Ekta's Emperor Jalaluddin Mohammed: an assessment - Page 13

Originally posted by: blahblahs

Sashashyam,

I do not quite think that Ekta will completely "slaughter" Jalal's character after his marriage to Jodha. Instead, I think she will (for the lack of a better term) "boost up" Jalal's character and reveal his real feelings. She will try to show that just like every human being, the great Emperor Akbar also has feelings and can experience love etc. I personally don't think that's a bad message to convey in this show. But that's just my opinion :)

A nice post! As far as rajat tokas is concerned, ive liked him in pritviraj chauhan, but this time the character he is playing is much more complex, and he is doing justice to that role, its a treat to watch him play it

Thank you. I agree completely; I had not seen him before, and it is a treat to watch his take on Jalal.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: cupid-struck

A nice post! As far as rajat tokas is concerned, ive liked him in pritviraj chauhan, but this time the character he is playing is much more complex, and he is doing justice to that role, its a treat to watch him play it

Originally posted by: sashashyam

I don't think he is going to become like Manav in Pavitra Rishta, the only other Ekta serial I watched, largely out of sheer habit and inertia, till I quit in disgust last month.He was a very great historical figure, and even with the longest disclaimer in living memory, Ekta cannot reduce him to those depths.

Still, the whole idea of Jodha reforming him and bringing him back to the light from the Stygian darkness in which he is shown as being now is far too much for me, and I do hope this aspect is toned down somewhat. That is the limit of my hopes!

As for showing that he has feelings, that is already evident from his interactions with Abdul, Mahaam Anga, Zaheer, Ruqaiya etc. over the last week. It is only the love part that remains, and I am always very doubtful as to what 'love' of this kind really means, especially in an all powerful man. In the ordinary world, love means, in the simplest terms, putting the loved one above yourself. I do not quite see how an emperor can do that, but let us see. All I ask is that this love should not rob him of dignity and majesty.

After all, it is only a TV serial that one can quit at any time, not a movie that one has to endure for its duration because one has paid for the tickets and the popcorn!

Shyamala B.Cowsik

PS: Please call me by my name - Shyamala (Di, Aunty or no suffix, as you choose), but not by my id, if you do not mind. If I knew yours, I would address you by that.

Aunty, so good to see you here missed you immensely in PR forum and your posts. Love how beautifully you've summed it all up.

Waneeka my dear,

How absolutely wonderful to see you here!

I am glad you like this one, which is 2 weeks old and not yet quite out of date, it seems, perhaps because it is an overall summation and assessment. I too have become very fond of this young man,. He fits this role to a T.

Yes, of course, you would never have read any of my standalone posts in the PR forum, for I had stopped writing any long back. Now I have stopped watching it as well Good riddance!!

Here], I have been around only for 2 weeks today, and this post was my first. Though I have not been able to post any standalone comments this last week, as I was travelling, I wrote about 3 episodes before that and I am giving the coordinates below. You will, I hope, like them as much as this one, for those episodes were very strong and dramatic. The numbers are those of the episode in question

I am assuming that you plan to catch up with all the 19 aired so far and then to watch Jodha Akbar regularly.

Here they are, these 3 posts, and more soon, I hope!

Shyamala Aunty

1) Jodha Akbar 10: Revelation!

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/86829406

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2) Jodha Akbar 12: Siyasat ki Jung

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/jodha-akbar/3652114/jodha-akbar-12-siyasat-ki-jung

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3)Jodha Akbar 13: Sheh, par mat nahin

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/jodha-akbar/3653462/jodha-akbar-13-sheh-par-mat-nahin

sashashyam:Posted: 04 July 2013 at 1:59pm | IP Logged

Originally posted by: ilovedhanjanird

Aunty, so good to see you here missed you immensely in PR forum and your posts. Love how beautifully you've summed it all up.

I am yet to catch up on the recent episodes because the other show I'm watching (the other baby swap one) is coming to an end this week so I will just replace it with JA.

Your writing is as usual flawless and beautiful, I got super excited when I saw your name as the TM.

P.S- Aunty, rajat is one of the finest actor television has. He is underrated but he is awesome.

My dear Sree,

What a perfectly apposite quotation! But of course whether life makes you bitter or wise depends on your own inner make up.

I do not .quite agree with you about Jalal, I do not think that Jalal is bitter, or even totally cynical, for if he had been so, he would not have cared so much for his relationships with the three key figures in his life. He gives his two mentors a lot of rope - though Mahaam Anga has not needed any as yet - and he genuinely cares for Ruqaiya. Normally, kings and emperors have a tremendous sense of entitlement and expect total loyalty and dedication to themselves as a matter of right. Jalal is not like that at all. See what he says of Bairam Khan (and Ruqaiya) Main inki badaulat hi to hoon! It is a very rare king or leader who will think like that.

He is as yet a work in progress, the sculptor being, not Jodha, but his own mind, and the genes he has inherited from his broadminded parents, plus the political compulsions he has to deal with.

Let us see. Next week is going to be very exciting, as Bairam Khan has set out to prove the truth of the old adage Vinashakaale vipareetha buddhi, or the Western equivalent, that those whom the gods wish to destroy, they first make mad!

Shyamala Di

Originally posted by: blahblahs

Shyamala Di,

Your comments about Manav/PR made me laugh. Haha. Now that we've seen more of Akbar and his personality as developed by Ekta, a quote from my English class comes to mind. It is from Candide by Voltaire.

Candide says to Martin: "You're a bitter man."

Martin replies: "That's because I've lived."

Though the quote is hilarious in the context of the book, I think it applies to Jalal as well. He is an embittered and sardonic person because of the way he's lived. He was never close to his mother, which is a significant loss to anyone. He never had any trustworthy friends (he had loyal servants, who I guess are not "friends") except Rukaiya. He was raised by MA and BK. I mean, I got to give him credit for not turning out to be a sick mixture of both of their personalities combined. Hehe. Anyways, I truly think that Akbar is the way he is b/c of the numerous psychological turmoils that he's gone through in life. It doesn't matter whether these kings/emperors lived hundreds of years ago. Human nature, afterall, is the same. Whether we compare the Romans and the Greeks, the kings of India or the modern man, human nature is still the same. Again, purely my opinion. BTW: my first name is Sree. So, you can call me that should you wish :)