The idiosyncracies of the show...!! - Page 2

extremely well put, and well, it adds to the voice of sense which has been sorely missing around here.. what makes the least sense to me in all this is the way a contestant is blamed for being popular and getting votes..
the latest article by hard kaur, if people had bothered to read it carefully, she has clearly stated 2 points.
1) if u expect talent to win, dont have popularity. when popularity comes in, talent takes a back seat

2) dont blame the voters, blame the channel
what more do u need! I guess all that is needed is a guinea pig on who u can vent ur frustrations.. and that will be continued irrespective of any sense u try to bring..

thanks for the post but. 😊

Originally posted by: Pebblez

I am just sad you didnt benefit from my tutorial. :P....every man to his own...!! :)
Have a great day too.

Thank you for the offer.. but I'll pass on it. I guessed you missed the whole point of my reply to your post. 😊

Originally posted by: *Huma*

<br><br>Thank you for the offer.. but I'll pass on it. I guessed you missed the whole point of my reply to your post. 😊<br>

Yeah. But then, you did to mine too. And then again, i repeat, every man, his own. Its your opinion, that was mine. 😊

Originally posted by: *Huma*

We are very well aware that this is a celebrity DANCE show...and we know that Sony are merely using his popularity to get themselves out the recession. So thank you for your tutorial...

I don't think Karan is the only celeb that Sony have taken digs at, there have been digs on Bhaghyashree, Gauhar, Monica, Parul, HK etc etc.. So my point, its not only Karan who has been subjected to this. Its the channel's way of creating drama. And dude they are creating this drama so that his fans become over-zealous and vote double/ triple, which is what is happening. Hence the channel wins; its a win-win situation for them.

Secondly Karan and all these celebs were very well aware of what they were getting themselves in to, so in this case it was their decision to be portrayed the way they are being shown on TV. Hence they cannot complain about being shown as the BAD or GOOD guy.. And anyway as saying goes 'Any publicity is good publicity..'

Regarding stopping people from voting, no we cannot stop people..its a deomocracy and every voter has a right to do something stupid or good. They are using their money, whether they throw it in the gutter or keep it safe, it is entirely up to them.

About your statement: "No. Its "dancing with the Stars" which means, definitely, the popular ones get through."
You are contradicting yourself; its a dancing show, hence the celebrity with dancing talent should win, and personally right this moment coz of Karan a well deserving celeb who was also popular and COULD dance had to loose out.

I don't think the TRPs would matter much in the case of JDJ, as its pretty low this season anyway...

People watch this show for different reasons, not everyone watch the show coz they want to see their favourite celebrity..They watch for dance, creative choreographers and to learn about various dance forms, which this season has failed miserably in.

The format of this show is to create drama, and if Karan did not want to be a part of the drama around him. He shouldn't have agreed to it, but he came on this show on his own accord, and so no one should complain about how much humiliation he's been through, personally I think Gauhar has been through more. So why were people not complaining then???Oh wait...everyone hates her... At the end, these celebs don't care about such cheap acts the channels do, coz in the end it benefits them; they gain more popularity and come in the public eye, and eventually people forget about what happened in the show.

So in the end, I'll just say like you, people merely vent out their frustration when they make posts regarding Karan not being good enough to be in the finals...coz well its a sad truth but he's not good enough for the finals. But the other sad truth is that.. he is. This is a democratic forum, so if members are allowed to make Pro Karan, then others should be allowed to make Anti-Karan posts too. I don't see why there should be any difference in giving opinion.

Live and let live...
Have a nice day.

first of all, well put...👍🏼 and rationally too...although i have a few things to point out...first of all, i completely agree with your point about the celebrities knowing what they signed up for...but that is precisely why Karan never raises a voice against anything that is said to him, fair or unfair...that was my issue with the whole farce about the "edited" clips...i thought it was unfair on both Gauhar as well as Karan, since Gauhar's clip remained a montage of isolated answers from different interviews, while Karan's clip was not even called for...he never raised the question of how he was being portrayed in the first place, keeping a dignified 'No Comments' stand on his Bad Boy image as well as his Playboy persona...then why have him in the corner? 😕 if you'll recall, Rohit asked him his opinion about this whole 'editing' business, and his reply was a simple waise to nahin but agar aap ek hi cheez ko slow-mo karke, background music chala ke dikhayenge to shayad use editing kaha ja sakta hai...and then, pronto, the clips were aired...almost as though they knew what he was going to say before he said it...so one would conclude that it was either scripted, or manipulated, or just plain silly that they decided to make an entire AV to reply to allegations Karan never made...!! and Gauhar's was equally ridiculous, since her point was that they isolate only her negative statements, and the AV they showed just confirmed that...!!😕

bang on pebbz!!... its rather... erm ... unfortunate... that some people will just pick on those who are die hard fans and categorize EVERYONE supporting karan as mindless babes...

and if they can't get the point... oh well... we know who's being hell bent, biased, and blind to ALL facts... you cant just see convenient sides to things and build your own argument... IT IS A BIG WHOLE PICTURE... and people who supprot karan aren't ALL just mad abvout him... the point is,

WE BELIEVE HES THE GUY WE WANT TO SUPPORT... it doesnt mean we dont accept where and when he goes wrong, and it doesnt mean we say hes flawless... it also doesnt mean we are bashing anyone or any other stars... it simply means WE SUPPORT HIM... now what part of that simple english cant penetrate through... is hard to figure....

everyone can support whichever 'star' as pebbz says they like or prefer... its not about perfection.... atleast 50% of it isn't and that's the 50% public decides... AS PER THE SHOW NORMS... if people can't take that well... its really just their own problem and only they can deal with it...

kudoz pebbz!!! looks like doing well in physics has more than the obvious advantages for you !!!

*hugz*

barnz..

ps: im sure, like all other threads this wont be spared from bashing either... if i do get quoted, those who agree with me... :)

those who dont... i dont care much !!!

Originally posted by: spln

bang on pebbz!!... its rather... erm ... unfortunate... that some people will just pick on those who are die hard fans and categorize EVERYONE supporting karan as mindless babes...

and if they can't get the point... oh well... we know who's being hell bent, biased, and blind to ALL facts... you cant just see convenient sides to things and build your own argument... IT IS A BIG WHOLE PICTURE... and people who supprot karan aren't ALL just mad abvout him... the point is,

WE BELIEVE HES THE GUY WE WANT TO SUPPORT... it doesnt mean we dont accept where and when he goes wrong, and it doesnt mean we say hes flawless... it also doesnt mean we are bashing anyone or any other stars... it simply means WE SUPPORT HIM... now what part of that simple english cant penetrate through... is hard to figure....

everyone can support whichever 'star' as pebbz says they like or prefer... its not about perfection.... atleast 50% of it isn't and that's the 50% public decides... AS PER THE SHOW NORMS... if people can't take that well... its really just their own problem and only they can deal with it...

kudoz pebbz!!! looks like doing well in physics has more than the obvious advantages for you !!!

*hugz*

barnz..

ps: im sure, like all other threads this wont be spared from bashing either... if i do get quoted, those who agree with me... :)

those who dont... i dont care much !!!

😃 you stole those words right out of my mouth...thank you for putting it so well...reading that, if some people still choose to be deliberately obtuse, then, well...good for them...😛...

Hey Kiran first of all a big hug to you for writing all this....🤗 You actually wrote whatever I wanted to say and tried to explain this to ppl here.. time and again.... But no one... Well anyways....

Agree with each and every word you said dear...

Yes it is dancing with stars.... its not a talent hunt for best dancers.... If sony ppl are so concerned about the-best-dancer-should-win thing then why this voting system.... and our so called Gauhar and Baichung fans.... vote for your favourites and let others do the same... If your favourite is not getting enough votes... How is it Karan or his fans' fault.... By making hate posts against Karan or his wife or his choreo or his fans your favourites are not going to win.... BUt i think this simple thing is so difficult for ppl to understand....

Thank you so much for making this post.... It was really needed...

God Bless You..

Originally posted by: Pebblez

Okay, seriously. This forum is one i visit the least, and since the very start of the show, i have seen people crib, complain and go on non-stop about Karan, Karan Karan....Karan this, Karan that...!!! So clearly, he is the most popular star of the show, whether you like him or not. But anyways, thats not why um here. All i wanted to say is, this show is seriously turning idiotic now.

First thing, I clearly remember the logo of the show; dancing with the STARS. Which means, celebrities, of course. And so it should be damn well clear that in celebrities, one or two would be more popular than the others. Then they dragged in Karan Singh Grover, who happens to be amongst the top rated television stars today. And thats when the drama started.

What i dont understand is why everyone is all the time taking digs at him? Karan is as much of a celebrity as the others; i dont see them being dragged into every statement the hosts make. I agree, he is far more popular with a huge fan following; so is that a crime on the show? Can you stop people from voting? I dont frikking get what the hell is everyone's problem with his fan following voting for him. Is it a 'Search India for Talent Dance Show'? No. Its "dancing with the Stars" which means, definitely, the popular ones get through.

They go on and on about how his voting is so much more than others, and its unfair. How come? Isnt it the pattern of the show? If the voting irks them so much, why not totally make a judge-based show, on 'pure dancing' talent. I bet they would have a big financial problem, not to mention low TRP s in it.

See, Sony's giving us a show that's about stars and dancing. Just learn to enjoy dance, rather than fret about it. If i get down to HOW unfair the show has been to Karan, and how he's been facing such a biased behavior from the judges, than it'd be definitely a very long post. All i want to say is, they are just too hypocritical to HAVE him in the show and then take digs at him. Come on, take Karan out tomorrow, their TRPs are gonna drop within ONE episode. I. Can. Frikking. Bet.

So yea. The basic point is, stop being so biased against him. He's just another contestant. And yah, whether he deserves to be there or not, depends on the voters. All those anti-Karan, you can just vote for the ones you like, and get off the guy's back. Its all the time yak-yak-yak about either Karan or Shraddha or Nicole or the blog or the dance or the godforsaken kisses and how they are seriously proving to be a hazard to your sensitive little hearts.

P.s. No offence meant, i am not here for fighting. I just need to make a stance and stand by it for him.

Kiran

Very well put and reasoned. I agree no one is saying that he is flawless but making him a target for every God saken reason under the sun is not needed.

As Nandani mentioned earlier...all the points you mentioned....blood has spilled over it here...so the lesser said the better. and yeah I am ready to take that bet as well....take him out tomorrow and see where the trp's go.