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Posted: 12 years ago
'Strong polarising influences' gets it absolutely right! And I am glad you agree with me about the unfortunate tendency to paint Jalal too dark just to amplify Jodha's later role in changing him for the better.

Today too, in the scene between Hamida Banu and Sheikh Salim Chisti (it was with his blessings that Salim was born to Akbar and Jodha much later), her constant refrain that Jalal is cruel and grasping, going so far as to say that he defames Islam, was ridiculous. What does she think father in law Babur did in his time? And when Humayun was gentle with his adversaries, what happened to him and to her and to Jalal? Every ruler has to be harsh at times to maintain control, for the greater benefit of all his subjects. The Mughal empire, just recently recovered thanks to Bairam Khan and Jalal, is not a nursery school!😉

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: blahblahs

Sashashyam,


I couldn't agree more! I was also a little surprised with this director's portrayal of Jalal. He does indeed seem unrealistically cruel. As far as Jodha is concerned, she also seems to be some sort of a "guardian angel." For example, she approached her father--a King--to break off her marriage with Suryabhan for her the sake of her sister's infatuation. That struck me as being overly "mahan."

Anyhow, I think the director's trying to point out how confused Jalal really was due to the strong, polarized influences of Maham Anga and Bairam Khan. He was sad, deprived of love; this very loneliness resulted in cruelty and made him the frenetic warrior he was ie. chopping of soldiers' heads.

Let's now see how the director develops the character further!

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Posted: 12 years ago
Finally! Thank u so much for this post as it was really needed. Some of the people act like they are RTs fan but they actually are not! Very well written post...
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Posted: 12 years ago
You are very welcome, my dear. I am glad you feel this post helped.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: Ashvikfever

Finally! Thank u so much for this post as it was really needed. Some of the people act like they are RTs fan but they actually are not! Very well written post...

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Posted: 12 years ago
I fully enjoyed reading your post, and I just came back from commenting on your last one, a great analysis of Jalal! For once, I love ekta's hero! He is not weak, yet the strength is not the only thing to gloat about him! He has so many layers, and rajat plays that part to perfection. I don't know what perfection is, but he is doing one hell of a Job! His and Mahaam anga's characters have especially caught my eyes! Such brilliantly crafted characters, and such brilliant acting by both the actors!
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Posted: 12 years ago
Thank you, my dear, I am so pleased that we think alike on all this.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: coolpixie

I fully enjoyed reading your post, and I just came back from commenting on your last one, a great analysis of Jalal! For once, I love ekta's hero! He is not weak, yet the strength is not the only thing to gloat about him! He has so many layers, and rajat plays that part to perfection. I don't know what perfection is, but he is doing one hell of a Job! His and Mahaam anga's characters have especially caught my eyes! Such brilliantly crafted characters, and such brilliant acting by both the actors!

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Posted: 12 years ago
I just an interview of the starcast of JA and Ekta. She said very explicitly that she wants a different kind of Jalal. She said that from her personal research, she was intrigued by the fact that Jalal had so much power (he was the emperor of Hindustan!!) at the young age of 22. So, he had issues with concepts such as trust and love. He did not quite grasp these concepts or even experience them fully. He was constantly under political influence and that's the reason behind RT's sardonic smile. Ekta also said that her interpretation of Jalal is that of an all-powerful, overly confident young boy who has TREMENDOUS power but does not quite know how to handle it all. Therefore, he has become cruel--not out of choice, but out of necessity.

Feel free to analyze Ekta's responses!
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Posted: 12 years ago
Very interesting. No wonder we are having this Jalal-the-Jallad pushed down our throats willy nilly, and now it appears that there is no hope of a reprieve if this is what the Boss Woman wants.

What does she mean by saying that he does not understand trust? He trusts both his mentors implicitly, and that is a large part of his problems, not the absence of trust. He does love Mahaam Anga. As for romantic love, he has had women throwing themselves at him ever since he got out of the Mughal era equivalent of short pants, so that would be difficult for him to find, for they all have the same agenda, to use him to get influence.and power. No wonder he is cynical about love. Most rich bachelors are, in any age.

As Ekta is the boss, she can safely talk thru her hat and no one will dare to contradict her. The male characters in her soaps are invariably supine wimps, manipulated and used by dominating women masquerading as tyaagis.She cannot do that with Jalal, so she is probably going to the other extreme for the present. What I fear is that soon her other archetype, the gold plated female, will appear, in the form of Jodha, and will so thorougly reform the bad boy that he will become a supine wimp too.

I shall then invoke Emperor Jalaluddien Mohammed Akbar's shade to rise from his grave in Sikandra, and lop off Ekta's head with one fell sweep of his shamsheer!😉

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: blahblahs

I just an interview of the starcast of JA and Ekta. She said very explicitly that she wants a different kind of Jalal. She said that from her personal research, she was intrigued by the fact that Jalal had so much power (he was the emperor of Hindustan!!) at the young age of 22. So, he had issues with concepts such as trust and love. He did not quite grasp these concepts or even experience them fully. He was constantly under political influence and that's the reason behind RT's sardonic smile. Ekta also said that her interpretation of Jalal is that of an all-powerful, overly confident young boy who has TREMENDOUS power but does not quite know how to handle it all. Therefore, he has become cruel--not out of choice, but out of necessity.


Feel free to analyze Ekta's responses!

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Very interesting. No wonder we are having this Jalal-the-Jallad pushed down our throats willy nilly, and now it appears that there is no hope of a reprieve if this is what the Boss Woman wants.

What does she mean by saying that he does not understand trust? He trusts both his mentors implicitly, and that is a large part of his problems, not the absence of trust. He does love Mahaam Anga. As for romantic love, he has had women throwing themselves at him ever since he got out of the Mughal era equivalent of short pants, so that would be difficult for him to find, for they all have the same agenda, to use him to get influence.and power. No wonder he is cynical about love. Most rich bachelors are, in any age.

And what is it with 'cruel by necessity' because he cannot handle so much power? What, if anything, does this mean? Cruel rulers are so either because they like being cruel, or because they are weak and can exert control only thru brutality. A tremendously powerful ruler can afford the luxury of being more easy-going.

Anyway, seeing the kind of stuff Ekta dishes out usually, Jodha Akbar seems a near miracle, and I hope that she is not about to ruin this as well with such potty theories.

As Ekta is the boss, she can safely talk thru her hat and no one will dare to contradict her. The male characters in her soaps are invariably supine wimps, manipulated and used by dominating women masquerading as tyaagis.She cannot do that with Jalal, so she is probably going to the other extreme for the present. What I fear is that soon her other archetype, the gold plated female, will appear, in the form of Jodha, and will so thorougly reform the bad boy that he will become a supine wimp too.

I shall then invoke Emperor Jalaluddien Mohammed Akbar's shade to rise from his grave in Sikandra, and lop off Ekta's head with one fell sweep of his shamsheer!😉

Shyamala B.Cowsik

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Very interesting. No wonder we are having this Jalal-the-Jallad pushed down our throats willy nilly, and now it appears that there is no hope of a reprieve if this is what the Boss Woman wants.

What does she mean by saying that he does not understand trust? He trusts both his mentors implicitly, and that is a large part of his problems, not the absence of trust. He does love Mahaam Anga. As for romantic love, he has had women throwing themselves at him ever since he got out of the Mughal era equivalent of short pants, so that would be difficult for him to find, for they all have the same agenda, to use him to get influence.and power. No wonder he is cynical about love. Most rich bachelors are, in any age.

As Ekta is the boss, she can safely talk thru her hat and no one will dare to contradict her. The male characters in her soaps are invariably supine wimps, manipulated and used by dominating women masquerading as tyaagis.She cannot do that with Jalal, so she is probably going to the other extreme for the present. What I fear is that soon her other archetype, the gold plated female, will appear, in the form of Jodha, and will so thorougly reform the bad boy that he will become a supine wimp too.

I shall then invoke Emperor Jalaluddien Mohammed Akbar's shade to rise from his grave in Sikandra, and lop off Ekta's head with one fell sweep of his shamsheer!😉

Shyamala B.Cowsik


O God, please not that is my worst nightmare that is what is going to happen to show to this show.😳 U echoed the same sentiments I have with EK shows. Both lovers fall in love. The bad guys turn good, and will start being "tayagi"because that what his lover wants. O God no..I am dreading if that will happen in this show or not. 🥱I followed EK's last show, and male lead was shown to sacrifice so many times with constant dragging tracks that I wanted to bloody smack EK. I had vowed not to watch EK's camp show again, look at me now. For the present thank God, I can breathe sigh of relief, but don't know how Miss. Kekta will do when Jalal fall in love with Jodha.🥱 I hope after all the backlash from her last historical show, she will prove me wrong.I mean judging it by so far, it seems she is kind of changing it. Crossing finger..
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Posted: 12 years ago
Sashashyam,

I do not quite think that Ekta will completely "slaughter" Jalal's character after his marriage to Jodha. Instead, I think she will (for the lack of a better term) "boost up" Jalal's character and reveal his real feelings. She will try to show that just like every human being, the great Emperor Akbar also has feelings and can experience love etc. I personally don't think that's a bad message to convey in this show. But that's just my opinion :)

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