bloody Sh*t😡

See they are hoping the bhavishyavanis will keep us all waiting for another few episodes, till ben track ends. Otherwise where is the need for this parrot after the Salim Chisti prophecy?
Its because they also know they are stretching out this track, so once in every three for four episodes there will be one bhavishyavani!

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