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Posted: 11 years ago
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You know, Alakh, I felt the same, for all that she gets on my nerves, especially when she is sitting all by herself before Mahaam arrives. It is the concern one feels for the underdog. When she lifted scared eyes to Jalal's and tried to explain that she had not meant to do it and it was just an accident, she looked so woebegone that my heart went out to her. Paridhi did wonderfully well in that scene.

She plays her cards all wrong. The only person who counts in Agra is Jalal, but even after he has become more civilised and even apologetic, she does not take advantage of it by behaving at least politely with him, if not cordially, and building some sort of tentative bridge to him.

Did you hear what he says at the height to his rage today, something he has said before to Jodha? Aapne hamesha hamein apne hi nazaroon mein girane ki koshish ki hai. That belief, beginning from the day when he heard her demand his head from Suryabhan, and abuse him in the worst possilble terms, also lingers in his zehen, and colours all his reactions towards things she is accused of doing.

He is convinced that she hates him and will miss no opportunity to hit at him and humiliate him. That was another reason why her misbehaviour with him at the Meena Bazaar was a big mistake, for that coloured his attitude towards her today. As Napoleon said of a mistake made by one of his generals: It was worse than a crime, it was a blunder.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose


She is blinded by her prejudices and has made a lot of mistakes.. But its not easy to let go of the past..

I hate how she is all alone.. with people enjoying her misery... Hamida is useless..


Originally posted by: sashashyam

No, Alakh, I do not agree. Now was the time for her to show her mettle. What is the worst that could have happened to her? Being sent back home pronto. But that was on the cards already. Anyone can strut about when times are easy, but the brave stand up to tough circumstances.

And what hurt are you talking about? Her saasuma does everything short of building a temple to Jodha, and her husband was very patient and understanding with her yesterday. So what hurt?

In all this, why is she behaving, even before this latest crisis, as though Jalal is shunting her back to Amer? He gave her a choice, and the way she behaved when he came to her with the khushkhabari, he assumes that she has decided to leave. If she does not want to go, all she has to do is to wear that rich green joda in which she sang that ode to Rajput valour!!

Shyamala Aunty



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Posted: 11 years ago
#62
I agree, Meghana.

Jodha is being shown to be like a yoyo, Unnecessarily hoity toity one moment, and unnecessarily humble the other. I am thinking of setting up a Protect Jodha Project, of like-minded members who feel, like I do, that her character's potential is being ruined and reduced to the standard soap female lead, and this needs to be set right by lobbying the CVs about it.

All this said and done, and for all that she gets on my nerves, I felt very sorry for Jodha today, especially when she is sitting all by herself before Mahaam arrives. It is the concern one feels for the underdog. When she lifted scared eyes to Jalal's and tried to explain that she had not meant to do it and it was just an accident, she looked so woebegone that my heart went out to her. Paridhi did wonderfully well in that scene.

But the thing that made my day was the tiger attack promo, which had me in stitches. If the tiger had had the misfortune to eat Jodha, it would have died of metal poisoning, see how much jewellery she was decked out in!😉

Shyamala

Originally posted by: meghanajain

I am tired as well - reading and writing about the brat Jodha. I wish Ekta does not ruin the female character that we all came to admire after the movie. Next week is suicide drama, god give me patience! I might be with you to say bye bye as well if Jodha's characterization does not change soon..

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

I agree, Meghana.

Jodha is being shown to be like a yoyo, Unnecessarily hoity toity one moment, and unnecessarily humble the other. I am thinking of setting up a Protect Jodha Project, of like-minded members who feel, like I do, that her character's potential is being ruined and reduced to the standard soap female lead, and this needs to be set right by lobbying the CVs about it.

All this said and done, and for all that she gets on my nerves, I felt very sorry for Jodha today, especially when she is sitting all by herself before Mahaam arrives. It is the concern one feels for the underdog. When she lifted scared eyes to Jalal's and tried to explain that she had not meant to do it and it was just an accident, she looked so woebegone that my heart went out to her. Paridhi did wonderfully well in that scene.

But the thing that made my day was the tiger attack promo, which had me in stitches. If the tiger had had the misfortune to eat Jodha, it would have died of metal poisoning, see how much jewellery she was decked out in!😉

Shyamala

How long has forum waited for the tiger, you had beautiful write up about it. I would use your original advice though - Bahar se hi mera bura haal kar rahi hai, tu agar khayega to tera kya hoga mohan. Metal ka bhar to sehlega lekin uska pahad saman ghusse ka bhaar - namumkin!
Edited by meghanajain - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thank you, my dear.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

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Posted: 11 years ago
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superb post aunty !!!! ⭐️ your quote - But yesternight's display by Jodha when Jalal comes to her khema at the Meena Bazaar has exhausted all my stock of patience with her. If I could have got hold of a stout slipper, I would have walloped her with it good and proper. omg even i was fed up with jodhas attitude !!! what is wrong with her ??? she has been given a choice to go back to amer so still y is she being rude ??? doesnt she say that going back to her parents place even if alone is much better than staying with a person whom u have loads of grihna ??? what does she want ??? agree akbar wasnt fair to her but was she fair to akbar even once??? when akbar realised his mistake he apoligized to her then when will she realise her mistake ??? chalo u dnt have to be lovey dovey or even accept his apology but cant she be civilised while speaking ??? everytime she speaks to akbar its about amer amer n amer ...we amerians r this n that ...isnt that an indirect way of insulting the opposite person saying u all dont have the values etc which we have!!!! any other husband would have said her to back to amer long back !!! plus y does everyone feel that jodha wants to stay back in agra...never once did she do or say anything of this effect ???Aunty please explain me this.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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No,no, Dilip, why should you be sorry? Apart from my warning advisory😉, which you have obviously disregarded, we can and should agree to disagree, that is all, for we are both entitled to hold our individual and honest opinions.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: dilipc302

Sorry. Not liked the writeup at all.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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I agree with all of this, Megha, and the strangest thing was the contrast between Jodha yesterday and Jodha today. It was like Jodha 1 and Jodha 2.

If you have the time, please look thru my exchanges with Ela and with Alakh above, which cover my take on today's episode as well. In fact, a large number of posts on this thread have been substantive and very interesting.

Javeda is perhaps the only person alive who can get the better of Mahaam - she is no fool!- and she is a delight to watch.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: BornThisWay

Though Jodha was very unpleasant, still I liked the Meena Bazaar scene.

Jodha is always planning to somehow piss Jalal - I wonder why? He has agreed to all her demands & even gave her the permission to go back to Amer, so why is she donning this attitude?

A Princess or Queen always greets the person who comes to meet her - Jodha in no way seems to be a Queen.

Among all the people - I find Javeda the only admirable person.

Ameri Mirchi needs to reduce her zest now.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Dear Apurva,

A very nice and convincing post. You and I are at one about the reason for Jodha's crabbiness, but she has to sit down and think it thru and then make up her mind. That is what any strong and intelligent woman would do. Not carry like a spoilt tantrum queen one day and a bheegi billi the next.

Yes, of course Jodha is one of his khaas begums, she is his sole challenge, after all. And Javeda, who is a smart cookie thru and thru, is a sheer delight whenever she appears, like Johnny Walker in the old days (the most famous Hindi film comedian of the 1950s -1970s).

No, Apurva, your clever explanation re: Jodha's choosing a colours stall will not wash. Once she had set up a stall, she was participating. Her not having been able to sell anything would not make her a non-participant after that.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: ApurvaLovesARVI

Very Well Written, Here's what I wrote on Skanda's post[ On how to sell silliness at stalls] do take a look

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Amazing!! The post is...what to say?? I am speechless. I like your title of the 3 womens who sold silliness. Silly Chick!!😆
Jodha was very Rude and unlike her, Jalal was very composed. What was she trying to prove, Maybe showing her displeasure that Shehen Shah is OK with her leaving to Amer.
I do think, this behaviour of hers is delibrate, Because I noticed since Jalal told her that she has the opion to go back to Amer, she is showing that she HATES Amer, Dam ghut ta hai uska yahan par! She shows Jalal that she is suffocating here.
Jodha doesn't want to acknowledge the fact that She doesn't wants to go, and I think is hping Jalal would say something of "Aap kahin nahi jaa rahi hai Begum Jodha" But since Jalal shows that he is all OK with her going back, the rage is venting out in this way.
This is Purely my Opinion doesn't needs to be true. I find Jodha's behaviour has some hidden element to it, It is delibrate because witnessing how Jodha is she would do this, She will do if she is heated up on something with Jalal and Jalal recently didn't did such thing only did whats she wanted, to go back, Whcih now she doesn't wants and to her Jalal seems OK so that angers her, Maybe.
For Ruquiya, No comments!😆 But her Duppata was beautiful. And she led me down. When she was boasting about how this tim too she has something Unique and something to surprise him ,I thought it would be but Duppatas?? They must be with some other womens also, Dupatta can be thought a a common thing to sell.Last time's, Pashmina was unique indeed. And I think Jalal's praise was fake and delibrate, It didn't seemed unique and somehting that would attract him amidst all the shops.It was only Javeda and Jodha's shop which could do that, because they had something different that the rest of crowd.
And Javeda, she is fav if you talk about Comedy. But she is indeed smart. Her Idea was most unique, Everybody else had loads of cloths, Jewellery, Itrs and things like that but who ever could think of Potraits of a smiling Maham Anga. BUt that was creative and Unique, No one had seen Maham Anga smiling, she smiles rarely but that too is wicked or else fake. So it would be somehting new to see smiling Maham Anga's potrait. Jalal should have seen her shop I'm sure he would have Bought all the potraits of his dearest Badi Ammi, but unfortunately for him his Badi Ammi already did.
Jodha's shop was unique is you see, Colours is something no one would have thought except our Rajputani Begum. And seeing a wide array of Vibrant colours is pleasant, for me it was. Her behaviour was somehting not excpected but I wrote my view on that above.
p.s. Did you noticed Jodha is one Jalal's Khaas Begum!He acknowledged it himself. While buying the Dupatta he said "Hame teen dupatte chahiye, hamari teen KHAAS begumo ke liye" One for Ruquiya, One for Salima and one was Jodha too!! That means Jodha is Khaas Begum too!!
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Do tell what do you think about my view on Jodha's behaviour.
You told that Jalal bought all the colours because he knew no one would want that, and she will end up lokking like a fool. But I have something more to add on that.
What I think is Jodha delibaretly chose colors as her stock to sell, because she knew no one would buy and she would be not be invovled in Meena Bazzar. When she whispered in her baandi's ear, she excleaimed "Aap sach me aise karne ki soch rahi Jodha?" To which she confidenty replied "Haan"
p.s. Now that Tiger is on that way, by the way Superb editing it was, I am so happy that Jalal subconciously or conciously acknowledged that Jodha is one of her 3 Khaas Begums.Yeahh!!!

Edited by sashashyam - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Nice write up aunty...👍🏼

What jodha did was unintentional...but, it offended maham...maham reminded jalal that she had given up colours after her husband's demise...because she wanted 'sadagi'...so, besides the religion thing...there is also a very personal angle to it...and, the combination was good enough to infuriate jalal...allowing jodha to play holi was a huge concession...but, he had told her in the same breath that her celebrations should not be a cause of problem to others...

Jodha accepted her mistake...she too is a very religious person...she understands that it's a very sensitive issue..and, offending someone's religious sentiments is almost a sin...Her cheerleader(I am borrowing the term) also said something on these lines..."aanjane mein kiya gaya hai par gunah hai..."...that explains the guilt and the willingness to accept punishment...though, it's good that she told jalal she didn't do it purposely...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I agree completely, Diksha, and then today, Jodha turned suddenly from a hoity toity young lady cocking a snook at the emperor, to a puddle of excessive regret, and that too expressed to that witch Mahaam Anga!

If you have the time, take a look at my exchanges on the previous pages with Ela and Alakh, which also cover the Friday episode.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

Jodha was totally foolish yest. seems she joined hands with Ruku. the best is Salima. soft, wise and mature

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