Mughals - JA(REAL) is not Fiction-Pt4 - Author/TM's note on Pg1 and 91 - Page 7

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Minor Updates - on Pages - 6,8,9,14,16

Though something is there on every page..Major updates are on following page..
Page 6 - MUZ
Page 8 - Tansen and Mughal dresses(updated)
Page 9 -'Wali Ni'maat'.another title given 2 Heer Kunwari.apart from MUZ
Page 14 - Mughal dresses(new update)
Page 16 - Some OLD graves unearthed..!!..About MUZ..


Originally posted by: Clumsy_Wings


Abhay, I heard that MUZ was given another name after her marriage. "Wali Nimat Begum..

The above is a interesting hit i found on a edict she issued.

it talks about a edict MUZ issued. Can you find it more about me? What was the edict she issued?



NOTE:>

are yr..
U r taking away all the suspense...from the thread... 😆

Yes she had this title..


Plz wait fr some tym...
U will b shocked to see how many titles...she had...!!!..

Infact probably maximum number of titles a mughal begum ever had...!!!...

Dts y i m totally against d false propaganda which degrades muz..
coz D info i hv encountered proves smthng else..

Not Only the title of mariam uz zamani...

But also the title of wali nimaat...
This means - blessing of allah/saint...
again u c...
this is again a divine type of title...filled with spirituality...

This was given by AKBAR himself, before Salim's birth(i also read this...thnx fr confirming...)...
so, u c her status before Salim's birth.."Without Salim a TITLE for her...Contrary 2 popular opinion..!!!...
Again another "PROOF", of her status before..arrival of Salim...Contrary to what people claim..!!!..

Another "proof" for her...!!
( I remember a comment on page 1 by sonia here..where she mentioned about proofs...😆...These proofs and references are really haunting US now..!!..)


And, yes u are correct, An emperor will not give this SPIRITUAL and UNIQUE title to any other begum...unless she was his "Khas..".😉...

Really, don't want to write all this...but this thread is turning out be a station of romance..
but...i am HELPLESS😕 coz the questions which people are asking themselves speak about...this...

U saw the comment on Tansen on previous page...dt is another piece of ** .

Infact, most of her titles are demonstrating sort of spirituality and respect...The title of MUZ was exceptional...But, other titles were really awesome..

Wali Nimaat in hindi means peer/...khuda ka taufa sort of..!!!!...
Got a flashback...or a Connection.??

u remember sheikh chisti message to jalal on dat jodha's religion conversion issue...??
Vn he says - jalal tumhe khuda ka taufa milega...! Aur tumhara walihad bhi...!!..

(Disclaimer::>> This is my interpretation...I STRONGLY feel i am CONNECTING it rightly...U may accept or reject it...But, i have strong feeling...coz i have reading this wali nimaat issue..In Rajputana Accounts as well...will quote the book in future threads..)

I feel u got d connection..??.😲

ON A LIGHTER NOTE,
I cn giv u countless facts till date which cv s have quoted...😆
and all of dm point to future...events...

Really those ppl dere r doing a perfect job...👏
d only thng is MOST OF US do not know wht they r trying to show us...😕

Afterall, if they have researched for 1.5 years...
THEY KNOW MORE THAN ANY ONE HERE...
We will never be able to get hold of EACH AND EVERY event...
No matter how hard i or u try..😕

Infact her every title she got speaks volume about her power status prestige influence...
And her dominance in the imperial household...

BUT...i will require a separate post... IF U WANT ALL HER TITLES...LOL...

Well...hv loads of shocking infos about her...
Bt will open dm in a systematic manner one by one...

wanted to put this in this thread..
Bt u c..
It wud hv been out of topic..😕
Dis topic is for mughal culture of dressing...
since i wanted some break from truth xposing series...


U r dragging me bck there...😆..

Njoy d show friends...v r nt being fooled by it..Core events r true...As mentioned earlier also.

Hit 👍🏼.
Edited by history_geek - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: Clumsy_Wings


Abhay, I heard that MUZ was given another name after her marriage. "Vali Nimat Begum..

The above is a interesting hit i found on a edict she issued.

it talks about a edict MUZ issued. Can you find it more about me? What was the edict she issued?

The exercept from one one of the edict issued by MUZ


The seals on the hukm says, "Vali Ni'mat Begum, valideh Nur al- Jahangir, thus clearly identifying MUZ, with Vali Ni'



i ll tl u abt dt edict also...
Encountered it long tym back...Hv written smwhere in my notes..Ryt now..busy wid prjct wrk..
Bt i feel till dn above info will work...for u...and keep u stable..!!..😉
Edited by history_geek - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#63
Thanks for writing these posts! I am a bit of a history buff but I know little to nothing about Indian history since I'm born and raised American. I know a lot of American history and some European but I've been trying to learn Indian history. And I should also since that is where my family hails from. Thanks again! 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Abhay, according to history Wali Nimat was given before she gave birth to Jhangir. That might speak of the covetous title, and position she might have enjoyed even before giving birth. She might have been one of khas begums.😳

In the Commentary to Edicts from the Mughal Harem, S.A. Tirmizi, former head of the National Archives, points out: "Wali Nimat Begum appears to be the name of one of the wives of Akbar who according to the seal of this document was the mother of Jahangir. She also enjoyed the other covetous title of Maryam Zamani, as is evident from the unwan (title) of the hukm...It appears that Wali Nimat Begum was the name given to the daughter of Raja Bharamal after her marriage to Akbar and it was after the birth of Prince Salim (later Jahangir) that the honorific of Maryam Zamani was conferred on her". - See more at: .

It's your fault btw for making me impatience, and making me research like this.😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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OMGGG so much infos 👏 👍🏼 thankss a lot guys
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@Lizzy2012

Awesome...😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: goldenmoon

beautiful pics...
lovely post...
will wait for ur more posts in future...



Welcome..😊
BTW, this post is still on...More to come here...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sreev12

awesome ... awesome ... 👏 👏



Thnx.😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ann2012

fantastic post!

loved it from beginning till end 👏👏



Well...More in store..to come soon..😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Jaz713

Thanks for writing these posts! I am a bit of a history buff but I know little to nothing about Indian history since I'm born and raised American. I know a lot of American history and some European but I've been trying to learn Indian history. And I should also since that is where my family hails from. Thanks again! 😊



Welcome.😊
I "WAS" also in the same ship as urs...No problem..

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