there will never be another madhuri - Page 6

Originally posted by: xaneroyxx

my impression of sanjay leela bhansali has totally changed after following JDJ- Madhuri is impeccable and her talent is simply out of reach. she's simply a land mark. others can try, they can form their own niche. they can never be her, comparisons are futile and naiive.

SLB was under the effect of medicines ( sedatives he took for his viral fever) when he said that...it a known fact that such drugs make u delusional!😉

Originally posted by: dreamrose175

does the same not apply to u and everyone who is arguing this topic and xaneroyzz's views?!!! "xaneroyzz" just posted HIS OPINION on what he thought about the situation.

If you are telling xaneroyzz that it was SLB's opinion and that xaneroyzz should stop "harrassing" the judges opinion aren't u doing the same to xaneroyzz's opinion?! an opinion is not a fact. please stop shooting down people opinions and perspectives. i am not against debating issues or topics in a healthy way but u are doing exactly the same as what u told xaneroyzz not to do and certainly are not "debating" the issue.

no not at all. im jus stating his opinion n i am telling xaneroyzz that to not try n harass it. but anyways me an xaneroyzz got our problem solved so y r u buttin in?😆 I am definitlly not harassing his opinion coz he shouldnt even be making an opinion from wat a judge has made.

Wow!! Its nice to see how people could take up debating one's statement. However let just post my reply to one of the fellow "posters/fans" in a related post- I wouldn't want to call it an argument before I start to make some clarifications.
-This was a response when they called Mona Fans Hypocrites..bearing in mind ..a fan or not..everyone is entitled to their own opinion and that NEVER calls for name calling.
"Okay for some reason you are pointing fingers and calling names without having read whats been posted thoroughly. Im not a fan of neither of them. I'm expressing my opinion on the way the judges function in general in the show. I also made comparisons with the akashdeep incident. I understand your sentiments being a fan and I definetly did not mean to offend them. I agree shveta is a great dancer, yet in my opinion its rather biserk to comparel anyone even the best in the movie industry today and there are lots to madhuri. moreover, I also believe that it would be unfair of a so called certified panel of judges to have personal favorites or make decisions on anything other than talent, to not encourage progress, baring in mind that most of these people started with no dancing back ground. So before you would call people names and fire back I advise you to look deeper into the meaning of the posts and not take things personally as the forum is a platform for viewers to express themselves in a 'civil' manner. "

Best, Xaneroy

So miss cutie a) I didn't feel bad, I was just hoping to enlighten you on the mode of conduct, hoping that everyone could be civilized while discussing their opinion. b) I know people could make assumptions from a nickname and this is irrelevant, but xaneroyxx is a HER! 😊 . c) I still won't put any one next to Madhuri like i said people could try..even Aishwarya did, she's an awesome dancer..but in dola re in devdas it really shows who's got the upper hand..and if any of you has spent time doing their research during the making of the movie they would have discovered that Aish had trouble keeping up with Madhuri according to Saroj jee. we have great actresses who are great dancers..I find Urmila really good, we can not strip them away from their talent and effort. It definetly has to be recognized. Why do you think so many people attacked Sharukh khan for attempting to replicate AB's golden moment 'Don' (im a great fan of srk btw) because Amitabh is a genre in his own, just like sharukh is a genre on his own..he made a different type of success but comparisons are irrelevant. and that is exactly what surprised me from a so called veteran like SB who calls everyone BABY on the show..when did they become your BABY how close is your personal relationship with them? or are some your babies and some are not? it would be understandable if he went like during this dance i saw glimpses of Madhuri in you..but he makes it a constant comment, which I truly believe is biserk. Shveta is a great dancer, very mouldable to all styles and with training i think she could make it big, not Madhuri big. As for the kunal k analogy its true..he's a great singer, even Himesh the singer of the populus won the filmfare award..my question is has any of them reached mohd rafi ji's calibre, of kishore da's popularity? I think not! so you guys are making some good points and they are comprehensible bearing the sentiments fans hold for whoever they are cheering for. Mona did progress, and she definetly has her flaws..when i said Farah is nip picking at her i meant that she's not being as technically iffy with shveta as she is with mona, and honestly competition apart, if it was me this would give the drive to become a better dancer, if i was being "babied" all the time..god madhuri lagti hai..blah blah..id gain a bogus confidence , it might push you to do better but just for reasons of competition. and any one who has competed on any level in any sport knows this very well.
with that being said..you can argue and debate as long as you want to, but there are certain happenings in the entertainment business that you have no control over. and as for this competition its your votes that count, so invest your energy in voting 😊
Best,
Xaneroy

Originally posted by: xaneroyxx

I also believe that it would be unfair of a so called certified panel of judges to have personal favorites or make decisions on anything other than talent, to not encourage progress, baring in mind that most of these people started with no dancing back ground.

I dont think they are biased towards Shveta...Everyone can see that Shveta dances so well,they are only giving her the deserved credit...

I gathered this from your post(pardon me if I misconstrued you)...COuld you elucidate more on what you mean by "not encouraging profress"...Does that mean that the judges arent encouraging Mona's progress by praising shveta..If that was indeed what you had meant,then arent you saying that Shveta shouldnt be given credit for her performance...arent praises too confidence boosters...

and that is exactly what surprised me from a so called veteran like SB who calls everyone BABY on the show..when did they become your BABY how close is your personal relationship with them? or are some your babies and some are not? it would be understandable if he went like during this dance i saw glimpses of Madhuri in you..but he makes it a constant comment, which I truly believe is biserk.

a small question...Dont you think Sanjay would have personally SEEN madhuri dancing for dola re,and for maar daala...Some of us have only seen the making,he has been there all through...SO doesnt he have a better knowledge of how exactly Madhuri dances,and thus cisnt he in a POSITION to compare,because he has seen both personally...

my question is has any of them reached mohd rafi ji's calibre, of kishore da's popularity? I think not!

no,kunal and himesh havent reached that landmark,but who knows,In future there can be other singers who can be as good as kishore kumar or Modh rafi.....KK and MR are all time greats,no doubt,but in the future there can be another all time great also,cant there??..Thus saying that in this world,no one can ever sing better than KK isnt going down too well with me....Same with the likes of MAdhuri and sridevi...

when i said Farah is nip picking at her i meant that she's not being as technically iffy with shveta as she is with mona,

Could you point out some flaws in Shveta,which farah didnt..because since you're saying that Farah didnt nitpick on Shveta,kindly also list out what all farah missed..that would help

and honestly competition apart, if it was me this would give the drive to become a better dancer, if i was being "babied" all the time..god madhuri lagti hai..blah blah..id gain a bogus confidence , it might push you to do better but just for reasons of competition.

Constant belittling too doesnt do any good to one's confidence....When someone is genuinely good,there is nothing wrong in applauding ...The onus is on Shveta,that she remains grounded and not let all the compliments get to her head,which she has,as she has hardly fallen in her performance...

everyone plz make a vote in the poll titled "who do u think will win"

its to estimate who has more chances shveta or mona

Originally posted by: Buffie

Dude,when svetha is calumniated by the mona fans,when she is caled a "jealous looser",a "bad human being",do you expect us to take all this s**t and be as cool as a cucumber😕...the mona fans are so sensitive,that they offended even if mona is called "fat"...but how fair is it to expect all svetha fans to tranquilly take all the character annihiliation...you yourself did say svetha was jealous,do you expect us to take all this crap said to belittle svetha😭

and when retaliated to such acerbic scathing remarks,we're called dictators...how amusing👏😕

No one wants to shove it down people's throats that svetha is the better dancer..we're only logically reasoning out,and refuting reasons cited by the mona fans....IF you feel Mona is the best,lay down the points....Just by saying that someone is hardworking and has shown improvement doesnt corroborate the stance that Mona is the best..back up the stance with valid substantiation and valid arguments....all that mona fans say in her defense is "she is not a dancer,she has shown improvement,judges are biased,svetha is jealous,its tobby's fault" etc..give some logical reasoning,as to why mona is better....the svetha fans say that she is more flexible,her dance is so nimble and dexterous,her lifts are more aesthetic,her hip movements are just so graceful,her toes point so immaculately,her expressions are fantastic....come up with such reasons,before calling us dictators

Mona fans(not meaning you ,but in general) are hypocritical...when Mona performs well,all credit to her,but is she performs badly,all flak for tobby...all credit to mona for improving so much,but her performance is run of the mill ,its tobby's fault or judges are biased👏...reasons cited why mona should win....svetha has attitude,svetha's jealous,svetha is a trained dancer(which she isnt BTW),it was tobby's fault.....all these excuses clearly qualify under hypocrisy

first of all gals, pls DO NOT CALL UR OWN FELLOW IF'ians THINGS and that too rude things that too for celebrities and pls dont call it "debate" coz debate doesnt have anyone calling the other teams names or passing rude comments .

why cant some people understand the point that each ones eyes are different and each one looks at things differnetly and each one forms their opinion based on their own criterias and likes. If each person has to like the best then may i ask all those who say that ,whether they like the best in each industry and whether they root for them .I dont think so

if that was the case then why are some rooting and falling for abishek coz actually the industry considers shah rukh khan as the best and the king ,why were people supporting amey date when karunya was the best ,I know some members writng posts like that su[pporting and rooting for amey date ,why didnt the same people support karunya coz clealy he was the best singer .they started suporting karunya only after amey date was out so actually these are the people who should be called "hypocrites"

rani mukerjee is the best actress in the last year as she has won awards at each function so does that mean that everyopne supports or favours rani ,werent there some who like other actresses like preity or ash for that matter.

I will tell u why,the main reason beind,based on ur character and likes, a certain actor/actress or celebrity apeals to you .so in ur mind,u think that they are the best and they did their best and thats exactly whats happeneing .

wasnt it the same buffie who spoke abt " X facxtor" then what happened now, its very clear that people love Mona bczo of her smile and personality along with her dancing and thats called " X FACTOR" ,appealing to people in a way that reaches everyones heart .

Svetha is a brilliant dancer and she deserves to win the JDL championship but then calling all those who support Mona as "hypocrites" is wrong as well coz from their point of views and their likes and character,Mona appeals to them more and they feel that she danced better .

Its very simple and theres no need to call names and accuse other people as "hypocrites and narrow minded ",debating is a healthy way of putting things across without being personal and taregtting other people.

pls bear that in Mind, coz it reflects on ur thoughts and characterisation . remember buffie,werent u offended when certain someone called u childish and Immature .

well looks like it remains the same and will not change,sorry

Tina,debating with you is tiring,because you tend to repeat yourself,...but anyways

ABhishek and SRK dont take part in any competition....if they do,then we'll see.... 😛 ..ditto for priety and ash and rani ..I love abhi,but if ABhi and hrithik participate in a dance competition,I wouldnt be voting for abhi,only because "i like him",...that would make me biased


I'm not going too deep into a debate,as I've allready said It would be tiring,but if you condone all the reasons like "someone must win because of their smile,someone must win because of their personality,someone must win because the judges are biased,because the choreographer was wrong " etc the perfect yardsticks based on which we need to judge,then so be it.... Goodluck to you

Originally posted by: tina59

first of all gals, pls DO NOT CALL UR OWN FELLOW IF'ians THINGS and that too rude things that too for celebrities and pls dont call it "debate" coz debate doesnt have anyone calling the other teams names or passing rude comments .

why cant some people understand the point that each ones eyes are different and each one looks at things differnetly and each one forms their opinion based on their own criterias and likes. If each person has to like the best then may i ask all those who say that ,whether they like the best in each industry and whether they root for them .I dont think so

if that was the case then why are some rooting and falling for abishek coz actually the industry considers shah rukh khan as the best and the king ,why were people supporting amey date when karunya was the best ,I know some members writng posts like that su[pporting and rooting for amey date ,why didnt the same people support karunya coz clealy he was the best singer .they started suporting karunya only after amey date was out so actually these are the people who should be called "hypocrites"

rani mukerjee is the best actress in the last year as she has won awards at each function so does that mean that everyopne supports or favours rani ,werent there some who like other actresses like preity or ash for that matter.

I will tell u why,the main reason beind,based on ur character and likes, a certain actor/actress or celebrity apeals to you .so in ur mind,u think that they are the best and they did their best and thats exactly whats happeneing .

wasnt it the same buffie who spoke abt " X facxtor" then what happened now, its very clear that people love Mona bczo of her smile and personality along with her dancing and thats called " X FACTOR" ,appealing to people in a way that reaches everyones heart .

Svetha is a brilliant dancer and she deserves to win the JDL championship but then calling all those who support Mona as "hypocrites" is wrong as well coz from their point of views and their likes and character,Mona appeals to them more and they feel that she danced better .

Its very simple and theres no need to call names and accuse other people as "hypocrites and narrow minded ",debating is a healthy way of putting things across without being personal and taregtting other people.

pls bear that in Mind, coz it reflects on ur thoughts and characterisation . remember buffie,werent u offended when certain someone called u childish and Immature .

well looks like it remains the same and will not change,sorry

👏 Respect! for such a mature and levelled answer. I wish more people would understand the purpose of the forum before they start flagging hurtful comments to each other. As well as understanding the meaning of certain terminology they use recklessly ..debate, hypocricy, paranoia, and what their functions are.

those whose houses are made of glass should never pick up stones. and those lacking knowledge and temperance should never preach their ideologies before further reasoning.

disagreeing in opinions doesn't mean disagreeing with the person..and shouldn't lead to a personal attack on views.

I like shveta's personality and smile more than Mona!

Originally posted by: mermaid_QT

errrr.. would u say the same if sanjay called mona the next madhuri? 😉

I know n then she wud hav been lik wow look ppl. she is da next madhuri lik Mr.Bhansali said so vote for her. rite???