there will never be another madhuri - Page 7

Originally posted by: mermaid_QT

errrr.. would u say the same if sanjay called mona the next madhuri? 😉

Yes I would actually, It has less to do with who its directed at , as much as it has to do with the words of the so called veteran director himself.

Originally posted by: Buffie

Tina,debating with you is tiring,because you tend to repeat yourself,...but anyways

ABhishek and SRK dont take part in any competition....if they do,then we'll see.... 😛 ..ditto for priety and ash and rani ..I love abhi,but if ABhi and hrithik participate in a dance competition,I wouldnt be voting for abhi,only because "i like him",...that would make me biased


I'm not going too deep into a debate,as I've allready said It would be tiring,but if you condone all the reasons like "someone must win because of their smile,someone must win because of their personality,someone must win because the judges are biased,because the choreographer was wrong " etc the perfect yardsticks based on which we need to judge,then so be it.... Goodluck to you

well buffie looks like u dont read ur previous posts and you say that I am repeating myself ha ha ha

and yeah I had to repeat myself coz someone like you actually you yourself say the same things again and again, pity that u dont realise it uerself and I have to write again and again in reply to ur post .

well its not abt a competition,the thought generally of urs is that the best should win and should be supported and thats eactly what i meant that if that was the thought in ur mind then u would and should be supporting or rooting for the ones that are the best in each industry and then I would have applauded or agreed with ur cooments but again u werent so cant help you in ur thoughts .

what abt amey date and Karunya,well they were in a competition and I remember someone having a "HUGE SIGGY "declaring their love for amey date and asking everyone to vote for him .........I hope the person remembers that . well who was a "hypocrite" then ,oh yeah that should be conveniently forgotten u see as the world revolves only around their fingers and that if anyone has a different POV then they become biased and "hypocrites"

A big request to all members,just ignore such posts coz u know what ,these only reflects ones character and one can easily judge how the person is ,after readsing such posts .

no offense to anyone esp buffie but actually buffie and I are used to it so ................forget it 😉

Originally posted by: Hridi

I like shveta's personality and smile more than Mona!

see thats exactly what I meant that some people appeal to you more bcoz of ur characteruistics and likes and u feel they are the best and they have the best smile and personality but u fail to understand that its the same for everyone else too and thats why some people feel that Mona deserves to win bczo in their eyes she appealed to them more than svetha and its very simple as that unfortunately some people fail to get that thought in their mind

tina59, can i ask you a question, are you rooting for mona or shveta? just cause i get confused sometimes. not that it matters, just that i like your responses, but get confused at times.

Originally posted by: tina7

I know n then she wud hav been lik wow look ppl. she is da next madhuri lik Mr.Bhansali said so vote for her. rite???

EXACTLY MY POINT!!
and if one checks the definition of a hypocrite, that's the behaviour they will expect from such a person.
Just cause SLB called Shweta the next madhuri, certain ppl believe that there will be no next madhuri! However, had the same compliment been given to Mona, ppl would gladly danced gloated and applauded and accepted a new madhuri 😕
This is Hypocracy at its best.
So why the wolf cry ???? 😡 of wrong accusations. You are who you act like. Am I wrong in saying this?? PLEASE PROVE IT!

Thanks,
QT

Originally posted by: tina59

well buffie looks like u dont read ur previous posts and you say that I am repeating myself ha ha ha

no,I was talking out of prior experience.. on the JJKN fourm,you say the same thing,...thus debating with you is very tiring😆

and yeah I had to repeat myself coz someone like you actually you yourself say the same things again and again, pity that u dont realise it uerself and I have to write again and again in reply to ur post .

pity that even you dont realize it😆...oh no,you actually do...and anyways you accept that you write the same thing over and over again,so there it ends😆

well its not abt a competition,the thought generally of urs is that the best should win and should be supported and thats eactly what i meant that if that was the thought in ur mind then u would and should be supporting or rooting for the ones that are the best in each industry and then I would have applauded or agreed with ur cooments but again u werent so cant help you in ur thoughts .

who said dont root for the other..but give valid reasons,and not reasons like "tobby wasnt there for 2 days,judges are biased towards shveta,mona's personality is nice etc"...the biggest problem i find,with so many people,is that when pointed why their reasoning doesnt cut ice,they claim to be the one under attack

what abt amey date and Karunya,well they were in a competition and I remember someone having a "HUGE SIGGY "declaring their love for amey date and asking everyone to vote for him .........I hope the person remembers that . well who was a "hypocrite" then ,oh yeah that should be conveniently forgotten u see as the world revolves only around their fingers and that if anyone has a different POV then they become biased and "hypocrites"

hello,I was rooting for amey,when there were still bad singers lift like Ravi tripathi,anuj sharma etc,....Yes,i was rooting for amey,but when he was a bit bad when he sand RAng de basanthi,I did agreee that he was bad....but otherwise,he was much better than ravi and anuj and sandeep....had he come to the finals,and had he contested against karunya,then I would have voted based on who sang well on teh D day,but that wasnt the case..so lets not bring in hypothetical examples......Liking a person is not hypocrisy(in this case,I liked amey),but turning a blind eye to all the faults of the favourite,supporting them even when they arent upto the mark is what being biased is all about...when I used to adore Amey,I never went on to prove that karunya wasnt good..the only fellow whom I really didnt like was ravi trripathi,because he couldnt sing..........and when amey sang RDB badly,I didnt go begging people to vote for hi,or giving excuses for his bad performance...had I dont that,i can be called biased...if plain liking someone is called biased,everyone in this world is biased....turning a blind eye to the faults of the favourite and acting as though nothing was wrong at all is all what being biased is about...

A big request to all members,just ignore such posts coz u know what ,these only reflects ones character and one can easily judge how the person is ,after readsing such posts .

I really dont care,I dont need a character certificate from anyone here,most of whom are so biased themselves😆..Bye bye,I cant debate over this anymore,as I've made my point clear..anything more would just be the repetition of my points

what are you talking about. I think there are already lot of people who are as talented or even more talented that Madhuri. so stop this nuisance of going anti against shweta. I like mona as well as shweta so I find it very pathetic when someone is putting up suck stupid topics

Originally posted by: xaneroyxx

my impression of sanjay leela bhansali has totally changed after following JDJ- Madhuri is impeccable and her talent is simply out of reach. she's simply a land mark. others can try, they can form their own niche. they can never be her, comparisons are futile and naiive.

Originally posted by: tina59

see thats exactly what I meant that some people appeal to you more bcoz of ur characteruistics and likes and u feel they are the best and they have the best smile and personality but u fail to understand that its the same for everyone else too and thats why some people feel that Mona deserves to win bczo in their eyes she appealed to them more than svetha and its very simple as that unfortunately some people fail to get that thought in their mind

This is where the topic comes to realizing the drawbacks of public voting. It is a dance competetion. How many ppl know WHAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT.. in the participants, their choreographers and their performance- technique, entertainment quality, style, novelty, perfection, yada yada yada..

I agree that these two are doing a great job @ dancing. This is exactly why they are there. This is why it has become so difficult to vote.. I agree that Mona fans (NOT ALL) will be biassed and so will be many Shweta fans. Yes, there will be guys who find shweta Hotter 😉 cos she is.. and hence vote for her instead of appreciating her dancin skills .. 😆😆
MATURITY is in accepting that there will be biases on both sides. However, if you pulled out posts on this forum itself for example, PLEASE READ MAJORITY of Mona fans' comments and REASONS behind voting for Mona. MANY of them will GLADLY admit that shweta is the better dancer, but they will vote for Mona.
Now this annoys us Shweta fans. If MONA fans say THAT Mona is still a BETTER DANCER....&..
it doesn;t matter that--
1) mona has less ability to move the lumber region gracefully
2) she cannot keep up with speed of several songs and hence her choreographer tones down the dance steps for many rhythms (as pointed during her last bollywood number by Shilpa)
3) her lifts look a bit awkward given her stature
4) her foot work / swiftness is poor compared to Shweta


us Shweta fans will take it as a valid argument and form a debate around it.
The entire logic of MONA Is sooooo sweett.. I loved JJKN.. she imprved sooo much.. yada yada is just VERY ANNOYING.
IF YOU PREFER HER DANCE, I'll say, "yes u r the respectable janata of india and you get to decide who you like... sigh @ shweta"
But if you ADMIT that SHWETA is a BETTER DANCER, yet u'll vote for MONA, it is indeed BOTHERSOME to a shweta fan..

As for speeking about MATURITY, calling SHWETA-FANS "DICTATORS", was a poor show of mud slinging 😉😉😉.. NOT MATURE!!!

It is GREAT TO BE someone's FAN.. but sometimes, you SNATCH AWAY what they EARNED BY THEIR TALENT by giving them MORE THAN THEY DESERVED! Fans should watch out I think.
OF ALL THESE PPL, I TRULY LOVE JADEJA.. 😭😭
But yeah, when it was time for him to leave the dance competetion, I accepted that. There is a certain grace in that. Even he felt that the remaining 3 were better than him and I applaud him.. Real jassi fans should APPLAUD her 2nd position.. as HER HARD WORK, DEDICATION< HER IMPROVEMENT and yeas dance skills EARNED HER the place in FINALS.
If her journey doesn;t end here, HER CROWN MAY JUST BE UR GIFT TO HER.. and I wonder if she deserves this kind of treatment.. because whatever you may feel and believe,
PEOPLE WHO UNDERSTAND DANCE, will ALWAYS FEEL THAT JASSI DID NOT DESERVE IT AND WON BY POPULARITY. 😭They may even forget that she DESERVED to be #2. SHE EARNED THAT.. and thanks to the fans, the whole thing will be looked at as her POPULARITY..

she'll be sad.. perhaps.. thanks to her fans.. 🤢🤢🤢

qt

Originally posted by: xaneroyxx

Originally posted by: Buffie

Spending more time or energy on this would be futile. because I have made it clear that i am not a fan, when it seems that you are making it a life goal to campaign for shveta through the arguments being posed on the "general functionalities" of the show. This was never meant to be a comparative case study, but incidents were pointed out to elaborate the discussion. there's a manipulative sense to twist things around and direct them towards your favorite contestant. granted bearing in mind the sentiments fans have for their contestants however if should never override reasoning. and at the end of the day to each his own. and if your sole purpose in not just this thread but many is to show that shveta is invincible then by all means, i think its good for you..and you should dedicate this energy in voting. moreover i believe you have great career prospects for a politician. but in an age of prevalent democracy..it is only exercised by hearing both views and taking them into consideration. not by trying to propel your beliefs on the account of others. constant bantering wont get us anywhere. and the results are going to be out soon, and i believe this discussion is going to take an uglier from after. you seem to take everything said in context of the two contestants..and to inferiorate one and empower another. i hope it works for you. but the discussion posted was on the judges behavior and the show in general.

JDJ is a great show with some mishaps..but there is a life beyond it.