Rangeela: Biased towards Salman and Karishma? - Page 6

Originally posted by: Y12345

Idk but Shan makes the most difficult choregraphy easy.He makes the steps look effortless. And maybe he got +1 bkz of difficulty level,dancing on live music isn't easy.

I think the choregraphy was complex,by the way I'm sure that was not Alisha choregraphy.

Don't jump to conclusion, Rangeela is Rangeela a drama queen so maybe they will go back to the saga Shan is underscored and Salman is overscored. Expect anything.

Originally posted by: -Sneha6-

Yup. Actually, speaking from experience of someone who doesn't even live in India, the two most famous names from all of DID are Shakti and Raghav. Sure, people know a lot of the other contestants, but these two have stuck up with workshops and dancing, and now Shakti with her studio so well, that they're recognized as being dancers. I think it's fabulous that you intermix movies/tv shows with dancing, but somewhere, that spark gets lost. Salman's lost the spark, not that I ever liked him anything much, but he was a good dancer. Those qualities are quick fading. I expected JDJ to get him back on track, but baring the last act, there's nothing he's done I can call phenomenal so far.

On a side note, I do admit that it's also unfair to compare directly with D+, sure. I think where I fail a lot of time is I watch D+ at night, shortly followed by JDJ. The latter becomes hardly tolerable because I tend to inadvertently compare the two, even though not on purpose. You immediately become biased towards the other one. They are two very different platforms I do acknowledge that. However, I guess I'm disappointed simply because when I knew Shantanu, Salman were going to be there, I expected acts similar to Tushar-Shakti or Punit-Lauren to be performed on the show. These two were amazing dancers/choreographers as well, but they still surprised me time and again. They competed with themselves, and not with other contestants. I still look up and watch some of their acts. Now these many weeks in, I have nothing I can say I specifically remember as an all-out all time great act from this season and that's a bummer.

Originally posted by: -Sneha6-

Of course he does. No one's denying it. Personally, I don't have an issue with Shan's dancing. KJo was so off beat on the whole 'clean finishing' thing. Shantanu has the cleanest moves ever. BUT - I have an issue with the choreography. D3 had heaps of better choreography. I still remember 'Alvida' to the dot. It was that awesome. The choreography can be complex, but this is Shantanu, he can do amazingly well. I would give so many performances from D3 a 30, because of the recall factor. It's simply the truth that no performance on JDJ so far is recallable 5 years from now, perhaps except Surveen's 'Barfi' act.

Shantanu is smooth no doubt, but then let's increase the difficulty factor. I want to see him do an aerial. I do agree however, with something he said on that IV not long ago. Say for eg Tap Dance. Neither he is familiar with it, nor is Alisha. So sometimes because of time constraint, they can't try new things that neither of them are aware of. But now that they have Nimit and Macy almost all the time with them, I'm sure the 4 of them can come up with more than just lyrical/hip hop/bollywood.

Originally posted by: LiveEatLove

I don't like speaking much on that woman but since you put her performances above Shantanu's, I have something to say. Shakti was extremely lucky to have a choreographer like Tushar.He is a fantastic dancer and a versatile choreographer unlike Alisha. Tushar I remember made Ekta Kaul deliver good performances also . Shakti was not shooting 12 hrs a day and then rehearsing for JDJ unlike Shantanu. Shakti left D3 as soon as Jhalak began. Shantanu has to rehearse for 2 acts in 4 days unlike previous seasons where 4 days were alloted for 1 act.

Shakti except that one hip hop act din't really go out of her comfort zone. She mostly did variants of contemporary . I remember they once did contemp and Chau and Tushar is a Chau specialist. Tushar is excellent with aerial also.

Originally posted by: Y12345

I agree,because Alisha herself is limited. Maybe they have limited time because Shan shoots from 8am to 9pm daily for this soap so they barely have time. And that's so true,they were even nominated for best choreo for Alvida. Yepp, D3 performances were epic and worth 30. Vrushan contemporary was far better than Alisha. And the pehla nasha dance was wow :P

Maybe it's Alisha the prob because have you seen Desi Hoppers finale act,the choreo was awesome and I know Shan can do better. I have seen him doing better in D3, and Amercia Got talent etc.

But now coming to Shan getting 30 this week, this is a competition so they have to compete with the other contestants,right? And compared to other people perfo,Shan deserved that 30 but compared to himself,he didn't deserve it. In short what I mean is that according to the level of competition,yes that 30 was okay,when he compete with others its fine but if he is competing with himself,then that 29 would have been okay :P

Originally posted by: -Sneha6-

Thank you. Especially at the last paragraph! Exactly my point. I love Maheswari, I started watching JDJ only for him this season, but being a fan shouldn't make you immune to the actual happenings of things. 👍🏼

Originally posted by: Y12345

Me too

Of course and Shan loves getting constructive critism ,he says that's how he improve :)

Originally posted by: -Sneha6-

And Alisha is extremely lucky to have a contestant like Shantanu. She should be working her ass off. We love the instagram/snapchat snippets and all of it, but at the end of the day, Shan's journey will be remembered by his JDJ performances. Can you honestly tell me people who don't know Shantanu, unlike us, his fans, have anything to remember from his performances thus far, say in a year from now? I don't know Shakti/Lauren personally, and to be honest, I neither avidly follow them personally nor do I care much, as I do for Shantanu for example. However, the truth remains that they've given some of the best performances that JDJ had ever seen. Heck, even Salman-Lauren as challengers had better 1 min choreographies than Salman does now.

Shantanu is a grown up, responsible performer in this industry. He chose to handle both shows at the same time, when Shakti didn't. Her life, her choice. Maybe she thought she ought to dedicate more time to her dancing, be it in JDJ or elsewhere. Who are we to judge whether she did right or wrong? We neither know the circumstances of her decision, nor the reason. Giving the reason that she gave better performances than Shantanu because of her personal decisions is just absurd. Siddhant I hear, quit his show to participate in JDJ as well. So? It's their decision to partake in. Shantanu could have quit his show as well, he chose not to because of the kind of person he is.

I have the utmost respect for Shantanu about how he handles things, and I know how much of a dedicated, talented individual he is. He's a gem, no doubt. But at the end of the day, this is a dance show. He is far more than what he's been performing right now, that's all I'm saying. And so is Salman by the way, who's off screen personality I completely dislike. Alisha isn't a pathetic dancer, in fact, she's as good as Shakti if she wants to be. And by the way, so was Jai. He was my favorite for years. Lazy choreography is unacceptable from their part, that's all I'm saying. Having a good/bad contestant is only part of the excuse. Punit and Tushar gave praise-worthy performances even with non-dancers, because they put thought in it. So did Bhavna and Shampa. Macy/Nimit know Shantanu out and out, for me, good choreography would be giving him something that challenges him, that brings out a side I haven't seen. I already know how awesome Shantanu is. I want to see how much further he can go. Isn't that what JDJ is about? Or did I mistake the purpose of this show?

Originally posted by: LiveEatLove

I mentioned Shakti quitting D3 coz of Jhalak to highlight the time factor. And time is a very big factor here. Shantanu doesn't get that amount of time to rehearse. Even with that little time he has delivered pretty good performances. 2 acts in one week with such less time, hats off to him.

Both my favourites Sushant and Shantanu din't quit their acting projects to do Jhalak. It doesn't make their passion for dancing any less or commitment to Jhalak any less. It showed their professionalism and dedication to whatever they took up and not let any project down. Shakti was ill during one round of Jhalak and dint even perform but Shantanu rehearsed and performed with high fever during face off. Forget sulking about it, he din't even mention about it.

General people on Colors FB page who had no clue about who Shantanu is before are pouring praises on him everyday. You should go and check it out for yourself. Especially his IGT act and also the Govinda act. I saw so manyyy tweets of viewers saying how the hell he was scored so low with such a good performance in the Govinda act. So many people who din't know who he is praised him so much after the face off. They saw a dancer of apt calibre who could give Salman a run for his money.

Also Shantanu is not performing for D3 fans. He had to start from scratch for Colors's viewers. I am glad he showed them how good he is in Hip hop, in Bolly, in contemp and yesterday he shot for an act where he did Robotics and hopefully more to come.

And why are we comparing Alisha with Shakti here? Comparison should be Alisha with Tushar.

It is the choreographer's duty to think of unique ideas and deliver. Anyways, it was Shakti's good luck and Shantanu's bad luck.

You think none of his acts are worth remembering... fair enough. I don't think Shakti is anywhere close to Shantanu's level of versatile dancing. Lets end this discussion here. I don't want to end up saying something nasty about Shakti and then her fans noticing and attacking me.😆

Originally posted by: -Sneha6-

Oh yeah, IF and its members attacking prowess at difference of opinions behind virtual screens. I see that hasn't changed in all these years. 😆

They're both differently versatile according to me. None is better than the other. They've got very different styles. I just expect a lot more from Shan being an ardent fan was all I meant. I see you like Sushant, so do I, which is what I meant when I said Shampa highlighted him. Shantanu's got a marvellous bunch of talented people helping him, it should show. It hasn't for me thus far baring one or two exceptional solo portions.

We'll end it here, sure. Peace out. Cheers, S. 👍🏼