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Posted: 11 years ago
#71
Hi Shyamala,
As usual I had posted my latest one to ur last one as I watch the epi quite late and was wondering what happened to my post 😛 Just copy-pasting here for my own reference and urs too...😛😛

Hi Shyamala ,
Just saw the Episode...Well, I think I am getting quite apt in finding the actual thoughts (or Vocalized thoughts ) behind the apparently strange acts of Ja-Jo...yesterday I predicted Ja- hidden meaning of buying all the colors from Jo is EXACTLY what he stated to Ruqaiyya...!!😊

Am unhappy about the act of Ja on the Holi colors but at least that will lead to the "Veeru-Style Suside" now...some action at least !!

** But how come Jalaal guess correctly abt what she could have in mind and go out himself?? And even if he does, then how come he could not do so in earlier incidents(I mean read her mind like this) ?? **

The Suicide attempt sadly seems to be similar to Schoolkids getting Guardian-calls for mis-conduct and thus attempting such drastic things...😒

U r so very correct with ur "Bheegi Billi" adjective... and I would like to repeat again that, day by day I am finding the acts of Jo unreasonable and haywire to say the least (Not the Apology though) ...😕 One day she showers Ja with Pinching words and rude orations and the Next day she is a "Trembling bunch of nerves" in front of the same Ja.(Not to mention so many other such contradictions)
In fact the only Consistency of her character portrayed here is the Inconsistency of it.😕

Now that Tiger Treat is confirmed....I guess that it wold be Ja's decision to tag her along with him so as to keep an eye on her (as he said on the Riverbank scene that he will not allow her Manmaani anymore).

And yes, I too saw the Tiger promo...🤣 My my...How come they could make such a comedy of Jodha' character??🤣 She must be giving the reason that she wanted to stop him from "Anuchit Pashu Hatyaa"...🤣
Kudos To Rajat for the expression hearing her confession...!!!!😆
(Just to add 1 thing, did u notice that he came in front of Jo when the Tiger went for her first...can't help but remember his promise "Humare hote huye aapko kisi baat ka Khauf nahi hona chahiye...Kyunki Har Khatre se Aapko bachane ke liye hum Mauzood hai..."😊 (Even when she has regressed herself to the mind-state of a Complete Donkey!! 🤪)

Truly , A man of his words ...!!!👏 Salute to the character Jalaal here...!!👍🏼

Poor Chap, Now have to deal with 1 "Real Sher" and 1 "Jenny-Ass" in "Sherni Costume" all alone...🤣

Let's see how much of the guess is spot on.😊

Regards,
Kamal

P.S.Now we won't mind a little of Petrucio style reprimand from Ja, albeit in a modified and sophisticated way!!😆 (As he already does on River bank by grabbing & pushing her)

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Posted: 11 years ago
#72
My dear, she gives him no respect at all, since long before the dature ka ark case. I did not mean that the wrongs she suffered were comparable with theirs, for Jalal was deliberately sadistic towards her (he had a special reason for that in his own mind then, but that is not relevant here), and only towards her.

For one thing in those days no wife walked beside her husband. It is not enough for Jodha to assert it to make it come true. A 16th century queen was never the equal of the king anywhere in the world. But even if you grant Jodha that, respect is a two way street. You cannot go on saying you hate your husband and have nothing but disgust and contempt for him, and then expect him to care for you and respect you. Why should he?

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: ASRaddictKKG

The interesting and relevant point is that her brothers feel no rancour towards Jalal.

The brothers who have barely had two interactions with the Emperor. He apologised, which was more than necessary, done and over with.
She is his WIFE! He might have many begums, she has only one husband. And from the first episode she has always said a queen does not walk behind the king, she walks with him. For a man, his wife's respect should come first.
Im only talking about this line, not his or her current behaviour.
There is absolutely and completely NO comparison.

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Posted: 11 years ago
#73
Thank you, my dear. I too object only to her being rude to him in public, in private, it is their business!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: itsRitzi

so agree i was like jodha suddenly becoming very rude n i was like sab bandiyon ke samne wat she saying to shahenshah n shahenshah didnt say anything he was all calm throghout jodha made fool of herself wen he told tat dupatta was meant for her heheh

lovely post love reading ur posts

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Posted: 11 years ago
#74
You know, Suchi, your 2 cents are usually worth a whole silver dollar!

No, dear, this was not private, for the harem is a huge gossip mandali and it looks very bad for a begum to talk to the Shahenshah like that.

Apart from that, I think your interpretation of Jodha's present crabbiness could be absolutely right, though I think it is all a tad premature. But she seems incapable of sitting down and thinking it thru, and then deciding what to do.After all, she knows that he offered her a choice, he did not ask her to go back to Amer, But she seems to have now convinced herself that he is forcing her to go back!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Suchi-

But the thing is is it really a public place for all I know it was just Harem women .. so it was more or less her own home just out side.

When it was outside she did show those men who were talking bad about emperor badly .. and put them in their place.

One thing I think many are failing to understand is.. Jodha is behaving that way is cause she is actually smitten by Jalal now. She has started to like him and her hatred for him is making her not like him on purpose and all those feelings are forcing her to behave in that manner.

She wants his attention and yes it was childish.. but when kids become stubborn its usually to get attention.

So I do not blame her. She has become over rude.. cause Jalal has actually asked her to go back to Amer. She never expected this from him. She expected him to keep her as a prisoner and treat her badly. bUt here surprisingly for her, jalal has shown mercy towards her which she could never equate with Jalal. And by showing mercy , she is realizing that he is not that bad as she thought he was... her added findings about his dealings with many, has already dented her shieldof hatred.

Thus her behavior is going haywire right now.

my 2 cents.


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Posted: 11 years ago
#75
My dear Munni,

You are absolutely right in all this. Jodha is lucky that Jalal is not the wife-beating type!😉

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: munnirony

well i know jodha has evry right to be rude & angry on jalal. & im not asking her to talk to jalal politely. but at least she could have talked properly. when jalal asked him about her "khema" she should have answered firmly, but properly. i dont expect her to be nice, but saying 'its none of ur business" was indeed bit too much, bcoz jalal is the shahenshah so obviously its his business. but i loved the scene bcoz the way jalal handled the whole situation was fab. he didnt gave a damn to her & it didnt even effected him.😆 so ultimately as i say "jodha ka popat ho gaya". jalal ruled tht scene bcoz he was not wrong tht time. i am saying again & again jalal did wrong & deserves to be told off, but it could have done properly as well. & 2ndly, sum people might say tht its not a big deal tht jalal said sorry, but its jalal's gudness tht he said srry, bcoz noone can force him to say sorry. wht can jodha do if he dont say srry??? jodha is brave but not powerful enough to resist jalal. if jalal wants he still can destroy amer or kill her brothers & noone can stop. i dont support jalal for his deeds but my only point is he is changing & he is realizing his mistakes.

P.S.:- she is using his money to fulfill her day to day needs especially for 'krishna puja'. if jalal wants he can stop tht as well. so if jalal wants to be bad, he can actually be worst. so at least sum proper, if not polite, behavior is expected from her.

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Posted: 11 years ago
#76
Thank you so much, my dear.

Well, Jalal is going to be doing not one but 2 exceptional things, for he is going to save her life twice over!

Shyamala B.Cowsik


Originally posted by: ipkkndfan21

Amazing analysis as usual,
I m fine with her ghrina as long as its within the 4 walls, its justified, she is totally broken after the MC fisco. Nothing seems to be impressing her and hence Jalal has to do something exceptional to win her heart.
Bt i do agree publicly being rude is not done, it does nt do well with her character and specially after the talk she gave to the men who were talking bad abt Sheehensha.

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Posted: 11 years ago
#77
Priceless!😉 Did you read my take on the side-splitting promo? It is up there on this thread, in a message to Alakh,who had sent me the link.

And the metal poisoning risk for Mohan the Magnificent from all of that jewellery?

Shyamala

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Look what I found !!!

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Posted: 11 years ago
#78
Thank you so much, and I agree with all that you have written here, my dear.

As for your question, it is, firstly, partly wishful thinking on the part of the romantics in the forum.

Secondly, they know that if she went back, the disgrace for her family would be far worse than when she married the Mughal emperor, and the marriages of her two sisters, already difficult, would become impossible, so they feel that she would prefer to stay here.

Finally, the way in which she is constantly cribbing to Jalal about his Do din ka mehmaan seems to hint at her not wanting to leave at all.But of course she would not be caught dead confessing that!😉
Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: kriyanshfan

superb post aunty !!!! ⭐️ your quote - But yesternight's display by Jodha when Jalal comes to her khema at the Meena Bazaar has exhausted all my stock of patience with her. If I could have got hold of a stout slipper, I would have walloped her with it good and proper. omg even i was fed up with jodhas attitude !!! what is wrong with her ??? she has been given a choice to go back to amer so still y is she being rude ??? doesnt she say that going back to her parents place even if alone is much better than staying with a person whom u have loads of grihna ??? what does she want ??? agree akbar wasnt fair to her but was she fair to akbar even once??? when akbar realised his mistake he apoligized to her then when will she realise her mistake ??? chalo u dnt have to be lovey dovey or even accept his apology but cant she be civilised while speaking ??? everytime she speaks to akbar its about amer amer n amer ...we amerians r this n that ...isnt that an indirect way of insulting the opposite person saying u all dont have the values etc which we have!!!! any other husband would have said her to back to amer long back !!! plus y does everyone feel that jodha wants to stay back in agra...never once did she do or say anything of this effect ???Aunty please explain me this.

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Posted: 11 years ago
#79
Thank you so much, dear Kamal.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: KDR81

Hi Shyamala,
As usual I had posted my latest one to ur last one as I watch the epi quite late and was wondering what happened to my post 😛 Just copy-pasting here for my own reference and urs too...😛😛

Hi Shyamala ,
Just saw the Episode...Well, I think I am getting quite apt in finding the actual thoughts (or Vocalized thoughts ) behind the apparently strange acts of Ja-Jo...yesterday I predicted Ja- hidden meaning of buying all the colors from Jo is EXACTLY what he stated to Ruqaiyya...!!😊

Am unhappy about the act of Ja on the Holi colors but at least that will lead to the "Veeru-Style Suside" now...some action at least !!

** But how come Jalaal guess correctly abt what she could have in mind and go out himself?? And even if he does, then how come he could not do so in earlier incidents(I mean read her mind like this) ?? **

The Suicide attempt sadly seems to be similar to Schoolkids getting Guardian-calls for mis-conduct and thus attempting such drastic things...😒

U r so very correct with ur "Bheegi Billi" adjective... and I would like to repeat again that, day by day I am finding the acts of Jo unreasonable and haywire to say the least (Not the Apology though) ...😕 One day she showers Ja with Pinching words and rude orations and the Next day she is a "Trembling bunch of nerves" in front of the same Ja.(Not to mention so many other such contradictions)
In fact the only Consistency of her character portrayed here is the Inconsistency of it.😕

Now that Tiger Treat is confirmed....I guess that it wold be Ja's decision to tag her along with him so as to keep an eye on her (as he said on the Riverbank scene that he will not allow her Manmaani anymore).

And yes, I too saw the Tiger promo...🤣 My my...How come they could make such a comedy of Jodha' character??🤣 She must be giving the reason that she wanted to stop him from "Anuchit Pashu Hatyaa"...🤣
Kudos To Rajat for the expression hearing her confession...!!!!😆
(Just to add 1 thing, did u notice that he came in front of Jo when the Tiger went for her first...can't help but remember his promise "Humare hote huye aapko kisi baat ka Khauf nahi hona chahiye...Kyunki Har Khatre se Aapko bachane ke liye hum Mauzood hai..."😊 (Even when she has regressed herself to the mind-state of a Complete Donkey!! 🤪)

Truly , A man of his words ...!!!👏 Salute to the character Jalaal here...!!👍🏼

Poor Chap, Now have to deal with 1 "Real Sher" and 1 "Jenny-Ass" in "Sherni Costume" all alone...🤣

Let's see how much of the guess is spot on.😊

Regards,
Kamal

P.S.Now we won't mind a little of Petrucio style reprimand from Ja, albeit in a modified and sophisticated way!!😆 (As he already does on River bank by grabbing & pushing her)

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Posted: 11 years ago
#80
My dearest girl,

I never expected you back so soon, as a matter of fact, for as I wrote to you elsewhere, I know what it is to move house. But I did miss you subconsciously, and I am very pleased to have you back!

Yes, I too felt the disconnect, and it was much more on Jodha's part, especially in the way she responded, or rather failed to respond, after his public apology in the Diwan-e-Khas. It was a very big thing for him to do, and as a king's daughter, she should have understood that.

Also that she was being given a choice, not railroaded back to Amer, as she seems to have convinced herself by now. And following from that, his reasons for the second option, that he wanted a more normal marriage. As I wrote somewhere on this thread, why should he put up with a lifetime of a spouse spitting venom at him every other time he ran into her? But she does not seem to understand any of that.

I do not think, as of now, that I am going to put out a separate post on Episode 74, for there was nothing except Mahaam's cheap melodrama and Jodha's panicky reactions even before Jalal lands up to go thru his Pamplona bull routine, but I have discussed a good bit of my take on it earlier in this thread with Ela and Alakh. I would like to have your take on those posts, there is a good girl! You are very much like me in that you do not take a position in advance depending on whether you like the character or not, and so I value your opinion.

Shyamala Aunty


Originally posted by: lashy

Firstly, kaan pakadke sorry - I haven't been regular on your threads for the past 3 days..any spare time I get on IF has been taken up with first updating myself on what I'd been missing - and to top it all - a slew of articles, first Holi, then suicide and now tiger! They say, when it rains, it pours! LOL...anyway, I'm back here to read and enjoy your lovely posts!🤗

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