Am I the only one disappointed? - Page 11

Originally posted by: -Zesty-

Ya... i fail to understand the point ...and i dont think i can understand even ... I am not the person for whom Independence day is any different from other days ...If i respect and love my country, i would do it all 365 days of year ...

If i listen to songs like baby doll everyday, i dont think why would it make a difference if i avoid it on Independence day ..

good for you , but ya this day is special to me as a person . It's not like some valentines day that I go and say that I love my dear ones everyday . Pleaseee...it's not a small day . Its our independence day . Woh din jis din hum apne desh ke un logo ko yaad karte who died for this independance . Aaj ke din se mostly Indians ko lagaaw hain . This day is celebrated all over country and feeling of patriotism specially on this day is sooo sooo mutual . Are you an Indian ? I haven't seen any Indian before this saying something like that in my whole life .So this came as a surprise to me . Itni bhaagti zindagi mein 2 din...bas 2 din Hi toh milte hain jab ruk kar peeche mudkar log yaad karte hain in sab Palo ko .This day means a lot ...atleast forrr me as an individual . How I see people dancing madly in front of me right here in my colony . How I see we have tears listening to those emotional lata Ji song . ...Aeee Mere watan ke logo ...zara aankh mein bhar lo paani ...joh shaheed huye hain unki ...Zara yaad Karo qurbani ...how I remember all the fights soldier did for his ...how I feel like watching everything related to my country ...I am always proud of my country but this particular day ...I am Suchhh a happy person ...Smilinggg...crying ...everything related to India ...Jaiii Hinddd...Bharat Mataaa Kiii Jaiii ...I will not continue furthur on this today ...aaj Ka din bahut bahut special Hainnn...and to all others who got disappointed with this. It's okay guys ...Saw DID promo and I am sure there will be many many shows today which will actually be tributes to our nation .Just give jhalak a skip today and watch the performances you wish to watch a bit later .

Originally posted by: SheDevil

it's OK.. but for me independence day is special just like ppl think their bday to be special. It was the day my nation freedom fighter got their due. It is my country bday toh yes it is special.. All 364 days I love India but on this day I heart my nation. It is special.. If ppl think their bday to be special toh Yeh toh mere free nation ka bday hai so it is spevial

PS- why JDJ evn showing Indian dance form agar Yeh Din itna special hi nhi and is same as other

I really don't mean to demean any celeb but if u take it as tht way I can't help it

i completelyyy agreee...banggg onnn

Originally posted by: EtherealRati

good for you , but ya this day is special to me as a person . It's not like some valentines day that I go and say that I love my dear ones everyday . Pleaseee...it's not a small day . Its our independence day . Woh din jis din hum apne desh ke un logo ko yaad karte who died for this independance . Aaj ke din se mostly Indians ko lagaaw hain . This day is celebrated all over country and feeling of patriotism specially on this day is sooo sooo mutual . Are you an Indian ? I haven't seen any Indian before this saying something like that in my whole life .So this came as a surprise to me . Itni bhaagti zindagi mein 2 din...bas 2 din Hi toh milte hain jab ruk kar peeche mudkar log yaad karte hain in sab Palo ko .This day means a lot ...atleast forrr me as an individual . How I see people dancing madly in front of me right here in my colony . How I see we have tears listening to those emotional lata Ji song . ...Aeee Mere watan ke logo ...zara aankh mein bhar lo paani ...joh shaheed huye hain unki ...Zara yaad Karo qurbani ...how I remember all the fights soldier did for his ...how I feel like watching everything related to my country ...I am always proud of my country but this particular day ...I am Suchhh a happy person ...Smilinggg...crying ...everything related to India ...Jaiii Hinddd...Bharat Mataaa Kiii Jaiii ...I will not continue furthur on this today ...aaj Ka din bahut bahut special Hainnn...and to all others who got disappointed with this. It's okay guys ...Saw DID promo and I am sure there will be many many shows today which will actually be tributes to our nation .Just give jhalak a skip today and watch the performances you wish to watch a bit later .

Uff this argument is going on n on n on. I will rather say who is intrested to see indian dance from along with tapoori n mujra on item song watch JDJ today or who only intrested in patriotic song act then watch VD n Scarlett act then change the channel i'm sure for them there will be many patroitic song act on others channels.they will not feel dissapointment.

@-zesty- I don't see everything else as an insult to my nation .But yes definitely I will not like people promoting a episode as independence day special and than show me item numbers there . They should have been careful about that .Or else don't promote as independence day . Why airing Vivian promo so frequently ????...why don't air those items songs promo ..why giving special thing to Vivian dance ...cause that's patriotic they have ...if they can't give a tribute. ...it's OK ...but giving this and calling it tribute , a big no for me .We as a country have been very rich in our culture and atleast this day should be given the deserved respect . I don't decide to become all patriotic this day , this just naturally happens to me .

Originally posted by: Pari-sona

Uff this argument is going on n on n on. I will rather say who is intrested to see indian dance from along with tapoori n mujra on item song watch JDJ today or who only intrested in patriotic song act then watch VD n Scarlett act then change the channel i'm sure for them there will be many patroitic act on others channels.

I agree , I will do the same .

Originally posted by: .Golu.

I feel the theme being MADE IN INDIA made it vast and open to many interpretations.

Made in India just doesn't mean Indian dance forms, neither does it mean only patriotic performances.

It means anything related to India. I feel Vivian and Scarlett's dances are real tribute to India on independence day while people doing kathak, bharatnatyam and other dance forms are showcasing various dance forms that originated in India.

But yes I don't understand how tapori comes under this? [:/] Isn't it very bollywoodish and lame? It is not even a fully recognised dance form [:/]

umm.. i dunno if this is 100% true.. but few months back I was following updates on Bombay velvet movie and as it was a movie about organized crime in post independence era, Tapori as I remember from documentaries of it originated in Mumbai..
Tapori language, dance etc is very much Indian...

There were people who were Tapori people.. though it was later used as lame item numbers in BW, it didn't originate in BW,, it originated on the streets of Mumbai..

An explanation

Tapori literally translates into vagabond or rowdy in Hindi. Street thugs in Mumbai were perhaps the most notable taporis. Their unique style of speaking Hindi was called tapori language. They also had a unique style of dressing, which they called as tapori style. Tapori culture though resented by many is widely imitated by many as humorous or comical. It has found acceptance in Bollywood films including "Rangeela", "Gol Mal", and "Chasme Buddoor".^[1] They are the equivalent of gangstas in Hollywood films.

Their style of speaking Hindi is a mixture of many languages spoken by people in Mumbai. It has words adapted mainly from Marathi, and some from Gujarati, Kannada, and Tamil. It also has a few Hindi words spoken by people of Bihar and eastern Uttar Pradesh due to heavy migration of these people to Mumbai city.

Tapori is an original Marathi word meaning "blossomed", fully fertile or at its peak in growth, which during its evolution/progression (towards the dark side) in the Marathi language started as its application to someone with high youth elements or budding hormones and subsequent behavior of that animal/humans to establish control, create mischief, attract attention of opposite sex and other such indulgences. Bollywood being in Maharashtra (a Marathi speaking state), it inherited that word into its Hindi vocabulary as a "cool-happening" style statement; all such similar words from Marathi used to be recognized in Marathi as Tapori language (i.e. words which were considered "not decent" to use in regular language and are mostly used by people who are deemed anti-social or with similar stature). All such words in Marathi got imported as-is into Bambaiya Hindi with additions from other local languages.

Changing social conditions in India have led to a shortage of work for educated lower middle-class young men.^[2] The rise of this archetype in Indian cinema in the 1990s and 2000s coincides with the real-life social phenomenon.^[1]

http://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?surname=tapori

Originally posted by: SheDevil

do u belong to India

I m saying uss dance form ko nautanki kehte hai.. Me not demeaning it.. I m from UP for God sake so I knw usko kya kahte hai and tht song lyrics r demeaning on this occasion listen to tht bhojpuri song 1st and iske alawa bahut decent bhojpuri song hai

And BW is not authentic Indian dance form

Kathak

Bharatnatyam

Bhangra

Dandiya

Garba

Mujra

Bihu

are authentic Indian dance form

just a quick question.

Where did BW dance originate? I think though it is not classical dancing as this is originated in India and nowhere else I think Scarlet and Ashish can get away with it.. It doesn't have to have originated 100s of yrs back for it to be Indian..

As we were talking on that other topic Colors CVs suck.. they simply gave a too broad definition which means those choreos of Ashish and Scarlet are not exactly wrong either.. so they will get away with it..

And these guys performed on last wednesday - no1 is aware if their act is aired on 15th or 16th.. and they simply followed the broad theme given to them.. to maximize their own chances at getting a good score by playing up to their best strengths..

Originally posted by: EtherealRati

by god , you aren't getting the point at all .Its not about that there is some problem with Baby doll or lagawe lipistic...both are very popular songs and both have been performed million times and nobody raised voice .Its okay to perform on item numbers . . But its our independence day , and they are promoting jhalak giving tribute to my country . And then using item numbers to give trubute ...is desh mein itne ache gaane hain but certain choreographers choosed this for a day like independence day . And as an Indian I am truly disappointed . That's all what tm is trying to say from post 1 . We are not here to put anyone down , please try and understand .

yaar jab last week usne choreos ko theme dia tha, woh bola tha - 'made in India dance forms' and usne us par based performances kia..
And after they performed what colors idiots package it is not the fault of the choreographers who went ahead and worked on the theme they were given a week before!

if VD has not done Patriotic dance they can make use for advertise, knowing the cheap channel u can bet they wouldn't have mentioned anything independence related at all!
but now they got the chance to actually add that element too thanks to him and Bhavna giving that nice performance they r using it to advertise to get a whole different audience interested in it. Thus confusing the initial theme they gave out last week,,

Originally posted by: princessunara

just a quick question.

Where did BW dance originate? I think though it is not classical dancing as this is originated in India and nowhere else I think Scarlet and Ashish can get away with it.. It doesn't have to have originated 100s of yrs back for it to be Indian..

As we were talking on that other topic Colors CVs suck.. they simply gave a too broad definition which means those choreos of Ashish and Scarlet are not exactly wrong either.. so they will get away with it..

And these guys performed on last wednesday - no1 is aware if their act is aired on 15th or 16th.. and they simply followed the broad theme given to them.. to maximize their own chances at getting a good score by playing up to their best strengths..