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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: legallyblonde21

first of all why is jassi being brought in when this thread is about mona; and please why the sarcasm on the comment vs. glorify choice of appropriate words; wouldnt it suit us also to get just as sarcastic at the whole criticism vs. bash choice of words that have been thrown towards us..

secondly the reason i brought madhuri in is because she was an excellent and beautiful actress but you chose to use those words for mona singh and thus i had to ask you if you think that mona is as good as madhuri???please do not take it in the worng context; there was no comparison made just a picture placed under the phrase "is an excellent and beautiful actress"

and the reason she got jassi is not because she was the best looker on the planet but because she tripped on the steps to TnD 's office as she has said herself--the fidgety nature of that incident is what the makers related to jassi

and as far as models go --has mona singh ever in all her 29 years ever walked the ramp for designers such as rohit bal or manish malhotra or suneet varma; even take the JJKN example Satya Paul who is more renowned did Rakshanda Khan's outfits because RK has done ramp shows and is said to be one of the most elegant and stylish ppl on indian tv; the lady who did mona's outfits did them AFTER the makeover and whose outfits were even MOCKED at cannes because they made the gorgeous ash look BADDDDDDD(and please even the ash fans agree that her cannes outfit were bad--but god forbid that the tree huggies ever agree to any real life appearance of mona as being bad) whereas RK donned satya paul from the start of the show to the end of her character

modelling for one asian paints commercial does NOT make one a ramp model--ramp models are the ones who are faar more famous e.g. deepika padukone

the karwa sach is also that bwood slammeddd the door in her face and BP--who was the page 3 producer and every1 said that mona had been signed by the page 3 producer but npw are saying--oh whats his claim for fame--ummm page 3 came before mona singh's deal with BP thanks very much--went on to say that MS was a mistake; lets see who else is lining outside mona's door. aditya Dutt chose geeta to make DDH;SLB took sonam kapoor and even farah khan took Deepika and not mona singh despite all that she says to mona singh on JDJ. and why is it that although srk's kids wanted to meet jassi; srk did not give the actress that played jassi even a small insy winsy part in any of his movie; why was manini in krrish and not mona--she is quite "chirpy" so she would have played the annoying sidekick well; and why did YR films not call mona but call manini and believe it or not SS 🤢

many of you might say that ekta is a dreadful producer who makes bad shows BUT the truth is that those shows garner more TRPs than the sony shows combined; so if she can take vinay jain for KAA why could she not take MS for even one show 😕 😕

and please comparing mother teresa to the telly actresses is NOT fair; mother teresa did her work without giving 27646783924893748932748347583 intvws about her work--the effects were there for ppl to see; she believed more in deeds and action than in words BUT sorry to say all the telly actresses believe in saying how great; sexy and amazing they are and talking of their achievements in huge print 6747832463728478632 times; the word HUMILITY has no meaning for tv stars but mother teresa was truly a noble woman--the telly stars are not noble in any case..i am even astounded that you would choose to defend the telly actresses' beauty by comparing them to mother teresa's beauty---totally unjustifiable

To sum it all up

1)Mona bagged the role of Jassi by chance..serendipity and LUCK played a massive role...She didnt get it because her histrionics were a class apart

2)She improved...She,along with every other actor of JJKn improved in their enacting skills

3)She is not good enough for Bollywood...Before she talks too big,she needs to first clarify facts with people concerned

4)She's not thin....Thus,Bollywood is very hard,if not impossible for her,because the current scenario in Bollywood is that,even the A list actresses are required to look slim and petite...Its the karwa sach aishu....Bollywood is obsessed with thin actresses,ifnot why are established actresses like Kareena and Aishwarya and Rani and priety asked to loose weight

5)She isnt a graceful dancer...

6)She's too perky for our liking..Some of her idiosyncrasies are annoying..She does come across as affable and all that,but at times,she is irritating

7)She never stays true to her words..she keeps going back and forth and speaks for the moment...

Her good points

1)I do agreeshe's one of the best actresses in "TELLYWOOD"...But sadly,even there,she isnt getting roles as she's a tad plump(as reported by mumbai mirror)

2)She does look good sometimes,when her make up isright,and when her clothes cover up all the flab😊

3)She is fine for television...sHE is as popular as Hiten and Smrithi are,but she doesnt have as many fans as Hiten has

4)She cant be compared to any legend like Madhuri ...She's no legend

5)She did have a good chemstry with Apoorva..so much,so that people even linked them up

6)She is carning about her friends

Now hope that clears everything...For certain reasons,I dont like her..I appreciate certain of her achievments..but,I'm no fan of hers,and I do think she is pretty much overrated..She's good,but overrated....Just like how vinay jain and parmeet are underrated!...When any picture of hers is posted,I might say what I feel,and that in no way qualifies as "bashing"....If I analyse her bollywood future,that doesnt make me a basher...If I say that it would be very very very hard for her,I dont become a basher..If I say that she has contradicted herself,I dont become a basher...If any article is posted,and if i say that she contradicted herself again,I become no basher....if I say she's mediocre looking,I dont become a basher,or a person who respects only the drop dead gorgeous,nor a person who says that only beautiful people have the right to live,nor a person who said that mona is ugly

Edited by Buffie - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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The basic problem that we have is someone thats MS is being chosen to be degraded or insulted ot assumed to be disgraceful just bcoz of their physical traits and thats totally unfair.My question is why should a post be started in the first place criticising abt anyones physical trait,is that the most important thing to look for in an actress .Yeah bollwood gives more importance to the figure than the acting talent butdoes that make it right ,No IT DOESNT.wE ARE STILL HUMAN BEINGS WHO UNDERSTAND THAT ITS WRONG TO CRITICISE OR JUDGE ANYONE BASED ON THEIR PHYSICAL TRAIT.

does anyone start a new post here for someone who is thin or someone who is tall or someone who is short.Maybe some feel that being thin or short or tall is "ugly" ,so do we have numerous posts here criticising all those who fall under this category ,NO bcoz we know that its wrong and unfair to judge or assume anyone based on their physical trait and thats the fact and the main problem that some of them have.
They seem to have this belief that only those who are thin can dance gracefully and automatically assume that all those who are plump cant dance,ok its fair coz thats what they have been exposed too but does that make it fair and justified ,NO,atleast for me NO and thats when the debate starts.

The point is whatever field they may be , physical trait should not be considered for their success ,thier hardwork and talent is what matters most,atleast for me,it does.

Yes I would call all those immature coz one has to learn and not stick to these unfair and false assumptions and form an opinion .Tomorrow if someone termed you as "ugly" just bcoz for them anyone of ur physical trait in their books means "ugly" ,wouldnt you be inclined to explain it to them .

No one objected to anything written abt her acting but claiming she CANT dance well BCOZ SHE IS FAT is unfair and in the end she is also a fellow human being and if one cant appreciate a fellow human beings talent or hardwork or effort then I am sorry it speaks a lot abt that persons immaturity for me.

for eg some totally ignore the fact that she was the one who the character jassi to life and one should appreciate her for doing her job successfully and with lot of hard work and dedication and sincerety .But what i hear is that some are not even willing to appreciate her for that and say that she shot to fame by luck .As i have said earlier that it means that all those who go for an interview for a job and the one who actually gets the job as lucky coz even he/she gets the job based on some trait that the company wa slooking for and thats how he/she scored better than the others ,does that make them lucky,NO coz they fitted the job description and won over equally qualified and educated people.In ms case,there were many talented ladies who had the desire and the talent had come to give the auditions but MS got the job coz the producers thought she fit the characer they wanted to play.

Imaaturity is seen when someone doesnt even want to give credit to appreciate where its due.

I still stick that thse statements make them look very childish and immature and thats how it is .Do u realise that it hurts when someone tells you something which you dont beleive is right,well its the same for everyone and U have to understand that
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Tina,youre repeating yourself again...I think I've cleared up everything..No one is insulting mona,because she's not good looking...We only say that to our eyes,she doesnt look extremely beautiful,which in no way is disrespectful...I never say things like "EWWWWWWWWW,she's uglyyyyyyyyy"...That's an insult,the plain stating of the fact that we dont find her pretty is NOT any insult


ABout physical traits,well,Mona is in the entertainment field,and if people who pay money to watch her find her fat,they would say that😊...Its just human,that people feel that someone looks nice,or not nice,thin or fat......And please😭,I just started ONE thread saying that she looke fat in the JDJ promo(which she did..just check out her hands,...they surely werent thin)...Now,one post,when one sees a new promo,isnt wrong....You sound as thouh,My only job is to start posts everyday,saying "Mona is fat",which I dont do😕..WHy only Mona,we even say that RAkshandha is fat when her picture is posted...Does that make us diabolic wretches.,.NO...Now if RK says that i want to join bollywood,we'll say the same..If RK looks fat,we'll say it..If reva looks fat,and if her picture is posted..we'll say that she needs to hit the gym..that in NO WAY is bashing a star..those are plain comments.... 😊

Originally posted by: tina59


They seem to have this belief that only those who are thin can dance gracefully and automatically assume that all those who are plump cant dance,ok its fair coz thats what they have been exposed too but does that make it fair and justified ,NO,atleast for me NO and thats when the debate starts.



just as you dont feel its right,it doesnt become wrong😊...We have so many threads in other sections saying"kripa looks fat in this picture no".."Gauri pradhan has put on weight no"...Those threads,in no way are bashing threads....stars will be discussed,and as long as they arent maligned,or made a butt of jokes(which doesnt happen with mona),I think saying whether a person is fat or thin is fine....



Originally posted by: tina



The point is whatever field they may be , physical trait should not be considered for their success ,thier hardwork and talent is what matters most,atleast for me,it does.



for the Nth time,I repeating this😭..In the entertainment field,looks matter....They want good looking,thin people....if delnaaz Paul goes to Aditya Chopra,and tells him"I'll work harder than all the priety's and rani's....I'm act better than them..Give me a role opposite Abhishek/Saif"...His answer would be"Sorry,not possible"......That's reality...lets face the harsh reality.....Now,if mona loses weight,and becomes like Tanushree Dutta,and if she starts looking young,I myself would say that she needs to give Bollywood a try😛...trust me,I'll say that.... 100 times😛


Originally posted by: tina59


Yes I would call all those immature coz one has to learn and not stick to these unfair and false assumptions and form an opinion .Tomorrow if someone termed you as "ugly" just bcoz for them anyone of ur physical trait in their books means "ugly" ,wouldnt you be inclined to explain it to them .



hey look,If i join movies of television,I become a public property.I'm paid,because people watch me😛..and they can say anything about me,my looks,my dress,my hair,my weight etcetera..because I'm earning money for my bread because these people watch me..So,I have to listen to their opinions and feedback,never mind if they are harsh..I have to improve on things which I can improve on(weight,dressing etcetera),and I have to accept that Not all would find me beautiful..I'll be thankful to those who feel I'm pretty,i'd feel happy when they say that...and If anyone feels that I dont deserve to be where I am,I would reconcile myself saying that afterall,its just an opinion,which can never be right or wrong,as its just afterall a plain bloody opinion. 😊


Originally posted by: tina59



No one objected to anything written abt her acting but claiming she CANT dance well BCOZ SHE IS FAT is unfair and in the end she is also a fellow human being and if one cant appreciate a fellow human beings talent or hardwork or effort then I am sorry it speaks a lot abt that persons immaturity for me



that's your opinion,and I wouldnt/would become imature only because you think so....But,that's what you feel,and I respect that..I'm not here to prove my maturity or anything 😊 ..I honestly felt that way,after watching kajra re,and after watching her previous performances,and after watching many plus sized women faltering....Now,I would change,if I see any plus sized woman dancing gracefully,and when I do,I wouldnt mind saying that to all..I would agree that I was immature,and that I have changed my opinion..I would definitely do it,as I'm not the one who puts up a facade and pretends 😊 ...As I'm doing now😛..bashing SS was a foolishness,and I accept it..similarly,I'll accept it when I see a plus sized woman dancing gracefully😊

Originally posted by: tina59


for eg some totally ignore the fact that she was the one who the character jassi to life and one should appreciate her for doing her job successfully and with lot of hard work and dedication and sincerety .But what i hear is that some are not even willing to appreciate her for that and say that she shot to fame by luck .As i have said earlier that it means that all those who go for an interview for a job and the one who actually gets the job as lucky coz even he/she gets the job based on some trait that the company wa slooking for and thats how he/she scored better than the others ,does that make them lucky,NO coz they fitted the job description and won over equally qualified and educated people.In ms case,there were many talented ladies who had the desire and the talent had come to give the auditions but MS got the job coz the producers thought she fit the characer they wanted to play.



SHE was good as jassi,I never refuted that..But,she bagged the role due to pure luck..Hell,something that even she admits,why are you refuting that😕..she herself says that she was lucky to get the roleand thus ruling out all scope for ambiguity...Period!..She got the job due to luck,now we havent even seen the others who auditioned...How could we say that Mona is the best..Even Amitabh Bachchan was rejected many times before he did his first movie,..only because he was rejected,and some other one was chosen,does it mean that AB isnt good..NO...Its all luck..Initial breakthrough is Luck...anyone who had played Jassi would have been where Mona is now,as it wasnt the actor but the character who struck a chord with everyone..Initially mona was quite naive..her dialogue delivery was poor,and her expressions were pathetic.she used to stand with that grin flaunting her braces for like 4544551 minutes,as though she's posing for a photograph..she wasnt quick,her emoting was mediocre..but I yet dont refute the fact that she IMPROVEDDDDDDDDDDDDD...like APurva..even he was a bit crassy when he started JJKN,but he turned out to be one of the finest actors in telly when the show ended..everyone improved,but JJKN was a success only because of the story..Heck,The success that JJKn enjoyed wouldnt have altered a bit has sameer soni done the role of armaan,or has SS done the role of Mona...JJKn had one bloody script,which was so different and so refereshing that it struck a chord with everyone...

Originally posted by: tina59

I still stick that thse statements make them look very childish and immature and thats how it is .Do u realise that it hurts when someone tells you something which you dont beleive is right,well its the same for everyone and U have to understand that



Even my mother says that,so its fine with me lol 😆 ..But the reason you gave wasnt convincing..You said that I'm childish only because I said that konkona and nandita arent popular,and that they arent the top actors..that was preposterous...About the dance,well,As I said,I'll change my opinion if I see any plus sized woman dancing well,and when I do so,I'll tell you 😃



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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: tina59

The basic problem that we have is someone thats MS is being chosen to be degraded or insulted ot assumed to be disgraceful just bcoz of their physical traits if MS was some random aunty walking down the street who was as overweight as she is now; i promise you no one would say anything BUT MS is a tv actress -- and if thin tv actresses like shveta salve and sangita ghosh and manini de can exist and be thin then so can mona work out and be thin; yes there are tv actresses like smriti and RK buT rk does not harbour bwood dreams and nor does she go on recod to state that; RK does not dance away to glory on tv and even rk when she looks bad gets flak and smriti will be tulsi for life and be on tv for LIFe and if she is given a movie then she will play a mom--is mona ready to play mom😉 and thats totally unfair.My question is why should a post be started in the first place criticising abt anyones physical trait,is that the most important thing to look for in an actress . well an actress who wants to make it big in bwood and has reiterated the fact in 746378246382478329472389 intvbws NEEDS to be thinYeah bollwood gives more importance to the figure than the acting talent butdoes that make it right ,No IT DOESNT.its bwood --they need to be thin to enter it--no arguments neededwE ARE STILL HUMAN BEINGS WHO UNDERSTAND THAT ITS WRONG TO CRITICISE OR JUDGE ANYONE BASED ON THEIR PHYSICAL TRAIT. in real life it is wrong BUT bwood and tv and modelling NEED one to be thin--if that wasnt the case then ash would never have toned down for dhoom 2 and bips would keep on being as overweight as she was in the one love song with abhi

does anyone start a new post here for someone who is thin or someone who is tall or someone who is short. ppl have said that SS is toooooo thin😕Maybe some feel that being thin or short or tall is "ugly" ,so do we have numerous posts here criticising all those who fall under this category ,well let those posts start as well; the more arguments the more livelier😛NO bcoz we know that its wrong and unfair to judge or assume anyone based on their physical trait and thats the fact and the main problem that some of them have. well here's the thing---just as an example no one over the size 4 looks good in skinny jeans however ppl accept the fact and do not buy it and if they complain everyone says that they soo wish they were able to buy those jeans and that is why they are complaining--likewise in a field where being skinny is a prerequisite and one KNOWS that the fat aunties are dying to be skinny although not admitting it; it is unfair to say--oh physical looks do not matter--its a visual medium NOT the radio or not a university or not a bank where talent and hard work matters the most😕
They seem to have this belief that only those who are thin can dance gracefully and automatically assume that all those who are plump cant dance,ok its fair coz thats what they have been exposed too but does that make it fair and justified ,NO,atleast for me NO and thats when the debate starts. it is based on watching--like i said i have been dancing since i was 5 and fat people cannot carry their weight around on the dance floor; it looks bad and awkward--why is it that mona's choreographer is hoping that she loses weight. i mean if she was really as perfect as you make her out to be no one would ask he to lose weight would they now and articles wouldnt be printed about her weight!!please accept the facts!!

The point is whatever field they may be , physical trait should not be considered for their success ,thier hardwork and talent is what matters most,atleast for me,it does. refer above--tv is a visual medium and one must not harbour bwood dreams if one is supersizedwhy is it that farah khan does not dance but instructs???

Yes I would call all those immature coz one has to learn and not stick to these unfair and false assumptions and form an opinion . well we would call the blind glorification immature because no one is best friends with mona singh and she could cre less what ppl say and ppl would accept the whole "each to their own"Tomorrow if someone termed you as "ugly" just bcoz for them anyone of ur physical trait in their books means "ugly" ,wouldnt you be inclined to explain it to them . No i would seriously not care because there are ppl who appreciate me for what i am and i do not harbour dreams of going to bwood and i do not give 7642383724786324 intvws saying that i do and neither do i say that i will be 'sexy" at age 60and why wuld i even bother explaining it to ppl who do not count in my scheme of things; similiarly if ppl termed me "beautiful" i would also take it with a pinch of salt and not make dumb statements like "i will be sexy at 60"🤢🤢🤢

No one objected to anything written abt her acting she is an arite actor and we do give credit where it is due but claiming she CANT dance well BCOZ SHE IS FAT is unfair and in the end she is also a fellow human being mona is not a good dancer and she RUINEDDDDDDDDDDDD kajra re and we said that she looks awakward dancing because she is overweight--shama sikander is thin but she ruineddddd kajra re as well so plz get ur facts right---ruining kajrae re = badd dancer; carrying excess weight on the dance floor = awkward movements = bad visual🤢 and if one cant appreciate a fellow human beings talent or hardwork or effort then I am sorry it speaks a lot abt that persons immaturity for me. it is not an antakshari contest where the voice is looked at or it is not fame gurukul where the fame jodi has a plump contestand because she is a great singer--it is a dance competition and the awkwardness can be seen on tv!!OUCHHHH🤢and thus by ur logic the choreographer is immature because he is asking mona to loose weight???

for eg some totally ignore the fact that she was the one who the character jassi to life yes and who then said that she was TIRED of being jassi and disheartened that JJKN wouldnt end and that she was not jassi but mona only to change that statement again to her advantage and one should appreciate her for doing her job successfully and with lot of hard work and dedication and sincerety . smriti portrays tulsi successfully and is faaaaaaaaaaar more popular but does one see her dancing???NOPEBut what i hear is that some are not even willing to appreciate her for that and say that she shot to fame by luck .the JJKN storyline played a huge part--ppl liked the character and as soon as the real mona emerged the show plummetteddd and lost viewershipAs i have said earlier that it means that all those who go for an interview for a job and the one who actually gets the job as lucky coz even he/she gets the job based on some trait that the company wa slooking for and thats how he/she scored better than the others ,does that make them lucky, luck and one's conidence at an intvw do play a part--i mean someone who stutters thru the intvw might be as qualified as a confident person but may not get the jobNO coz they fitted the job description and won over equally qualified and educated people.In ms case,there were many talented ladies who had the desire and the talent had come to give the auditions but MS got the job coz the producers thought she fit the characer they wanted to play. she fell and was awakward and that suited jassi--MS admited this😕

Imaaturity is seen when someone doesnt even want to give credit to appreciate where its due. we said MS was a good actress but immaturity is also going onnn and onnn glorifying and not seeing the bad traits in one's favorite🤢

I still stick that thse statements make them look very childish and immature and thats how it is . oh really well then maybe the mature ppl can keeeeep on glorifying mona for the wrong reasons--smthng termed as fan craze which is considered to be more immatureDo u realise that it hurts when someone tells you something which you dont beleive is right,well its the same for everyone and U have to understand that but one could always look at smthng with an open mind and hear the other person's POV and if it doesnt match then Live and let live and go by the "each to their own" philosophy because trying to force someone to think as you do is a tad irritating😡

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: legallyblonde21

its a visual medium NOT the radio or not a university or not a bank where talent and hard work matters the most

bang on sheen....I guess this was what I was wanting to convey from then,but couldnt find the right words to put it across

Mona's in a visual medium,and she wants to climb the ladder to the next higher medium,where its LOOKS,LOOKS AND ONLY LOOKS/GODFATHER GODFATHER AND ONLY GODFATHER that matters for the initial breakthrough😊....if Mona is content being in tellywood,no one would say anything😊

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Originally posted by: Buffie

Tina,youre repeating yourself again...I think I've cleared up everything..No one is insulting mona,because she's not good looking...We only say that to our eyes,she doesnt look extremely beautiful,which in no way is disrespectful...I never say things like "EWWWWWWWWW,she's uglyyyyyyyyy"...That's an insult,the plain stating of the fact that we dont find her pretty is NOT any insult


ABout physical traits,well,Mona is in the entertainment field,and if people who pay money to watch her find her fat,they would say that......Its just human,that people feel that someone looks nice,or not nice,thin or fat......And please,I just started one thread saying that she looke fat in the JDJ promo(which she did..just check out her hands,...they surely werent thin)...Now,one post,when one sees a new promo,isnt wrong....You sound as thouh,My only job is to start posts everyday,saying "Mona is fat",which I dont do..WHy only Mona,we even say that RAkshandha is fat when her picture is posted...Does that make us diabolic wretches.,.NO...Now if RK says that i want to join bollywood,we'll say the same..If RK looks fat,we'll say it..If reva looks fat,and if her picture is posted..we'll say that she needs to hit the gym..that in NO WAY is bashing a star..those are plain comments.... to say that they need to hit the gym is fine as its called constructive criticism but to write them off and say that they wont be successful or they lack the talent is unfair . the fact is u started a post with th title ms in jdl promo looked FAT ,now who the hell starts a post like that ,why is it an issue bco u feel something for people who are "fat" and maybe u seem to have this assumption that "fat" people cant achieve their dreams or ambitions and thats a very immature beleif and as I said u will learn with time and age.



just as you dont feel its right,it doesnt become wrong...We have so many threads in other sections saying"kripa looks fat in this picture no".."Gauri pradhan has put on weight no"...Those threads,in no way are bashing threads.... why is it an issue in the first place,why is physical trait given so much importance ,why cant u understand the basic point that its unfair to write anyone off or discuss anyones physical trait as not being perfect. Why si it given so much importance that thats becomes the besis to form an negative opinion or determining their talent .





for the Nth time,I repeating this..In the entertainment field,looks matter....They want good looking,thin people....if delnaaz Paul goes to Aditya Chopra,and tells him"I'll work harder than all the priety's and rani's....I'm act better than them..Give me a role opposite Abhishek/Saif"...His answer would be"Sorry,not possible"...yes its not possible but is it fair ,NO ,is it justified,NO ,To reject a talented person just bcoz of theri physical trait is unfair and thats how it is.Hollwood has so many "fat " people or u can say 60-70-80 year olds act in the lead roles,thats bcoz for them physical trait doesnt hold value but their character and talent does and thats how it should be ...That's reality...lets face the harsh reality.....Now,if mona loses weight,and becomes like Tanushree Dutta,and if she starts lookign young,I myself would say that she needs to give Bollywood a try...trust me,I'll say that....




hey look,If i join movies of television,I become a public property.I'm paid,because people watch me..and they can say anything about me,my looks,my dress,my hair,my weight etcetera..because I'm earning money for my bread because these people watch me..So,I have to listen to their opinions and feedbackbut these are not opinion just merer assumptions and opinions based on ur exposure to that.,never mind if they are harsh..I have to improve on things which I can improve on(weight,dressing etcetera),yes and thats each ones persoanl decision .All i am saying is that when someone is in the acting field,should physical traits be the basis to judge them or talent.I beleive in talent and not looks and honestly thats why i appreciate south films more coz thats exactly what they do and beleiev in .I hope one day bollwood would come to that too but still its unfair and unjustified to reject someone for their physical trait.Why is it that people assume that plump people cant be beautiful or cant achieve fame or be graceful........do u honestly think fromt he bottom of ur heart that people in any industry,if they are "fat" become less beautiful or less talented ,if thats ur notion,u are immature and living in ur own fools paradise and I have to accept that Not all would find me beautiful..I'll be thankful to those who feel I'm pretty,i'd feel happy when they say that...and If anyone feels that I dont deserve to be where I am,I would reconcile myself saying that afterall,its just an opinion,which can never be right or wrong,as its just afterall a plain bloody opinion. yes but what if that same someone rejects you for being "not good looking " or "ugly" in their books even if are highly talented or educated and deserve a shot in that field . would u still say its justified and a fair process .




that's your opinion,and I wouldnt/would become imature only because you think so....But,that's what you feel,and Irespect that..I'm not here to prove my maturity or anything 😊 ..I honestly felt that way,after watching kajra reYou have to understand that dance is an art,some get the art of dancing naturally and some dont but they can learn and improve at it.Yes she danced to kajarare badly bcoz she isnt a good dancer but that doesnt mean she would be like that for the rest of her life. A person learn and tries to improve at it.If u see JDL ,she has vastly improved from being the "horrible kajarare dancer" to a much better one but why assume that she wont do well and she cant dance well .So u mean to say that all those who do it badly the first time or twice or thrice will ever be bad and will never ever do well .for eg driving test ,will u assume that one who fails the test twice will never ever get his/her license and they will never do it .Thats the exact thing thats happening.I have posts that says that she cant dance well or cant do salsa why for the silly reason that she is on the heavier side,duo u honestly think from the bottom of ur heart that its the right assumption u made and that "plump" people will never ever dance well or gracefully and that what u wrote was justified and right ,if it is then I would form an opinion of u and thats that this person has childish views and will learn with time and age,and after watching her previous performances,and after watching many plus sized women faltering....Now,I would change,if I see any plus sized woman dancing gracefully,and when I do,I wouldnt mind saying that to all..I would agree that I was immature,and that I have changed my opinion..I would definitely do it,as I'm not the one who puts up a facade and pretends 😊 good but pls do not assume anything



SHE was good as jassi,I never refuted that..But,she bagged the role due to pure luck..Hell,something that even she admits,why are you refuting that..she herself says that she was lucky to get the roleand thus ruling out all scopre for ambiguity...Period!..She got the job due to luck,now we havent even seen the others who auditioned...How could we say that Mona is the best.no she wasnt the best or maybe she was the best just like in an interview one cant say that the person who got the job was the best but there is something called requirements and job profile in every field and they would select the one that best fits them and its called "luck" ,luck is when u hit a jackpot in a lottery oer u get something without doing anything for it..Even Amithabh Bachchan was rejected many times before he did his first movie,..only because he was rejected,and some other one was chosen,does it mean that AB isnt good..NO...Its all luck..Initial breakthroug is Luck...anyone who had played Jassi would have been where Mona is now,as it wasnt the actor but the character who struck a chord with everyone..for gods sake,jassi as an imaginary character thatw as brought to life by Mona and you need to understand that .People liked the jassi in their screen but it was Mona was became jassi and gave us the jassi that we saw Initially mona was quite naive..her dialogue delivery was poor,and her expressions were patheticI disagree she was fabulous for a newcomer.She made me cry in the very first epiosde and that speaks a lot.She wore braces and specs and hid behind it for 2years and brought an imaginary character to life and I appreciate her for that ,for her sincereity and honesty to the role and for doing her job successfully and yeah she got fame and money for it which she thoroughly deserves ..she used to stand with that grim for like 4544551 minutes,as though she's posing for a photograph..she wasnt quick,her emoting was mediocre..but I yet dont refute the fact that she IMPROVEDDDDDDDDDDDDD...like APurva..even he was a bit crassy when he started JJKN,but he turned out to be one of the finest actors when the show ended..everyone improved,but JJKN was a success only because of the story..Heck,The success that JJKn enjoyed wouldnt have altered a bit has sameer soni done the role of armaan,or has SS done the role of Mona...JJKn has one bloody script,which was so different and so refereshing that it struck a chord with everyone...



Even my mother says that,so its fine with me lol 😆 ..But the reason you gave wasnt convincing..You said that I'm childish only because I said that konkona and nandita arent popular,and that they arent the top actors..that was preposterous..whats annoying is that u still have the opinion that only looks and money accounts for a persons success but u dont seem to understand the fact that for some it doesnt matter and their work and talent is the one that shines through and gives them satisfaction .For someone like me,I dont care how they look but they should do well in the role that they are given and do justice to it

all these glamour dolls would be forgotten when the next batch comes in like how parveen babi dies alone and was completely forgotten ,but someonel like smita patil or konkana ornandita will always be remembered for their acting and for being exceptional actresses and for getting accolades in their field .About the dance,well,As I said,I'll change my opinion if I see any plus sized woman dancing well,and when I do so,I'll tell you 😃 great and i am sure u will with more exposure and experience and age


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OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!-please please please can you just STOP analysing each and every word that i say!???!!!-PLEASE i beg you!!!..

..and sheenz i dont understand why u had to express disgust at having ever associated yourself with the tree huggies-i find myself checking if im in the right place coz this level of criticism was never expected😕-and u knw what Buffie i didnt create that post siddhi did-if i remember correctly!!😛-and even u included were all aboard the jassi mania at the time-so plz if i said something in jest at the time dnt use it against me!..

..and as for the example of mother teresa i used-well, that was for the sole purpose of pointing out to u that beauty is more than what we just perceive and it really is skin deep!-so plzzzzzzz dnt strt using as a basis for 'aishah bashing'🤢-lolz im a mature adult like you-so plz lets get over it!..

..lolz i used please a hundred times!..

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Originally posted by: Buffie

bang on sheen....I guess this was what I was wanting to convey from then,but couldnt find the right words to put it across

Mona's in a visual medium,and she wants to climb the ladder to the next higher medium,where its LOOKS,LOOKS AND ONLY LOOKS/GODFATHER GODFATHER AND ONLY GODFATHER that matters for the initial breakthrough😊....if Mona is content being in tellywood,no one would say anything😊

grow up girls........looks matter but who decides who's beautiful ,can anyone give me a word in the dictionary that describes the exact description of beautiful.Tomorrow one may find u ugly bcoz maybe ur nose is not proper according to them or ur eyes,ears or maybe u are too thin or too short ot too tall so .......... does that make u less beautiful ,NO coz there are some for whom beautiful means something else .So what if bollwood looks for thin sticks does that make MON less beautiful ,NO it doesnt coz each ones description of beautiful varies .

is there any fixed definition of beautiful which says "thin" "tall" "fair" no right coz each one has their own understanding of beautiful and u have to understand the fact that not all "fat"people are not less beautiful and once u understand that ,when u do that ,U will look at beauty in a different way

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this is going onnn and onnn in circles--why cant the THs just take anything negative being said--i am sorry to say but henceforth the tree huggies should not scorn at the SS fans in the KSBKBT section because at this moment there exists no difference between the two
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: legallyblonde21

this is going onnn and onnn in circles--why cant the THs just take anything negative being said--i am sorry to say but henceforth the tree huggies should not scorn at the SS fans in the KSBKBT section because at this moment there exists no difference between the two

Im all for constructive criticism😊-i take no offence to that-contrary to popular belief im not 'blind' to all that she does😛-and lollllz who scorned who???😕😕😆..

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