Jodha Akbar 23: The heart prevails - Page 6

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Dear Suvi,

I am glad you liked this long post, and I want to touch on only one of your comments below, for I agree with all the rest.

In the prison scene, Jalal is not swayed by his mother's pleas, even though he says in the end that he is letting them off (unless they are caught in a day within the Mughal borders) for his Ammijaan's sake. As I wrote in ,my Law of Gravity post on that episode, he does that because he is half afraid of the baddua making him childless. I had there said:

It is this last that halts Jalal in his tracks, for like most sceptics, he is not firm in his disbelief. I for one cannot understand why a 21 year old (or less) is so worried about not having a child yet. He has at least 40 years more to get himself some. But he seems as obsessed with the idea as a TV soap bahu after a decade of childlessness.

As for the latest scene, as I have noted in one of my responses above here,. it was a very very tough call for him personally, given his almost umbilical bond with his Khan Baba for all his life so far, plus his unusual trait of gratitude, so uncommon in kings, and he has a lot to be grateful for to Bairam Khan. If was a question of going to war, he would have made a decision in an instant. He consults these three women because he cannot discuss this matter with his Ministers, and there is no one else left.

Shyamala Aunty

Ela my dear,

Thank you so much. I agree with you so often that it makes life simple for me; I do not have to do anything much at all!

BK is talking of baghawat to his henchman even before he storms into the Diwan-e-Khas, remember? And after that meeting, he raves and rants to his poor wife about Jalal learning a lesson. So this is what it was, apparently, till an epiphany dawned on him out of the blue. But when it dawns on him, his reaction is absolutely genuine. In that sense he is far better than Mahaam Anga.

As for Ammijaan supporting the Khan Baba. that woman's thought processes defeat me. She does not think like an Empress at all, and seems to have no notion of the imperatives of State power and of governance. I can now understand how Humayun managed to fall to his death on those library stairs. He must have been running away from yet another of her homilies, delivered in that whining voice and with that Saridon ad face that set my teeth on edge!😉

As for Jodha and that chunari for Motibai, to be fair to her. she does not know that the Malika-e-Hind is there at all, though I would not put it past her to do the same even if she had known it!

Your comment about the factories is spot on.No Mughal princess would hang around bazaars like this,it is ridiculous. The brocades and the jewels for a queen would have been sent to the palace,whether it was Ruqaiya Sultan Begum or Marie Antoinette (before 1793, of course!).

Shyamala

Originally posted by: elasingh

Lovely write up...I fail to understand why suddenly BK is going for bagawat...Everything was fine till yesterday...I think they have fastforwarded the episode.

I think Ammijaan is supporting BK becoz she knows that he wont harm Jalal but MA will...She doesnt want Jalal to be alone...

It was funny that Jodha could insult Mughals by giving chunari to Motibai in front of Jala's chief begum and get away with it...In reality she would have been arrested and put behind the bars...

Moti bai has a big mouth.

Mughals didnt buy things from the shop ...They had their own factories where every thing was produced as per the demands...

I wonder who writes dialogues for Suryabhan...He sounds like an idiot.

The only regal thing abt this show is Jalal.

Thanks a lot, my dear!

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: sorcha

Wow. Absolutely loved the reading! Can't write much, since I am in class right now...But as always, your post is very much appreciated! 👍🏼.

Dear Rose,

I am so very glad that you understood that part perfectly. It is vital for understanding Jalal. I agree completely with you about Jodha.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose

Wow Aunty, I loved your analysis. Especially your insight into Jalal's lonliness.. He is a lost soul surrounded by darkness.. and Jodha has been overfed with the 'goodie-goodie' part. She knows nothing about what it feels to be surrounded with not-so-good people.

My dear, I am delighted that you liked this post so much.

As for BK's epiphany, I agree completely with your perceptive take on it, especially @blue. However, you might also like to see charminggenie's excellent interpretation and my comments on hers, a couple of pages earlier in this thread.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: Stargirl06

Lovely, ma'am. 👏 Your writing never fails to amaze me. And for people who are commenting about the sudden change in BK's attitude, I have a theory. I feel that BK, in a way, wanted Jalal to take charge, to reach a decision. And when he realized that Jalal will decide to wage a war against him, he was resigned to his fate. BK realized he could not go to war against the little boy he raised up to be a king. Such a stunning scene between them. I loved how BK looked vaguely proud of Jalal and his ability to make up his mind. Jalal is such a wonderfully nuanced and unique hero.

My dear Leelu,

You spoil me, my dear! Thanks ever so ,much!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: leelu0001

thank you ma'am for this very lovely update I find them more interesting then the episode itself

My dear,

You are absolutely right when you say that no one can change what is not there to begin with, which is why I detest this haiwaan to insaan rubbish.

As for the riff on my all time favourite novel, Pride and Prejudice, I loved it. However, you would remember that in the book, the assignment of pride and prejudice between Elizabeth and Mr. Darcy works both ways. It could be the same here too.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: mysterieux

Thank you so much for your post! I loved reading it :)

I think you made a good point that Akbar always had a heart if he did not then he would never have been shaped into the king he was/or will be in the show. He showed that when he dealt with Zaheer, when he dealth with that runaway couple...he may have listened to his mother but if he was all ruthless he would never had heed her...you can never change what is not there..

As far the rest of it I find it fascinating that destiny plays her hand unaffected by sensibilities...Jodha hated the ver y man she would marry and fall in love...MA, Ruq. Hamida begum all have importance in his life but are coveting the rule over his heart and mind equally to different degrees which they will never get...

I like jodha...how she is being played...she has pride, spunk, regality...that would match well with Rajat's Akbar. Her guile, her innocence, her pride are what made her stand apart..if she would have been worldly wise...then she would have accepted her fate in defeat ...as in life they made the prefect couple because she gave up her prejudice and ultimately accepted him and he gave up his pride and surrendered his heart...they both changed or will.

My name is Pratiksha 😊 Great to see your dedication to analyis even at that ungodly hour 😆I'm usually gazing the monitor with one eye closed with stubbornness egging me on to browse more interesting stuff before waking up to the usual rigmarole of preparations for higher studies 🥱

Dear Pratiksha,

What a coincidence! I have repeatedly said in several of my posts/comments here that the Parvati of DKDM would have been the ideal choice for Jodha, and now she is free too. I wrote then (and you will see how my assessment of this Jodha went down in a fortnight!):

Have you seen the Parvati of DKD Mahadev.? I could not help thinking that she would have made a splendid Jodha, but of course she would not be available. Bar her, this one seems to be a good choice, she has a serene dignity and occasionally a lot of sweetness, and then her troubled look when Jalal's face haunts her was very well done. (June 30)

I personally do not feel that this Jodha looks regal. She is too short and not at all lissom, and while she is good at some scenes, like those at the Bhanpur palace, I do not like her when she attempts anger and glares, and at times she looks almost plain. It is a pity they could not have got the Parvati of Devon ke Dev Mahadev - she is statuesquely beautiful, really beautiful, and regal in her every movement. She has now left DKDM, but when they started this one some months back, she would not have been available, more is the pity, She is very young too, only 20. Well, I suppose we will have to manage with what we have got. At least they were lucky in their Akbar! (July 15)

Your caustic comments on Jodha are delightful. I hope that Motibai is not lugged across to Agra as well, for I do not want to look at her any more!

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: gurl-enchanted

My name is Pratiksha 😊 Great to see your dedication to analyis even at that ungodly hour 😆I'm usually gazing the monitor with one eye closed with stubbornness egging me on to browse more interesting stuff before waking up to the usual rigmarole of preparations for higher studies 🥱

I do find Lavina the better actress, but I'm not liking her portrayal of Ruqaiya. Where is the friendly banter between the she and Jalal? The tenderness and comfort of childhood association? It's like she is half in the background these days, as dispensable as the weird Begum of Adham Khan whose nonstop blabber made me go like this - 😕 Unless, Lavina or the creatives, whoever is to blame here, steps up and builds on the character, the charm will vanish soon (if it hasn't already).

The less said about the costumes the better... Looks like they have only worked on Ruqaiya's and Jalal's costumes. Jodha dresses like her maid. Maybe it won't make her look so plain if she added on the glamour. Lol, I would trade her anyday if Sonarika takes on the role of Jodha (Parvati from Devon ke Dev) She is a beautiful actress, and regal to boot! And available, last time I checked.

I guess we can only make our assumptions regarding BK. IMO, the creatives don't have the same grasp of the characters as viewers. We are just interpreting it as we see fit, which is just making their work easier. Their dialogues are lovely, but the character sketch is...well, sketchy 😆Everyone does something completely out of character for no reason in this show. It is much more comforting to just make excuses for the inconsistencies and persevere.

I'm aware of the historical aspect of the story. They have modified that, maybe to save on the expense of another war or to show Jalal's enormous affection for his Walid. Poor Akbar - in reality he battled his own Walid and then his son Jahangir. Must be quite the blow. But then Jahangir had to battle his own son as well, so I guess Karma works 😆

Hamida has been portrayed extremely ... what's the term.. vanilla? There are no layers to his character as far as I've seen in both the movie and the show.

Hello Aunty (I can call you so, right?😛)😊

It was all my pleasure!😃

I was at severe loss of ideas while pondering over a 'something different' id and thus this one, borrowed from the Sonnets. 😆 And you found that fascinating...😳

Actually wanted to tell you that I have turned into a huge fan of yours overnight.😛
Had fun going through your previous analysis...😃 but couldn't appreciate them even with a mere like, awfully curt may it seem, but trust me the LIKE tab was throwing tantrums at me😡 and I couldn't manage to woo that!🤢

You're the gem of a writer!👏

I would be waiting for the next post from your pen.😊

Originally posted by: sashashyam

My dear,

What an absolutely fascinating id you have! Shakespeare's Dark Lady of the sonnets, no less!

Thank you so much for your very warm comments about this post. It was thoughtful of you to provide those clarifications about Bhaidooj and Yamadwitiya; I have learnt something interesting now thanks to you.

Yes, Ruqaiya has now got a rain check from Mahaam Anga for doing what she would have had to do in any case. Neat!

Shyamala B.Cowsik