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Posted: 18 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: tina59

yeah buffie I was right then and I still stick to it.See I dont have any problems if u had said that mona would and can surely give bollwood a try if she oses a lottle bit of weight which is exactly the point that u have conveyed but the way u have conveyed it is surely in a negative way ,what u said was that she wont suceed and she will never enter bollwood as she is "fat" .Now both the statemenst are the same but the way its conveyed says it all.

I never wrote her off...I never said that no matter even if she becomes thin,she just CANNOT try, only because I dont like her..Let her become thin,and I'll definitely say that she must give it a chance..just like how I feel shvetha salve must give it a try😊.Perhaps I infelicitously

Even before i have said that each one has their own likes and dislikes and different perceptions and no one can judge as who is right or wrong but again if u still beleive in ur heart that a"fat "person becomes less beautiful or assume that they cant dance well then I def disagree to it and feel that its unfair .

No tina...Beauty has nothing to do with weight..and thus I said that most of the supermodels look very mediocre,whereas certain plump people look quite cute..Mona's looks has nothing to do with her weight😊...Weight is a repairable factor,and besides,one is really healthy if one is thin.....thus,being thin just helps in all aspects😊..One is healthy,one looks young,one looks attractive etc

the prblem that happened in ksbkbt was that they said that "we were jealous of shilpa " and that was ridiculous .Now u may argue that I said that some of u wre "imature " or "childish" but beleive me its not bcoz of ur disliking/lining Mona,its bcoz of making it an issue bcoz of her weight and writing her off bcoz of her physical aspect .

again,I only said that with her current weight,she cant join bollywood...i did say that just dreaming wouldnt helpl..she needs to make efforts(like losing weight,meeting producers etc)

I agree to ur point that whether fair or unfair ,bollywood does look at figue and one does need a godfather to succeeed and looking at that ,u can assume that Mona may never enter bollywood but one can surely hope positively that she gets a role and can enter bollwood based on her acting skills and her talent which is my viewpoint on this .

no,I never said that MONA IN THIS LIFETIME CAN NEVER ENTER BOLLYWOOD,NO MATTER WHAT....If she's thin,and if she looks a bit younger,she can definitely give it a try...but currently,Nope

why should we write anyone off.How do u feel if someone writes you off bcoz they didnt like what they saw in you. wont ur dreams and ambitions be crushed or wont u feel hurt or unjustified when u feel that u can succeed in that field with ur talent and hardwork . see it all comes across the way u put it .

No,I would be more inspired,to work hard and prove my detractor wrong...😛..I wouldnt mope about it,I would work harder,and would prove my competence....Like,looks is something that's basically unchangable,but one can always look one's best,if one works towards it...Now,If someone loses oodles of weight,and becomes thin,she would definitely look younger😃..and feel better....

Thanks for bringing back that thread buffie,I appreciate it. see I could have disliked you for wrting negative stuff but No

what did I write negative now..dont tell me I bashed you😕..just jolted your memory a bit😳

,I still aprreciate you for ur words and vocabulary and ur high debating skill.What i think is that some statements are just too neagtive and comes across as "immature" bcoz its something which all of us in ur age have done and assumed .Not that i am an "aunty"😆 ,I am 20 something but still with more time and once u grow older u get exposed to a lot of things and experiences that changes ur viewpoint and I say it again ,at that time ,starting a post esp abt a person physical trait in a neagtive way will not even come across ur mind

chalo,lets see.....but reiterating,I'm not against all fat people per se😭😭,just that I think bollywood wannabies must be thin😳

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Posted: 18 years ago
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seriously! the way bollywood is, thin is in. In fact, actresses like antara malli and mallika shrawat, neha dhupia are banking on just THAT! no, i am not bashing, but come on!! do they have any appeal other than being HOT?? that's bollywood. i know that there are very good actresses like konkana, porineeta's lead girl, sonali kulkarni, rani and kajol (in fanaa) for that matter. but even they donlt have the liberty to be just PHAT and not shapely thin. In fact, even rani unfortunately is called chubby in the ruthless industry. Kajol has earned her place after a solid demonstration of acting abilities. She also had a fair backing in the industry as those chromosomes have carried acting along over 3 generations!
Given that Mona is an upcoming star in this HARSH industry, it may take more than being PHAT and talented. Unfortunately, it would require a bit of weight loss. It is not what I / buffie / Moni would like to see (None of our business and we know that) , but that's what Bollywood demands apparently. Give me an example of a LEAD ACTRESS IN CURRENT bollywood who is the size of Mona. Give me just one :) u'll see what i am saying.
don't feel bad / hurt, ok? i am sorry if you do.. 😭

many hugs
qt
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Posted: 18 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: mermaid_QT

seriously! the way bollywood is, thin is in. In fact, actresses like antara malli and mallika shrawat, neha dhupia are banking on just THAT! no, i am not bashing, but come on!! do they have any appeal other than being HOT?? that's bollywood. i know that there are very good actresses like konkana, porineeta's lead girl, sonali kulkarni, rani and kajol (in fanaa) for that matter. but even they donlt have the liberty to be just PHAT and not shapely thin. In fact, even rani unfortunately is called chubby in the ruthless industry. Kajol has earned her place after a solid demonstration of acting abilities. She also had a fair backing in the industry as those chromosomes have carried acting along over 3 generations!
Given that Mona is an upcoming star in this HARSH industry, it may take more than being PHAT and talented. Unfortunately, it would require a bit of weight loss. It is not what I / buffie / Moni would like to see (None of our business and we know that) , but that's what Bollywood demands apparently. Give me an example of a LEAD ACTRESS IN CURRENT bollywood who is the size of Mona. Give me just one :) u'll see what i am saying.
don't feel bad / hurt, ok? i am sorry if you do.. 😭

many hugs
qt

OMG Subha di😃...so nice to see you back🤗

And btw, just what has actually happending when I haven't been here😕..although, I can see my name being mentioned in many places😕😃..thanks for that guys😛......

OKAY, I finally see yet another debate happening😵..and its the mona phat?fat/glorification/b'wood dreams/bashing/hypocrisy.......issue AGAIN! ! !😵😵😵

My view-->why don't we all just take a DEEEEEEEEEEEEEPPPPP breath😵 and let this one gently slide😛😛😛...purlease😳..I know its SO FUN debating😛, but I really do think this is enough debating for one day, don't cha think?😊..I mean, as if mona actually comes to this forum anyways😕...why are you guys wasting your breath??..if she were to, she'd probably dismiss it off as normal "fan behaviour" aka adulation😳..Yes, from BOTH sides😉...Anyways, Tree-Huggie's I have to say mona ought to be proud👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

P.S. Actually, I think we are all getting too obsessive here--->over this entire issue

So chill people !😎..and make time for those people who are actually in your lives aka your fellow JJKNians🤗...

lowe,

moni😛

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Posted: 18 years ago
#84

Originally posted by: Buffie


that's rigght....I have been debating about MS issues for god knows how long now,but thankfully,in this forum,it doesnt disrupt our rapport as in some other forums😃



😆 you guys are funny... you understand each other, you fight and you move on... 😳 tina and buffie i love your fights.you are like tom and jerry!! i would say buffie is sneaky jerry!! 😆
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Posted: 18 years ago
#85
tina59 wrote:
OMMMMGGGG 😲 each time I dont visit IF, therez something major 😆 😆 😆

And is this post targeted for us

Well, I have realized something offlate, sometime bk, we happend to comment abt mona being fat and tats when the whole trouble started...I mean there were ppl who used to bash SS left n right n just coz we called mona fat,the trouble was targeting someone bcoz she was healthy and thats unfair degrading anyone repeatedly bcoz of her being "fat" .Why si it a separate topic abt her being fat ,I mean is that the most important thing in a human being to determine how good or bad they are .Isnt something called personality and nature hold more value we r being hated Like many mentioned here, tat repetitive bashing is not gud, in the same way, repetitive imagining of Mona and Apu's bedroom scenes r even worse...Coz, we all know hez married and JJKN was just another soap. Just coz this soap had a chemistry which was a lot different, ppl dream abt gross things.I disagree ingfact people imagines a-j intimate scenes and not MandA intimate scenes,theres a difference . ..Plz tina, there have been endless instances when those intimate scenes r discussed and also ppl have new threads abt it and few ppl do imagine a lil extra, now dont tell me tat u disagree here...How come tat is not justified ??? how come ppl don't act mature in this instance ??? And y is tat we r called immature as we just talk abt mona being fat and mona cannot dance well etc etc ??? For tat matter, itz a fact tat shez fat but things certain ppl imagine and dream are not facts and tats more immature...yeah she has put on weight but why is an issue to make a fuss about ....so what,that doesnt make her less talented in her field . About her dancing,some may like it ,some wont but to say that she cant dance well or wont dance well without even seeing her performance and that too mainly bcoz she is plump isnt justified and thats where immaturity shows.
Itz not abt being mature or immature ok, itz just tat ppl very well know watz in demand currently....Well in such a competitive industry, ppl do expect to have gud figure apart frm acting skills, Mona is really fat compared to most of the lead heroines. When, smriti joined KSKBT, she was much better than wat she is now, but then her role right now is a 60yr old woman, so being fattt is ok, where as ppl like gauri or riva do maintain slim personality compared to mona....Forget abt bwood or TV for one moment, think abt any industry currently, to be successful in the industry, u gotta move wid the pace, u cant just remain thinkin i am pretty gud at one thing, where as the industry demands several things each day...

Even, when mona gave those contradictory interviews abt her being jassi, there was an uproar in the entire jjkn forum, ppl were really sad tat how could she say such a thing ? we all lowed her, how could she hurt us etc etc ??? n now u urself say tat shez never made such contradictions 😕

I dont wanna point out fingers at ppl here or hurt any...itz just tat, we are alwayz being targeted for no reason...We used to bash SS (which all of us did) and we have stopped tat now...but we never bashed mona, we just commented abt her...

Well...In my opinion, Buffie/sheenz/moni are the life-line in jjkn section, if they weren't present, we wouldnt have had such hot discussions like this 😛
We all come to have fun and letz continue to have it...
yes they are and will continue to be so and we will always enjoy thier posts,these debates keep happenening, we just have to move on and have fun like u said .

Well, all I can say is , this post might not have been for us, but it did give such an impression n u ppl did hurt our feelings by blaming us instead of looking things at a wider perspective. I mean just look at the entire thread, u have called us soooo many things frm basher, to immature, to childish to wat not 😭
Edited by honeylime - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
#86
😆😆Seriously Moni you did miss alot😉-and yes i was one of those who kept mentioning u but it was all good😛-and limey this post ill reiterate for the millionth time was not aimed at u guyz!!!-lolz i shud know i wrote it😛😆..oh and im really really sorry-4give me if i hurt your feelings!!🤗..
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Posted: 18 years ago
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I guess some of u got really hurt/offended by my statements abt beingchildish or immature ,I really apologise for that as I would never ever want to hurt anyone of my friends and I dont care even if i like an actor/actress ,its nothing infront of my friends .So from the bottom of my heart I apologise to all those who felt hurt and targetted .I am sorry
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Posted: 18 years ago
#88
no tina,its ok 😛 ...We werent offended,as we dont take things too seriously 😉 😆 ..Just get passionate,fight,then move on....then the next time,get all passionate,fight again,move on....and thus the story continues 😛
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Posted: 18 years ago
#89
thanks moni.
its so nice to see such a healthy relationship tinz, buffie,aish and everyone.
😃
luv u all
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Posted: 18 years ago
#90
limey dont worry.. 🤗

well .. glad to see the debate subsiding and everyone has fairly put across their points ... shall we bring it to an end then?

must be proud of the fact that debates here are good matured and level headed - better even than DM isnt so bindi? 😛 😉

i am closing this topic now so that ahem ahem 😳 we can all sleep in peace.

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