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Posted: 11 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: MaddyO



Jalal GETS RUKAYYA & HE SHOULD CONTINUE TO "GET" ONLY HER


TRUE TRUE, HE ONLY UNDERSTANDS HER ANYWAYS... 😡
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Posted: 11 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: skanda12

Yes Abhay I do get the point that overall the tracks are based on their research. But for example was this evacuation of Jodha from her room shown in history? There is a lot of fictional stuff between the lines of history. All I am saying "OK do the fiction and history simultaneously. Only thing keep the consistency of characters, the overall logic, the believability and the brisk pace of the serial". If these four things are not there, even the best of history or fiction is becoming difficult to digest!

Mansi, for all I care, the evacuation might be there in history but the way of execution was bad and the words used were of bad taste even if it is to create sympathy dramatic effect when Jodha falls unconcious and the words kepp ringing repeatedly in Jalal's ears. and the lover boy & ego hurt jallad come face to face to crowd the mourning Jalal is too much...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#63

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

so very rightly said , Mansi... waste of time episode... I can't even call it filler.. there was nothing to fill anything...

and still there were so many things to say...

So now AK is planning more and more... and well, his Oh so clever mother doesn't even doubt abt anything.. neither her son plotting against Jallad nor abt the ever precious gift she herself presented to the to be Gr8 Shehenshah... Both MA and AK r now worth nothing to say about...

same goes with Ruku... the so-called ruler of shehenshah's brain , time and again proves herself to be brainless.. (what else to expect from Jallad , then?) her insecurity has reached to heights , anybody or anything can shake her to core now... and here is Jo, and well even if Ruku is not accepting openly, she knows Jo's worth and and that Jo's values r enough to change the devil into human... and so no doubt her insecurity abt Jallad is increasing every second... but yes, somewhere she trusts Jallad's mere words, and controls herself and is again back to her dreamland...

Jo yest surprised me with her calmness... she openly showed Jallad that she was hurt with his decision abt changing her room and when he takes her back to her room she goes with him without a single word, listens everything that goes btw Jallad and Ruku silently, even when he says those final parting words , she is sad but not shocked at his words abt never entering in her room again... why? does it means she too has taken final decision to finish her life to save him, knowing it's the only way left now? Yest Jo was , way to calm... while watching that scene i felt there is some fulfillness in her. that she knows nobody trusts her, not even him, no support for her, and so has she planned her final and dignified exit from his life? and if that's the case, no doubt his words make her upset but doesn't shatter her like before.. coz may be she knows, his
wedding day will be her last day in his life and so there will be no way for him to say her face again... and so she is ready all the way to prove his words right in her own way...the way he always keeps saying that he can't love anybody, and even yest when he said she holds no importance in his life, she didn't say a word as if she is accepting that she will never get the love from him she wants and she doesn't want so called importance without love... and so she meets his eyes calmly... only if he knew behind her calmness there is the strength that has made her take the ultimate decision of her life : that she can live whith letting her love (Jalal) die or she can give her love a chance to live by sacrificing her own life... and so though she is upset that she has hurt him and he now hates her (atleast he says so, even if it's not true), she is not shattered by his words, coz in her heart she has that contentment of her decision ... (is it more phylosophical? can't help... Jo's stance yest, after he takes her back to room and after his final words, was this way, i felt to be)

only if she knows , when she finally will take that drastic step, her love won't be the one to give up so easily... only if she knows , he too is the other side of the coin like she is one... only if she knows he is hurting her coz he himself is fighting the battle with that unknown feeling towards her, which he is not ready to accept with the fear of one more rejection from her...

both r ready to hurt eachother now to the point of breaking the other to the last thread... and the fact that it will be Jalal who will break first when Jo will faint due to poison... following with the uncertain emptiness he is about to face seeing her unconcious in his arms... the feeling that it was him who drove her to take that step... the guilt and defeat he is about to face, will be breaking him , shattering him to core only to give him the ultimate strength to fight for his love, before she goes away forever...and I hope Jalal is ready to face that...coz Jo has already reached there ...


guys, i had said twi days back, that the lowest point is yet to come... for me it was yest , with Jallad saying those dreadful words and Jo maintaining her dignity and calmness has drawn the line, and now from there it's a journey for both of them to new horizon ...whether the marriage
happens or not, the journey still will continue...

I also found that sentence of his horrible! My only consolation is that we know Jodha is going to save him and he has to see her face when she is fighting for her life. Since we know what's coming we are slightly able to tolerate this kind of dialogue. But otherwise it would have been one of those things I could never forgive!
But overall, just wanted to say I loved your post today. I was really grumpy from last evening after watching the episode and seeing another filler. But after reading your post I am feeling much less intolerant and more open. Thanks for that. That what friends are for, I guess!?🤗
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Posted: 11 years ago
#64

Originally posted by: devica

Wonderful Post !

Manasi may I call you by your name?

Thanks, and definitely yes, please call me Mansi!😛
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Posted: 11 years ago
#65
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Originally posted by: MaddyO



AGREE 100%. Nobody stops watching one random day, they start missing few episodes and then more and get hooked to something else, till they stop watching alltogether

It is ONLY PARIDHI & RAJAT who are getting them TRPs, while CVs & Zee are still claiming Ben track is populer, she is liked!!!

Somebody very smartly pointed out here, their so called popular track has NOT GOT THEM ANY ADDITIONAL TRPs only lowered them


Maddy, if Jalal had inelegantly landed on his backside after tripping on Jodha ka baggage at least that may have zipped his mouth from saying that "deathbed" sentence.! I don't know what the Creatives are gaining by turning us so against the main characters and why they are latching onto these cameo actors with so much Fevicol?Ouch😡
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Posted: 11 years ago
#66

Originally posted by: Cleo12345



I was also stunned by Jalal's last sentence...to my eye,.There was a lot anger there...Infact , this is the rudest Jalal has been to Jodha... I found it worse than the' Zinda Jalaa denge' or 'Tum meri jeet ki nishani ho' dialogues. He even brought up the ;audha' and 'ghrina' words.

i think that he wasn't saying all this just to impress the Audha begum...His anger towards Jodha has flared up suddenly. This is a man with a superking sized ego...Most people felt that he must be feeling happy inside after Jodha's Teerandaazi adventure...I did too, just after the episode...but now I see it as... Jodha did what she wanted to do and got away with it. He knows that she was the Teerandaaz but cannot prove it...unless she admits...she left no traces behind...the arrow alone is not a very convincing circumstantial evidence...It is only his gut feeling and knowledge of her archery skills that made him suspect her. Her facial expression gave away everything but hats off to her ( with timely help from Audha Begum as well)...she did not actually admit it...He secretly loves her so cant accuse her publicly...everyone will be after her life...But he also sees this as a failure of Mughal Saltanat Bureau of Investigation...she fooled them all and escaped...not that this is the first time they have been useless but this time...He is aware of it ...and ...this time they were beaten by Jodha Begum!!!! being the chief of this FBI, how could his ego not be bruised...yet again by JB-007( Jodha Begum not James Bond). To me this along with the memory of Dhakka episode explains this sudden escalation of his anger today.

Would we swallow this kind of irrationality in a man who was so astute as to rule the whole of Hindustan? Can he have been less than diplomatic to achieve such a feat? Then how are we to swallow that he is smart with everyone else, except Jodha? The Creatives want us to think that he is so much in love with her inside his heart that his words are blurting out without any self-control? I find that very strange in an "astute king" of nearly three-fourths of Hindustan!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#67

Originally posted by: divyavm

Hi Mansi- you sound disappointed with the episode but great analysis nonetheless.

The CVs will have fun stretching this track - after all the pain we have been through they know we will watch every episode because who doesn't want to watch the end?

In the meantime, here is a post I created to cheer up- it focuses on just the positives of each episode: http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3902734.

Hoping we can cheer up soon enough.

Thanks to people like you for helping us stay sane!👏👏👏👏👏
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Largely i was ready to give a speech of esteem on Jalal yesterday when i saw jalal was altercating with ruq for jodha's r8 but alas! simultaneously he didn't forget to rebuke n hurt jodha before ruq that is now his religiously rutine work..well, in 1 place jalal showed his positive attitude that he started to keep his biological mother's utter n hence he again ordered to search ben's room..
In this whole week,ben's track has been dragged redundantly except monday's episode.
Therefore hopefully next monday wl b the most crucial part n the finishing of this track.
Great analysis.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: nabiii

Largely i was ready to give a speech of esteem on Jalal yesterday when i saw jalal was altercating with ruq for jodha's r8 but alas! simultaneously he didn't forget to rebuke n hurt jodha before ruq that is now his religiously rutine work..well, in 1 place jalal showed his positive attitude that he started to keep his biological mother's utter n hence he again ordered to search ben's room..
In this whole week,ben's track has been dragged redundantly except monday's episode.
Therefore hopefully next monday wl b the most crucial part n the finishing of this track.
Great analysis.

Nabii, I don't know if this track will end by Monday. I have some feeling it may be Tuesday or Wednesday before it ends!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Thanks for the detailed listing of all the idiotic stuff we have put up with since this track began. Now I feel like bashing my head on a wall that I have been watching all this for four weeks like an addict! I am not sorry for Jalal and Jodha and the Creatives ... I am sorry for the pathetic creature I have become!

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