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Posted: 13 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: torontoboy89

U-No-Poo, great topic and I completely agree with you.
It seems like the judges are not interested in anyone else except Isha, Shibani and Gurmeet. Which is just sad.
To me it seems like they are judging others harshly but willing to overlook things with Isha, Shibani, Gurmeet.
I also agree with your points about not liking Isha/Gurmeet's recent performances. I also am on the same boat. I didnt like Gurmeet's Semi-Classical as it was too basic and elementary for a "30". I havent really liked Isha-Salman's last two performances either.
I am a trained dancer as well and I have noticed some mistakes in Gurmeet's Semi-Classical and even Isha-Salmans act this week and the theen ka tadka week. So either theres something wrong with the judges or their bring bribed.
And Yes, Darsheel is getting a royal snub in this show. He is probably the only contestant who is "dancing" the most and trying different things. But the judges dont seem to care about him. He even came in the bottom this week and it looked like nobody cared, the judges could have at least said something like why is he in the bottom or whatever.
and I dont know if its just me or does anybody feel they were extra tough on Susheel. I mean, I know hes a horrible dancer, but he has surely improved. I didnt think he deserved a 5 😕 I
They claim the standard is rising, but it seems like integrity is falling at the same time.



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Giving out 5 is the way of judges saying, "you are out next time"
He missed many steps, and i found only alisha performing the act...
Agreed with rest of your post...
Edited by sudha100 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#22
I think Giaa is a good dancer but Nishant is not creative in his choreography and concepts like say salma, shampa and deepak are. that is what lets her down..like the ariel act was a challenge and nishant did well in it even last season in the challenge round he done a good choreography for shadow dance with ankita other than that he was not on par with the other choreographers and its same this season aswell...I wish he would be more innovative and do something out of the box.

Darsheel for me is underrated he is one of my favs and he and avneet each week have pure dance in their performance but judges never give them more than 9...

Bharti is fantastic at comedy and I love her nokh-chokhs with manish but imo in dance she is overrated by the judges sometimes...shibani is another one who I feel is overrated the week she done the judges challenge there was co-ordination problem towards the end but judges (espcially remo shocked me) didn't even point it out and gave her full marks!

anyway im rooting for Ritwick to win...first time I've seen him but he has blown me away by both his dance and personality!👏😳

Edited by krutiv100 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#23
I completely agree. I think Salman and Isha are being favoured and overrated.

Isha is a dance teacher and its not surprising that she is good at contemporary dance. They have never shown Indian classical and even the bollywood that was shown wasnt also great!!!


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Posted: 13 years ago
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I completely disagree with you guys regarding Gurmeet's performance for this week, He did not get perfect 30, then why are you guys mentioning about him getting perfect 30, when in fact he scored 29 and not 30, which I think he truly deserved and I also feel this week's performance of Shibani was not great either, for sure it is not perfect 30 performance but they still ended up getting and I don't know how. According to me, only person who should have got 30 is rashmi-deepak and karan wahi who did fabulous performance, even darsheel should have got 30 which they did not get. Darsheel should have got compared to Shibani who according to me was not a robotic act, what say gys????
Edited by Tiharika - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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couldnt agree more...

isha salman are blindly given 30s and unnecessary VIP treatment...all they do is a couple of stretches, lifts, flexible postures and thts it...even when they do Bollywood (like TDP act) or bachata,it always looks pretty much the same with all those lifts and throws...which isha's obviously very good at...so why the orgasmic praise all the time??? why dont the judges tell them to try something different or cut off points for not being versatile? ...how abt trying something completely diff? hardcore bollywood/belly dancing/hip hop/house/classical indian like kathak or bharatanatyam? or perhaps indian folk like garba/dandiya rajasthani folk, lavani, south indian (the kind ragini did last season with nakka mukka) or bhangra? or how abt tribal/afro jazz? anything where they cant hide under their multiple lifts,stretches and postures... they just get 30s for doing the same thing again and again...

gauhar n hard kaur from season 3 were 10x better...they tried hip hop, indian classical,contemporary, afro jazz, bhangra, disco...all kinds of genres...while isha n salman are stuck in a rut...

its frustrating to watch talented contestants like darsheel who are just as good or even better, getting stuck at 27s...the judges r extremely partial and being complete douchebags to other contestants because their favs isha n salman are "oh so perfect"...

like take yesterday...they said darsheel wasnt emoting properly or something rite and cut off marks for tht? how abt isha's non existent expressions? why not cut marks for tht then? 😕...

the shows getting really stupid and its not really a "competition" anymore...
Edited by pathaka - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I agree with you on Isha-Salman. I have been rooting for them since the beginning along with Shibani-Puneet. But at this point, I am sick of the redundancy Isha-Salman bring. They don't do anything other than a couple of lifts, throws, stretch ...that's it. Why not try Hip hop? Classical? Fox Trot? Salsa? They have been doing the same since the start. About time the judges tell them to start doing something new. They have hit a total saturation point now and yet they keep getting 30s. This week's performance did not deserve a 30 at all.


The new girl Rashmi, she seems to be much more versatile than Isha and the best out of the lot as of now.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dexterkichokri.

I agree with you on Isha-Salman. I have been rooting for them since the beginning along with Shibani-Puneet. But at this point, I am sick of the redundancy Isha-Salman bring. They don't do anything other than a couple of lifts, throws, stretch ...that's it. Why not try Hip hop? Classical? Fox Trot? Salsa? They have been doing the same since the start. About time the judges tell them to start doing something new. They have hit a total saturation point now and yet they keep getting 30s. This week's performance did not deserve a 30 at all.



The new girl Rashmi, she seems to be much more versatile than Isha and the best out of the lot as of now.

rashmi n ritik both r good ...but for me not only isha but also gurmeet both r doing same type of acts from the starting ,she is doing lifts n he is doing marshal arts n juping type non dancing act , even gia is better in taking risk 😛
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: krangara

Aah...completely agree! I thought I was the only one who noticed Isha and Salman's lack of versatility.


Another contestant that you failed to appreciate, but one I adore, is Bharti. She is so vivacious, charming and a talented dancer!!!! Even this non-dancer has attempted Lavini and Bollywood dancing, while the supposed 'Best Pairs' are stuck in a rut and still receiving 30s.

Disappointed with you, Madhuri!!!!!!!!!!!!! The judges are obviously biased

true...im badly madly impressed with bharti ...i think uska koi comfort zone hi nhi hai , cheer phad dala hai comfort zone usney ,that women can do anything 👏
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Posted: 13 years ago
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So much criticism for Salman and Isha. Just because they do beautiful lifts almost every week does not mean it's basically the same dance every week. They have beautiful concepts and they execute it well. They can not NOT get 30s on perfect performances just because it did not suit the taste palate of a broader audience (including myself) who wants to see contestant shake their hips across the stage.

I would like see Salman and Isha do things like hip hop,street jazz, bollywood items and such but I also realize they still have many more weeks left to show us those things. Salman and Isha are marvelous, they truly are. I feel like people are starting to forget that because they are seeing it every week.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: U-No-Poo


P.s - I'm pretty sure all latin forms require the ladies to move their hips. That is the very basic golden rule of latin forms (except maybe Tango) No hip movement = No latin dancing.

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzX1zZjFhRc[/YOUTUBE]


Let me start off by saying that I am not a trained dancer so if I say something wrong please feel free to correct me. 😊

Jhalak is a show whose main premise is entertainment. Dancing will always take a back seat to performance. That is the reason that celebrities participate in this show. It's like they're saying,"Look you already love us, now let us entertain you some more by showing you awesome dance performances." If they wanted the audience and the judges to nitpick at their dancing techniques, they would have instead gone on shows like Dance India Dance. That is why sometimes the judges are willing to forego mistakes in the dancing if the performances are truly spectacular.

In these past two episodes, I thought that Rashmi and Karan both had amazing performances. However, Isha really stole the show like she does every week. Salman is so adept at finding the best concepts to go with the best songs and he choreographs in such a way that their performances are breathtaking and mesmerizing. I won't say that all of their performances were amazing but the majority of them definitely were. Therefore, I feel that the judges were completely justified in giving them the 30's that they have gotten. You can't possibly claim that just because you believe that their acts are redundant, that they are not stellar.

I do think that Isha has shown versatility. They have done Rope Mallakhamb, Contemporary, Bachata, Paso Doble, Bollywood, Pole Dancing, Freestyle and Wire work, and Ring Aerial.As you said, just because they do lifts and splits doesn't make it contemporary but those are the only real additions they made to the other styles. I would like to ask you what elements of contemporary you saw in their performances.

Isha Sharvani is the lead dancer for a contemporary dance company so I'm sure she knows and shares the same woes as you, but incorporating lifts and showcasing her flexibility is just to make the performances more exciting and beautiful.

As for the Bachata and the Paso Doble, they definitely did incorporate the basic concepts.

For the Bachata, they made the 1, 2, 3, accent(hip pop) very obvious during their performance. I don't know if you've seen the movie Take the Lead starring Antonio Banderas, but in it there was a tango scene at the end with three dancers and the format of the performance was quite similar to the one with Isha, Salman and Karanvir. Since the Bachata is meant to be danced with two people, with the addition of the third person also comes opportunity to do more lifts. I thought that was a smart move on Salman's part in terms of choreography.

As for the Paso Doble, if you watch the So You Think You Can Dance Paso Doble performance, you'll see that Salman and Isha do some of the same steps as in the video. Of course, Salman's Paso Doble is a lot more theatrical and aptly illustrates the intimate dance that actually takes place between the matador and the bull in the ring. Bull fighting is all about showmanship and Salman has definitely shown that in his choreography.

The Rope Mallakhamb and the Ring Aerial were both shown in their pure form, I don't think you can count those as contemporary. As Isha has trained in these for 15 years, I feel as if I don't even have the right to comment on either. I do wish that Salman decides to have Isha perform Kathak for the next performance though because I know she is trained in it, but I want to see for myself how good she is at it.

If you haven't noticed already, Isha is definitely my bias. However, I'm not the kind of person who can't appreciate other people who are not my biases nor am I the kind of person who thinks my bias can do no wrong. I would appreciate it if you could elaborate upon where exactly her fault lies. Since you are training in contemporary, I would love to learn more from you. 😊

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