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Posted: 12 years ago
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Dear Meghana,

I am glad you like this one.

I agree with your take on Jalal and Jodha, but that is only on the surface, what he thinks he feels. There is an undercurrent of something else below that, of which he is not yet conscious, over and above the fierce possessiveness that was already up front in the payal scene at Amer.

It is this latent pull - something that is fated - that drags him to Amer, on a very dangerous mission, and this even before he has seen this registan ka gulab. Right now, he will be more and more angry with her for the immediate future, and I am waiting to see when it dawns on him that what he wants is not her. Not the possession of her, legally or physically even, for if he sought the latter, she, as a dutiful, wedded wife, will not refuse her husband that intimacy. What he will want is for her to want him, in the sense of caring for him, even if the idea of love is very long in coming.

Now he can, soon enough, command her dutiful obedience in all acceptable things. but not her respect and her caring. This will gnaw at him, and we shall see how he handles that entirely unfamiliar situation. It is going to be very interesting.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: meghanajain

Seriously - big applaud to Jodha on making Jalal the culprit when he came to blamer her! Ruqaiya understands Jalal so well, Jodha is a new toy for him. The only reason she holds his interest is her pride and beauty. The more he tries to get her pride down, the more she will rise and he will fall in love...I can't wait for those scenes either - the krishna prasad and sword fight and may be horse ride together.


Thank god they are showing 1 hr telecast, would have died waiting for the story to unfold. So much happened this week..Thanks for an excellent view!

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Posted: 12 years ago
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My dear Mansi,

You are like a pep up pill first thing in the morning. Thank you!

As for the mahal, it will come soon, I think, for the CVs cannot fudge that. There has to be a separate Krishna mandir in a separate palace, not because there were both there in the Fatehpur Sikri complex., but because they will need both for the prasad scene. That scene will be far more important as a milestone in this much harsher and more confrontational Jalal-Jodha relationship than it was in the film.So the palace will come, never fear. For now, the bewildered harem will be treated to Krishna bhajans, Ruqaiya in the first place! As for the rest, your explanation is spot on.

You seem to have very wise menfolk in your family. First there was your father, and now your uncle, each so perceptive in his own way. That mirror image take on what Jalal said to Jodha is, I too think, exactly what is going to happen.

As I wrote to Meghana above, in Jalal's reaction to Jodha, there is one thing on the surface - his being attracted to her because of her beauty and because she does not fawn on him - and there is a different undercurrent as well, of which he is not conscious as of now. That is the strange pull that dragged him on a very dangerous mission into Amer, and this when he had not even seen her.

Right now, he will be more and more angry with her for the immediate future, and I am waiting to see when it dawns on him that what he wants is not her. Not the possession of her, legally or physically even, for if he sought the latter, she, as a dutiful, wedded wife, will not refuse her husband that intimacy. What he will want is for her to want him, in the sense of caring for him, even if the idea of love is very long in coming.

Now he can, soon enough, command her dutiful obedience in all acceptable things. but not her respect and her caring. This will gnaw at him, and we shall see how he handles that entirely unfamiliar situation. This exactly where your uncle's wisdom comes in. No one can protect him from that sense of deprivation that will eat away at him from within. It is going to be very interesting.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: skanda12

Shyamala:

Awesome post again! 👏👏👏What a read! It brings back the night's episode in sharp focus on the morning after ... and you cover every nuance of it!
One thing that I want to ask you about: I thought Jalal had planned that Jodha would not live in the harem but would get her own mahal? So how come she has been housed in the harem?
I am assuming that we have to imagine:
a. Her own mahal is not yet ready (nor her mandir yet)
b. We viewers, via Jodha's eyes, are getting to be shown the real insides of the harem and its politics in the duration that Jodha stays there
c. We are going to have confrontations between Jodha and Ruqqaiya (self-styled harem Field Marshal)
And after a taste of all this we will see perhaps Jodha sashaying to her own mahal?
Is this what you think will happen? Or have the creative conveniently forgotten the separate mahal thing?
Okay one more thing: that bedroom scene of Jalal. Just see this sentence Jalal says to Jodha and then tranverse it and apply it to him. He says "I like seeing that fear of me in your eyes. No one can protect you from me".
Now when he says it, it is his forewarning to her! Just imagine the same words said to him instead. That is the TRUTH! He hates seeing that fear of him in her eyes. And no one can protect him from her!
I used to have a very wise old uncle who revelled in turning things people said against them and he would very often use the same logic as I have done above to show that it is no accident that certain words slip out of certain mouths at certain times. And that very often the truth could be found by simply reapplying the words of the speaker against himself!
Yesterday I remembered that uncle!

Edited by sashashyam - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Just for curiosity sake Shyamala aunty, do you get enough sleep? How can you already be up after only a few hours???? I need a full 8-10 hours and even then I'm grumpy in the mornings...But you seem to be so cheerful and awake based on your posts at least...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Sonya,

It is because I am so fond of all of you that this posting till 2:30 am and then responding the next day is beginning to become an addiction.

I too am an 7-8 hour sleeper, and for the past 2 weeks, I am getting only 4 or max 5 hours, and that in the wrong part of the night. I also have my own international affairs reading and writing to do during the day plus household affars, so no wonder I am beginning to feel washed out! Plus, I have a wonky left wrist that acts up under too much strain.

So, pretty soon, I will crash out if I do not take a 2/3 episode break, as I used to do before the last week.

But yes, when I am up and writing, I am cheerful because I enjoy it so much. If I did not, I would quit, as I did in my 3 earlier forums. So let us see how long I last here! Till the end, I hope, because I really love you bright young people.This is unquestioanbly the most enjoyable of all the forums I have seen.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: SonyaBlade

Just for curiosity sake Shyamala aunty, do you get enough sleep? How can you already be up after only a few hours???? I need a full 8-10 hours and even then I'm grumpy in the mornings...But you seem to be so cheerful and awake based on your posts at least...

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Posted: 12 years ago
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I am glad you liked this, my dear Khush, and the title above all. I too thought it was very neat!

If I was Jalal, I would have ignored the underlying taunt in Jodha's song and clapped at the end, which would have spiked her guns. Just as she would have scored over Jalal at that breakfast scene if she had not looked so standoffish and not even tried to be a dutiful wife, which she claims to be, and failed to help her incapacitated patidev till her maid prompts her. She should have done it at once, but with the calm, visible detachment of a nurse tending to a patient. That would have spiked his guns. She is petulant and sulky instead, which is a pity.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: -Khush-

Again ! Lovely post !

So someone understands the precap like me ! Lol
Those last lines of jodha singing there is no cheat- deciet in Rajput blood is an indirect insult to Mughals and I think Jalal will be more angry since she does this in front of all !
I loved jodha today as much as Jalal since today she didn't go hyper or so and quietly fed him and helps him keeping her hatred aside behaving with dignity and sincerity ! 👍🏼 plus the tent scene obviously ! She was a true queen worthy of Jalal today ! ;)
Lol but Jalal acting it out was a total shocker ! I thought he was showing off how he can use a sword with a hurt arm until he clenched his hands and motibai clarified it was a facade ! 😆

I Love your title a lot today hahaha !

Let's see what Jalal does for the Mughal insult ! Sigh !

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Posted: 12 years ago
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By now, you must have been so used to my 'lovely post aunty' comment...but, I just can't help but laud you for the efforts you put in to dole out such brilliant posts...

I have to give it to jodha for reasoning it out with jalal...and have to applaud jalal for not only accepting her reasons, but for appreciating them as well...by the way, a menacing tone told jodha that 'apko humse kaun bachayega...koi nai'...I am surprised that jodha didnt run away...I would have surly made an attempt...😉

The chicken round goes to jalal...a very smart move indeed...one point to jalal...and, he rubbed salt to injury...

Hamida bano was very gentle...jalal was so amused...jodha can sigh in relief...

The harem scene was good enough to throw the new bride in disarray...bickering, quarrelling and what not...

Precap - May be, may be(if its not one of those misleading precap) this round goes to jodha...

Kudos to our lead actors!!!👏

P.S. - the praying scene (yes, again) was nicely done...

Edited by Super Kool - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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amazing post aunty 👍🏼n Bhagwan Das is there in the precap while jodha was singing the song in the court 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I have been reading your posts from 2 days and cannot stop writing . Love your writing and ur analysis . I have been waiting to read ur analysis as much am waiting for the show. Keep writing ...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I keep trying to find words to properly describe the awesomeness that are your posts. But I fail. Hence, I will just say that this is a wonderful analysis, and I loved it even more than the last one. I do not have much to add, but I would like to take a moment to applause the CVs, who kept in mind that Jalal did not consider himself legally wed to Jodha, not before the nikah, and they postponed the Suhaag Raat. Good on them. Also, the production quality has strangely improved with these one hour episodes it seems. 😊
I don't what I am going to do when it is back to half an hour from the next week.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Aunty brilliant job as always.. I wait eagerly for your post cause I think if there is no post from you on certain day's episode, surely the epi lacked in many ways.. 😊.. Though I am quite happy with the pace of the show now but I don't want anymore the amer fillers if there is no enough reason to show them.😕. And I am disgusted with Ekta's MP. how can she be so casual in choosing the actors for Rajput characters???..He, not a bit looks like a prince and Rajput.. The dialogue delivery is miserable than Hamida banu..no pause in between ,no holds on the character.. The way he ordered to destroy the place where sujamal stepped his feet, funniest one.Seems like Ekta doesn't want to deprive us from a little comedy tadka everyday..😆..I dare to hope that he at least doesn't play childish act with swords like amer princess...I really liked the little surprise in jalal's eyes when Jodha bows down to hamida banu to take her blessings..It was a very new gesture to him. And a consistent amusement and joy of winning when his mother lauds Jodha's beauty.....Ruqaiyaa is being smarty and overconfident.,Though at this point it is justified as till now her place is intact despite of presence of many beautiful women in harem.But as soon she becomes aware of her new threat as better for her.

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