Mughals - JA(REAL) is not Fiction-Pt4 - Author/TM's note on Pg1 and 91 - Page 63

Originally posted by: history_geek

AKBAR AND DYSLEXIA

Tamy, Gussa kyu hote ho..!!..😃

This 'dyslexia' is a "relative" concept, not "absolute", and, involves lot of things. I won't say Akbar to be a dyslexic. This question is highly debatable. I have read a lot, and concluded something as follows:

As per modern theories, a dyslexic person has many symptoms, like --
(more symptoms are there, no need to do PHD on this topic.😆)

1.
Attention Deficiency --> And, this DOES NOT fits in his personality.

2.
Poor memory --> Again, contradictory. Akbar could remember the event by heart..! (It's said..)

3.
Low Self-esteem --> Again, DOES NOt fits with Akbar's persona. NOT AT ALL.

4.
Panicking during disorder-->Again, against him. He was known for his well-calculated moves.

5.
Poor interest in Mathematics --> Now, for this i have a solid proof. Sheikh Faiz Mubarak translated a book in mathematics, called Lilavati, written in 12th century, in Persian, on Akbar's orders. Also, he was appointed Mathematics teacher for his son. Doesn't this say, despite not being able to learn, he knew the importance of Mathematics.?.

Finally, i gave these points to justify that, if a person can't read or write, then we CAN NOT term him to be a total dyslexic. There are many points REQUIRED to prove someone,dyslexic.😊
If BEING ILLITERATE is the "ONLY" definition for dyslexia, then ALL illiterates in the world are dyslexic.!. 😉😊

Originally posted by: sunram

In a age when physical activity was of utmost importance and Akbar was said to be a very good soldier and could overpower a number of soldiers single handed and also elephants horses. Studies like in the current age was not so popular as the need of the times was different and there were few scholarly families and persons who excelled in that and what ever I read from different sources suggest that Akbar was far ahead of his time in getting documented in text and pictures his regime . Such a person being Dyslexia which is a pretty modern concept I find it difficult to digest to even think Akbar being a dyslexia. He learnt a lot of physical traits but did not learn to read or write


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Originally posted by: history_geek

Even there was a SEPARATE section about this in the chronicles, which talked about ::>>

1.WOMEN adornment..
2.their jewels...
3.Even their methods of dressing up..(i do not know all this..😕..)

So, i did not read all those things..U see..this is not my..domain..😊..
(i mean, what will i get reading about how women dressed themselves..)😆

If had i written all that, it would have become another NEW thread.!!.So, i left it..


BTW, ur answer::>>>

I skipped that part in Ain-i-Akbari...

But, i read something regarding it, in another book..

Italian traveller, Niccolao Manucci..
Manucci was in the court of Mughals.
Also, he served in the service of a Raja of Amber.(name forgotten..)

In his book, Memoirs of Mughal Court, probably page-37..😕

He has written in his accounts--- "Hindoo women used vermillion(sindoor) in their hair parting..And a dot in the middle of their forehead.. "..

This is also given in following book..
Hindu Women, By Altekar
page-300

So,
I feel this DOT on forehead means bindi..??

And this is my GUESS -->>
"Women used a vermillion tika instead of bindi..
Probably, bindi was not there at that time...(Its my guess..)...
ALSO, again, in the show, Jo is not using bindi.
She is actually using a vermillion tika...Did u observe before..??😉
If u have not observed...u may see TODAY.😉
"

Hope..m not wrong..😕..

Originally posted by: Lizzy2012

Yeah exactly,I referred to no specifics here as all of them would be censored in public interests by the censor board of the forum.😆the evening clothes were made of material Dhaka malmal called shabnam..

Abu fazl lists some flowers used in the harem for extracting perfume and use of skin ointments as-

Sewti,mogra,champa juhi,molsari,nargis,kewra ,ratan manjari,kaner ,gulab..

Abu fazl tells us that the mughal empire imported silks from China and Persia.he says that material like kimkhab,katan,tafta,ambari,tasser and makhmal were imported from Europe,Turkey,Portugal,Herat etc.so one can the opulence of the mughal empire through this..it is also said that no royal lady repeats her dresses..I was amazed..

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Good article.👏

Not read all 81 pages😆

Dandiya dress: The cloth over lahanga may be the chunari/sari that is tied at the waist at one end and covered over the head at the other end.

Explicit postures in Mughal era - shocking😆

What about the veil/purdah at least in Mughal dressing?

Some pics of MUZ on internet (I know u hate it) show her completely in Mughal style dress. Did she really convert to Islam at some point and start wearing Mughal dress?

Not related to the link u sent but read somewhere Akbar wanted his kids to be brought up as Muslims. without Rajputana influence. He was such a liberal person - did he really think like this with regard to his kids? At least one son was however handed over to MUZ's mother for upbringing?

Originally posted by: history_geek

AKBAR AND DYSLEXIA

This 'dyslexia' is a "relative" concept, not "absolute", and, involves lot of things. I won't say Akbar to be a dyslexic. This question is highly debatable. I have read a lot, and concluded something as follows:

As per modern theories, a dyslexic person has many symptoms, like --
(more symptoms are there, no need to do PHD on this topic.😆)

1.
Attention Deficiency --> And, this DOES NOT fits in his personality.

2.
Poor memory --> Again, contradictory. Akbar could remember the event by heart..! (It's said..)

3.
Low Self-esteem --> Again, DOES NOt fits with Akbar's persona. NOT AT ALL.

4.
Panicking during disorder-->Again, against him. He was known for his well-calculated moves.

5.
Poor interest in Mathematics --> Now, for this i have a solid proof. Sheikh Faiz Mubarak translated a book in mathematics, called Lilavati, written in 12th century, in Persian, on Akbar's orders. Also, he was appointed Mathematics teacher for his son. Doesn't this say, despite not being able to learn, he knew the importance of Mathematics.?.

Finally, i gave these points to justify that, if a person can't read or write, then we CAN NOT term him to be a total dyslexic. There are many points REQUIRED to prove someone,dyslexic.😊
If BEING ILLITERATE is the "ONLY" definition for dyslexia, then ALL illiterates in the world are dyslexic.!. 😉😊

Originally posted by: sunram

In a age when physical activity was of utmost importance and Akbar was said to be a very good soldier and could overpower a number of soldiers single handed and also elephants horses. Studies like in the current age was not so popular as the need of the times was different and there were few scholarly families and persons who excelled in that and what ever I read from different sources suggest that Akbar was far ahead of his time in getting documented in text and pictures his regime . Such a person being Dyslexia which is a pretty modern concept I find it difficult to digest to even think Akbar being a dyslexia. He learnt a lot of physical traits but did not learn to read or write
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Originally posted by: tamy267

Abhay iska matlab the reason behind his remaining illiterate coz of him being the emperor at very young age right ?🤔

Originally posted by: KDR81

Tamy Dear,
That's one of the reasons 😳and another being that no one really cared for his reading /writing and thought making him a good warrior was more needed at that moment...!! And later, probably becoz of social embarrassment he never made an effort to start himself.😊 But he had acute interest in scholarly things and made it a point to memorize verses and such things as he had a remarkable memory...!!😳

Regards,
Kamal

P.S.Dyslexia is something which has got a lot of gradations...in some, it gets treated with age...and in some it is manifested only in certain areas of learning...not all...And usually, many dyslexic children are proved to be Genius' in later lives...in their own chosen field of mastery.😊