The difference between Atharva n ravish's reaction towards vividha

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monu_tan

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Posted: 8 years ago

#11

Very apt analysis.

And even before we talk about the Right, we should remrmber it was Vv who gave them the Rights. The men didnt have it themselves.

Honestly , Vv n Ravish were never more than friends. He can only interfere this much to ask her anything. She could do favors for him and he would do favors to her but thats at it.

Vitharv always owned each other like a soulmate. Atharv can even question Vvs dad if he feels Vv is unhappy just like Vv could tell off Sujata so that she can take care of baby Atharv. They would need no permissions from each other and could speak for each other.

Comparing the two connections is a joke really.

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*Reemz*

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Posted: 8 years ago

#12

Originally posted by: wickedangel

I am silent watcher of this show and watch is mostly because it is interesting story. But I had to say this today:

I think anyone who is saying that ravish did not have any rights over vividha and that is why his reaction does not count does not know anything about marriage. I am all for feminism and women's rights but that does not change the fact that ravish got married to a girl believing that she wanted to marry him and when he found out the truth his reaction showed that he is a good man who knows how to respect a woman and her choices.
Being a boyfriend for a year does not give a man a right over you to accuse and abuse. That is not how it works. I understand Atharv's anger completely and the fact that he feels betrayed but his reaction showed the difference between him and Ravish. He also needs to understand that being an adult is all about thinking before you react in a situation and if not trusting then at least giving the woman you claim to love a chance to say a couple of words in her own defence.

I think if you put yourself in Ravish's place and imagine the man you married loves someone else how would you feel? Do you think you would have the RIGHT to feel betrayed or just because he loves someone else the vows you took when you got married cease to matter?

I am not saying Vividha does not have a right to chose who she wants to be with but the fact remains that at the time she did get married to Ravish and his reaction to the betrayal he faced proved him to be a better man than the man she loves who has known her for a year or more and should know better than to call her a gold digger.

Gina

But when has Atharv claimed to be the perfect man? He is fully aware his anger gets to him but he's the same guy who kissed Vividha's foot to show respect, he's always treated her with respect, he's an upfront man.

Was Ravish the better man when he gas lighted his own wife and made her think she's going mad? What makes a better man? One who wears his heart on his sleeve or the one who believes in hiding all the time? That's all about perspective.

Of course Atharv shouldn't have said what he did but look at the situation he was put in. Vividha told Ravish don't forget, Atharv found out by chance. They're both such different men! At the end of the day how much did Ravish know Vividha to accuse her of anything? Instead he did make her pose as the bahu for his mothers sake.

The better man is all about perspective. For Vividha, she doesn't want the perfect man...she wants Atharv.

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jonjimmy

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Posted: 8 years ago

#13

Originally posted by: sweetygirl28
What's a man to do.
Some ppl were saying if Atharv did not question y vividha did not consider ravish feeling about breaking marriage then his ideals are wrong.

Now when he did that. Ppl are nor ready to look at it.

All they are bothered is about how he said some really obnoxious words. But he was hurt. He took his anger upon her.

The same ppl are cursing Atharv saying he is pathetic.

Only shows few ppl need a reason to accuse. Not understand the character.

Yes they just want to find fault with Atharva. It is just that they always mix-up the characterization of A and R. They are big good men. But the difference in their reaction does not mean that ravish is a better man than Atharva. Atharva was always sure of himself but ravish was always insecure with his self worth. Speaking in true fan girl language - Atharva is the' Awesome, will you marry me' guy and Ravish is 'poor baby, I will marry you' guy.

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monu_tan

@monu_tan

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Posted: 8 years ago

#14

Gold digger, atharv throughout phase 1 initial taunted Vv of being fond of riches n luxury due to her father.

Till he doesnt know the complete truth how else would he respond ?

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anjs

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Posted: 8 years ago

#15

hahaha... Yeah you can all it that...by all means...

but its down right insulting to dis-respect the woman that you love, by implying that she slept with her husband and she is a gold digger.

And before you say any thing about ASR, I am not gonna give explanation for his behavior here, for that you have to open a topic in IPK forum.

And please dont bother to reply, cause i am out of here 😆

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soniadutta

@soniadutta

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Posted: 8 years ago

#16

I never know that calling ur girl friend cheap and greedy shows sign of true love ?

He was pointing towards on her character ? And u all saying it was his right

Waoo great

When it comes to ravish ,u all searched all possible way to degrade him and give lectures of women empowerment and nayi soch and when comes to fav

Sab gaya tel Lene

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wickedangel

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Posted: 8 years ago

#17

Originally posted by: *Reemz*

But when has Atharv claimed to be the perfect man? He is fully aware his anger gets to him but he's the same guy who kissed Vividha's foot to show respect, he's always treated her with respect, he's an upfront man.

Was Ravish the better man when he gas lighted his own wife and made her think she's going mad? What makes a better man? One who wears his heart on his sleeve or the one who believes in hiding all the time? That's all about perspective.

Of course Atharv shouldn't have said what he did but look at the situation he was put in. Vividha told Ravish don't forget, Atharv found out by chance. They're both such different men! At the end of the day how much did Ravish know Vividha to accuse her of anything? Instead he did make her pose as the bahu for his mothers sake.

The better man is all about perspective. For Vividha, she doesn't want the perfect man...she wants Atharv.

You are right it is about perception and I am not saying Atharv is not a good character or he is evil or anything like that. I am just presenting my pov on this situation. I just feel that saying Ravish does not have any rights is absolutely ridiculous. I think that whoever is saying that does not know what marriage is all about. Again put yourself in Ravish's place and then tell me if you would feel any RIGHT to accuse or say anything or not.

Plus to say what vividha wants right now is a little presumptuous. Because this story is still going on and I am looking forward to seeing how it goes no matter who vividha ends up with. From what I can see there are three strong characters here who are all connected to each other and how those connections change over time will be interesting to watch.

Gina

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*Reemz*

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Posted: 8 years ago

#18

Originally posted by: wickedangel

You are right it is about perception and I am not saying Atharv is not a good character or he is evil or anything like that. I am just presenting my pov on this situation. I just feel that saying Ravish does not have any rights is absolutely ridiculous. I think that whoever is saying that does not know what marriage is all about. Again put yourself in Ravish's place and then tell me if you would feel any RIGHT to accuse or say anything or not.

Plus to say what vividha wants right now is a little presumptuous. Because this story is still going on and I am looking forward to seeing how it goes no matter who vividha ends up with. From what I can see there are three strong characters here who are all connected to each other and how those connections change over time will be interesting to watch.

Gina

What Vividha wants is not me presuming, it's what Vividha the character is telling me but simply because this marriage tag is on her head and we are so used to the cliched HDDCS type stories, we are refusing to hear what she keeps saying. She doesn't want to hurt anyone but fact is that she wants to be with Atharv. That is something she's so clear about so there's no presuming there. I think the marriage tag clouds people's judgements so much they can't hear what the girl is REPEATEDLY saying i.e. She LOVES Atharv, wants to be with him.

Of course Ravish could accuse her of not telling him beforehand but he actually got told the story from A to Z where as Atharv found out seeing Ravish & Vividha dancing. It's in his character to be patient, it's in Atharv's nature to react passionately but then Vividha is the same. When it comes to Atharv she is very passionate.

Edited by *Reemz* - 8 years ago

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jonjimmy

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Posted: 8 years ago

#19

Originally posted by: wickedangel
I am silent watcher of this show and watch is mostly because it is interesting story. But I had to say this today:

I think anyone who is saying that ravish did not have any rights over vividha and that is why his reaction does not count does not know anything about marriage. I am all for feminism and women's rights but that does not change the fact that ravish got married to a girl believing that she wanted to marry him and when he found out the truth his reaction showed that he is a good man who knows how to respect a woman and her choices.
Being a boyfriend for a year does not give a man a right over you to accuse and abuse. That is not how it works. I understand Atharv's anger completely and the fact that he feels betrayed but his reaction showed the difference between him and Ravish. He also needs to understand that being an adult is all about thinking before you react in a situation and if not trusting then at least giving the woman you claim to love a chance to say a couple of words in her own defence.

I think if you put yourself in Ravish's place and imagine the man you married loves someone else how would you feel? Do you think you would have the RIGHT to feel betrayed or just because he loves someone else the vows you took when you got married cease to matter?

I am not saying Vividha does not have a right to chose who she wants to be with but the fact remains that at the time she did get married to Ravish and his reaction to the betrayal he faced proved him to be a better man than the man she loves who has known her for a year or more and should know better than to call her a gold digger.

Gina

Yes, he has a right to feel betrayed. But degree of betrayal was never same as that of Atharva. Even though they were married he always had a sense that something was bothering vividha. There were never any ground for his expectations from vividha except for this that she married him. His calm reaction could be stated as he was understanding enough to view matters in her POV. The confrontation explained to him why vividha was always weird with him. So he felt that he does not have the right to feel betrayed for his expectations which even from the beginning he had a sense that vividha did not share the same sentiment. So comparing his reaction with Atharva is not fair. Though the secret was almost same the situation or the feelings of the concerned person were never same.

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wickedangel

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Posted: 8 years ago

#20

@ Reemz

I agree that is exactly what Vividha is saying but that's not what she is doing. That is what I find to be so interesting about her character. It is definitely her right to make that choice and she should just make a clean break remove the sindoor/MS sign divorce papers and get the heck out. Which is what I would do. Divorce is not easy in any situation but the least she should do is move out of the house and keep the process going. Whether she then decides to be with Atharv after that is her decision. But then why is she hesitating in leaving with Atharv? And people cant say that it is because she does not want to be selfish about this. That is ridiculous. You cant have it both ways. If she cared about what that she would not have kept her relationship with Atharv going while she was wearing a mangalsutra. She obviously did not care about it then so why now? Obviously something is stopping her even if it is not very obvious at this time. As an impartial observer I feel like in time things are going to change but that is my pov.

And marriage is not a TAG. It is a legal institution that should be respected. I am not saying that does not give a right to a woman to make her choice about who she wants to live with. In this case, Vividha was forced to get married but the fact remains that Ravish is also an innocent victim in this situation. It is not his fault either but his reaction in this matter makes me like him more as a viewer. Same goes for Atharv who is also innocent in the situation life has dealt him, just like Ravish and Vividha, but his reaction to it is not something I liked at all. Not as a viewer and definitely not as a woman who would not stand for any man treating her like this.

p.s. I did not like HDDS at all not because it was cliched but because I love my SK. I did not understand where Aish's character was coming from at the time but then I was really young when I watched it. Now as an adult I can say that life is so much more complicated and cannot be decided based on a few kisses. As important as passion as, sometimes you need a man who would think and react rather than accuse and abuse. In HDDS my SK was amazing and still makes me cry when I watch him cry in the end.

Edited by wickedangel - 8 years ago

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