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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mages

I am quite surprised with the comments that some feels nishi is right in her own way...😕

first of all nishi has no rights to interfere in the matters of her parents divorce and marriage...she is kid...behave as one...one should not speak...when you don't know abt the issue...instead of being judgemental abt your mother...just shut up...
Nishi is an adult, even though she is Ragini's daughter she is a grown woman and is entitled to her opinion right or wrong. she is also entitled to expressing thisalso. I will go so far as to say she even takes after her mother she who is also very judgemental!

ragini has her own reasons not to reveal her divorce issues to kids...even neil did not reveal his divorce issue to ranbir...agam...suhani...the parents has a secret and they want to keep it for themselves...i feel kids should not interfere in elders issue...and respect their parents privacy

They have a right to ask, again Nishi is not a 10 year old asking she is somewhere between 18-21 (?)

nishi can be angry...frustrated...but this is not the way to talk to elders...she was very rude to aman-ragini...i felt like slapping her...if she was my daughter...she raises her voice on me ..i would have slap her and shut her mouth and ask her go to her room...ragini was being soft towards her...even aarav would have got a slap from me if he is my son...kids has a limit to interact with parents...stay within the limits. ...parents loves us and they are guide of our lives...fulfill our wishes...doesn't mean when things doesn't go your way...you raise your voice to your parents...insult and taunt them...question abt your parents marriage/divorce...

I find slapping someone very violent, we are supposed to be civilised society what is the need for violence. What is wrong if Nishi questions her mom? I guess it is different strokes for different folks. Who is Dr Aman in this picture. Yes Nishi is unnecssarily rude, she could have asked these questions politely but she is standing by (like her mother) what she believes in and has no hesitation in expressing her views!

i agree...ragini does not communicate with her brats...but that doesn't mean those 2 insolent brats has the rights to raise voice on their mother...insult her...taunt her...neither they have rights to raise voice on their mother's friend...
If they cannot speak freely in their own house where can they? Why do they have to be so subservient? Look at their parents where do you think the kids get it from? The parents are so screwed up that to hurt each other they split the kids! Why do you think the kids of such parents will behave reasonably? The apple never falls far from the tree let their anger out since they feel comfortable enough to express their views, even if they seem insolent doing so?

when kids are in wrong...elders has the rights to stop them...when the parent's friend treats the kids as their own...even karan has the rights to stop ranbir...agam...suhani if they are wrong since they are also his kids...why shouldn't aman do that...nishi was wrong and he treats nishi as his own daughter...he has the right to stop her when she is wrong...even aarav

Dr Aman has not been portrayed as a parent-like figure so far. In his mind she is like a daughter to him, but in her mind he is the absent minded boss and friend of her mom. I would expect that Nani would have had a stronger role and reaction to this, but perhaps Nani is a soft person and does not disagree with anyone

nishi should be grateful to aman that its becos of him...she and aarav are educated and her marriage expenses are taken care of by aman...not her father...she should respect him for what he has done for her family...whether its education or marriage...ragini has taken a loan from aman...
Nishi does not know this not sure ragini shared all this with her kids she handled it herself very bravely as she probably wanted to protect her kids from all these problems. But that;s not Nishi's fault for not knowing, although as a 20 year old you would think she would have a clue or at least would be curious enough to ask, even if her mother never shared. But as I said earlier, she is so focused on herself that nothing more can be expected of her.

many says nishi loves her mother...i feel she loves herself only and same goes for aarav...if they really love their mother...if things doesn't go their way...they would not shout..taunt and hurt their mother...if she really loves her mother...she would not have taken the decision to runaway and marry her spineless jiggy boy...its only after reaching the station...she realise she is doing wrong...that realisation should have arise when spineless jiggy and his illiterate parents gave her the idea of running away from house...and she tells those people that she cannot leave her mother in shame for a a guy's love
I still thinks she does although she disagrees with her mom. In the heat of the moment like her mom she made a bad decision and later she fixed it. Unlike her mother who split the kids and for the fear of loosing her kids distanced Agham even now!
Also Jiggy has some spine, he stood up for Nishi against his mother. I find what Daadi did was right, if the tables were turned Ragini would have done the same. She treats Jiggy's parents the same way Pam treats her, with disdain mostly. Yes they seem like they are nouveau riche, gaudy and uneducated, but they are mostly nice, They seem honored to have Nishi as their DIL.
What does Nishi bring to the party anyway - no money, no real education (at least she shows no interest) baggage (her mom is steeped in values and never shares her thoughts, but tries to control every move of Nishi's). I agree Jiggy is not a prize, but I am sure if they looked around they could find someone who will be happy to be a stay at home wife to Jiggy and look after them in their old age, the way his mom cares for her mil.

In line! I'm also opinionated like you except our opinions dont match😉
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: vann


But nishi is too lost in her dreams of getting wed to see anthing else...no loyalties, no respinsibilities...

True but her parents are no better they are caught up in their hatred for each other. The 3 women in her life are her mom, her naani and Sunny Tai. Of all of them I think she would have benefited more if she made Sunny Tai her role model, Naani is too soft and Ragini too complex to understand!
I think people need to get a license to have kids! If they dont pass a test they cannot have kids! The population and the problems in the world will be much lesser!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Nishi was always disgusting, she brought back her father into her mother's life knowing how much it would break her mother, all because she wanted to get married to a man who cannot even stand up for her.
Ragini may be harsh, but Nishi has witnessed everything that she has gone through, so it baffles me to see such behavior. For her to blame her mother only? It takes two to tango. And I do not see what Ragini did wrong in wanting to punish a male who caused an accident and left a female to die? Is that wrong? If her so called in laws think that is wrong then they are perfect for Nishi.


I refuse to see Nishi in a different light, she doesnt even care about her siblings, we dont see them bond. She only cares about her wedding. She doesnt care who she hurts in the process and has no guts to strand up to those who are really wrong. Aur shaadi karna chati hai! Good Luck, I cant wait to see her cry when she realises what a wimp Jignesh truly is.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: _innocent_

Nishi was always disgusting, she brought back her father into her mother's life knowing how much it would break her mother, all because she wanted to get married to a man who cannot even stand up for her.

Ragini may be harsh, but Nishi has witnessed everything that she has gone through, so it baffles me to see such behavior. For her to blame her mother only? It takes two to tango. And I do not see what Ragini did wrong in wanting to punish a male who caused an accident and left a female to die? Is that wrong? If her so called in laws think that is wrong then they are perfect for Nishi.


I refuse to see Nishi in a different light, she doesnt even care about her siblings, we dont see them bond. She only cares about her wedding. She doesnt care who she hurts in the process and has no guts to strand up to those who are really wrong. Aur shaadi karna chati hai! Good Luck, I cant wait to see her cry when she realises what a wimp Jignesh truly is.


And it doesn't stop over there. Did you listen to her rants on the day of the Puja?

'Everyday so many accidents happen, so many people die, so many people don't get justice. So what is it with Ragini trying to bring the culprit to the docks?'

I mean seriously? 😲

Shilpa is someone she knows. This is how she feels about that girl? I am sure she wouldn't have cared if it was her Mother involved either? All she wants is for the marriage to happen. Good for her.

And Aarav -he supposedly loves Shilpa. Ok, I get it, he was worried about Nishi's marriage and hid the truth. But isn't Shilpa's life worth anything? And he didnt even mention that it was the Snake who had given him the phone. Pretty selective amnesia. Further, if he had realised his fault, frankly he shouldn't have driven the bike home. What crap!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: poetic


And it doesn't stop over there. Did you listen to her rants on the day of the Puja?

'Everyday so many accidents happen, so many people die, so many people don't get justice. So what is it with Ragini trying to bring the culprit to the docks?'

I mean seriously? 😲

Shilpa is someone she knows. This is how she feels about that girl? I am sure she wouldn't have cared if it was her Mother involved either? All she wants is for the marriage to happen. Good for her.

And Aarav -he supposedly loves Shilpa. Ok, I get it, he was worried about Nishi's marriage and hid the truth. But isn't Shilpa's life worth anything? And he didnt even mention that it was the Snake who had given him the phone. Pretty selective amnesia. Further, if he had realised his fault, frankly he shouldn't have driven the bike home. What crap!

Nahii yaar, I always FF her scenes, her mere presence on screen is enough to make me wanna puke! Her and Pam are truly related, i have to admit.😆

@bold, the day it happens to her, we shall see. She is so blinded with satisfying her ego of marrying Jignesh that she fails to realise that Jignesh does not truly love her. Jignesh doesn't have the backbone to stand up for her and yet for him she is ruining her relationship with her mother. Khair Ragini will never turn her back on Nishi, but she needs a zor ka jhakta zaroor which Jignesh and co will provide bherrry soon.

Shilpa, we were all wrong about her. She respects Ragini so much that she accepted her words and elected not to prosecute Ranbir. Strangers have more of a heart than her own loved ones. And Aarav does not love Shilpa, he has proven it by his behavior. We wanted him to open his eyes, but in reality its the reverse. Shilpa should not give him a second glance.

Lying and protecting are more important than acquiring justice and putting a ruthless moron behind jail. Great minds they have.And maybe Nishi has amnesia. She brought that disgusting brother of hers on scene, not Ragini. So if she wants someone to blame, she needs to look in a mirror.

Aaj ke chokri is lecturing her mother on how to manage a married life, kuchbhi!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: _innocent_

Nahii yaar, I always FF her scenes, her mere presence on screen is enough to make me wanna puke! Her and Pam are truly related, i have to admit.😆

@bold, the day it happens to her, we shall see. She is so blinded with satisfying her ego of marrying Jignesh that she fails to realise that Jignesh does not truly love her. Jignesh doesn't have the backbone to stand up for her and yet for him she is ruining her relationship with her mother. Khair Ragini will never turn her back on Nishi, but she needs a zor ka jhakta zaroor which Jignesh and co will provide bherrry soon.

Shilpa, we were all wrong about her. She respects Ragini so much that she accepted her words and elected not to prosecute Ranbir. Strangers have more of a heart than her own loved ones. And Aarav does not love Shilpa, he has proven it by his behavior. We wanted him to open his eyes, but in reality its the reverse. Shilpa should not give him a second glance.

Lying and protecting are more important than acquiring justice and putting a ruthless moron behind jail. Great minds they have.And maybe Nishi has amnesia. She brought that disgusting brother of hers on scene, not Ragini. So if she wants someone to blame, she needs to look in a mirror.

Aaj ke chokri is lecturing her mother on how to manage a married life, kuchbhi!


I mean seriously. 😡

How much does she know about the past? How does she know who is at fault? Seriously mentally challenging
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: poetic


The eating was not about food. It was more about Ragini trying to take control of the situation herself and not break down. Irrespective of the accusations, she does know that she needs to fix up the broken marriage first, of all things. It wouldn't help if she goes about crying and cloying.

All these years, she have reached a stage where she takes refuge in an emotionless stage, so that all these does not affect her. It affects her of course, but she knows that all responsiility lies on her shoulders and that she needed to fulfill them before thinking about herself. She is actually depriving herself of emotions and feelings, IMHO< she is an introvert by nature.

If after all these, we feel that she was enjoying the food while her children went hungry, then we absolutely have not understood Ragini at all, irrespective of her faults. Not even a zilch. Sorry.


Of course she was not enjoying the food. That would make her not only emotionless but inhuman too. But I DO NOT agree with members that Nishi is disgusting. I have seen a lot of teenagers. I have seen my cousins fighting with their parents to marry the person of their choice. I have seen my uncle and aunt disown their daughter only to embrace her back. I am not saying what Nishi did is right. All I am saying that she should be judged as a 19-year old, who is heartbroken and emotionally vulnerable. If a child cannot speak out to her mom, who can she? No, i do not agree with you that kids always have to be nice. Nishi was deeply hurt and she said incorrect things out of hurt and pain. I am sure Ragini will forgive her. But as a mother ragini should stand by her and feel her pain, and show her sorrow instead of trying to be normal and strong.

Yes, i am baffled by Ragini character. Yes I do not understand her. I find her extremely low on emotional quotient. I have seen introvert people misunderstood the most in life. Communication has to be open in order to avoid situations like this. From day one Nishi saw her mom against this marriage whereas her dad supported it. The way Ragini tried to stop the wedding by misbehaving with Jignesh family is also uncalled for. I wonder what our honorable members think about that. Was her behavior right? To invite the boy's family and humiliate them? Then she accepted the marriage because Nachiket called her but with a lot of anger and grievance. Eventually she agreed toa 5-year delayed marriage. As a mother she is concerned, and that is understandable. But from a 19-year old's perspective, she is seen as someone opposing Nishi's choice at every step.

I also have problems with how she dealt with ranbir. I don't understand her at all. Two days ago she was hell bent on getting him punished. Then she goes and breaks down near Shilpa crying about ranbir. She says that she did not know that Shilpa was conscious. but Aman goes and tells Agam that she requested Shilpa to change her statement as Shilpa got well. If Pam or Nivi requested Shilpa, it would be very bad and unethical. i am sure our members would bash them. But Ragini changing her principal is ok with our members. No one is raising any Q why ragini let go Ranbir without punishment. Was it right to Shilpa. Yes, I do not understand her character and I cannot sympathize with her at this point.

Q regarding Shilpa here - She and her mom were shown to be chasing guys. She was about to go on a bike ride with Aarav and swiftly changes her mind for a car ride. She stands in the car and asks Ranbir to drive fast. She was wronged grossly by Ranbir when he fled the site leaving her bleeding but she should not have gone out in the first place. but from day one she is shown to be going out with guys who have bike or have better material prospect. So I do think she is a bit responsible for what happened because of her irresponsible behavior. Please don't assume I am justifying Ranbir. But please I will like to know how Ragini is absolved of the crime of requesting Shilpa to change her statement? What about justice to Shilpa? No single post on that? Is it because Ragini asked her to change the statement? Wow! baffles me.

I also find it hard to accept that she divided the kids during divorce and made a deal not to find out about them ever in life. What kind of mother will do that? Specially Agam? He was a baby needing his mother the most at that time.

I understand she struggled a lot and deserves respect and love for that. At the same time I am saying that her kids do not disrespect or love her less. They are just emotionally bruised at this point and needs a loving friend in their mother, not a person who is overly practical and emotionally detatched. Sometimes mothers need to shed their image and become friends - laugh, cry, share, hug, and spoil kids too. Sometimes parents have to give them the thing their kids want not what they want -

Regarding Aman - if he is such a well wisher, really ragini should marry him and move on. i see lot of members against reuniting with her husband, not even for the sake of their children, then sure, she should convert her fake drama to real and accept him as a husband. Otherwise he has no right to interfere between mother and daughter. I am sureRagini did not ask for his help, going by her righteous personality. He did it on his own. But since he is not their dad, he cannot interfere. And the story did not even show him close to Ragini's children? Did we see anything to tell us that Aman was their favorite Aman uncle, spending time with them, helping them like a dad? No we did not. How members are making assumption that Aman did a lot for them I have no idea. i see him running behind Ragini - smitten by her but so far not concerned about children. Why will children allow him to interfere in family matters all of a sudden? They don't know he is their FAKE DAD.

I am surprised that few days ago I read posts by members praising Ragini's upbringing and her kids. I read posts how nice AArav and Nishi are compared to Ranbir. It took just one episode for them to change their mind. An emotionaly hurt Nishi says something unkind and she becomes disgusting and selfish. Sorry, i cannot agree to that. Kids always have attachment to their biologocal parents. Even in case of adopted kids - they tend to have weakness for biological parents. Indeed I find nothing selfish about Nishi trying to contact her dad. It is natural, happens in real life, and it is only surprising that it did not happen earlier.
Edited by JuhiRockz - 10 years ago
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@JuhiRocks, I blame Ragini and Neil for their children's behavior. They are so entangled in their we of hatred for one another, that they failed to understand how it has affected their children. In fact they both refuse to even acknowledge their kids because of their silly pact.
But that does not take away from the children's behavior. NISHI is disgusting. No right child would speak to their mother in such a manner. I am 23 years of age and have never spoken to my mother like that. The day I speak with my mother in that tone, I guarantee you she will not think twice before showing me my place. This is not the first time, Nishi has behaved in this manner. Its her way or the highway. This is from a girl who stated she is ready to marry. She refused to finish her education because marriage was more important, in fact she believes had she been in her mother's place she would have been a better wife and mother. Oh well, we shall see when her own loserish of a fiancee shows her the finger when they get married Then perhaps she will understand the in and outs of life.

I find it utterly laughable that you are willing to crucify only Ragini. She may have come up with that deal but was Neil obliged to agree? I would argue no, so why is she the only one getting the heat from the children? Why is Nishi not willing to use that huge gob of hers to set her so called in law straight and tell them, I brought my brother onto the scene, i love him and if my soon to be husband has no guts to stand up for me, then he does not deserve me? Or does her mouth only yap when its in front of her mother, whom she knows will not say much to her?

Why does Nishi not hold her father responsible? Why is she not questioning why he never made contact with her, why only blame the mother? Why only question Ragini? Its always easy to blame the woman for being a bad wife or a bad mother, after-all the male toh bhagwan hai.

Aman interfered because he was disgusted with the way Nishi was speaking with her mother.If the grandmother can stand there and listen to such shit, someone else had to intervened, surely?

I dislike Ragini's attitude towards her children ie Agam. She is mean to him, her motherly love never comes out for him when he is there and that pisses me off. BUT I will not overlook Neil's involvement or Nishi and Aarav's disgusting behavior. *My father would be better, you must be the cause of the divorce? Like really? DISGUSTING children. In fact the *D* term is too mild of a word to be using for these two brats.*


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: JuhiRockz


Of course she was not enjoying the food. That would make her not only emotionless but inhuman too. But I DO NOT agree with members that Nishi is disgusting. I have seen a lot of teenagers. I have seen my cousins fighting with their parents to marry the person of their choice. I have seen my uncle and aunt disown their daughter only to embrace her back. I am not saying what Nishi did is right. All I am saying that she should be judged as a 19-year old, who is heartbroken and emotionally vulnerable. If a child cannot speak out to her mom, who can she? No, i do not agree with you that kids always have to be nice. Nishi was deeply hurt and she said incorrect things out of hurt and pain. I am sure Ragini will forgive her. But as a mother ragini should stand by her and feel her pain, and show her sorrow instead of trying to be normal and strong.

Yes, i am baffled by Ragini character. Yes I do not understand her. I find her extremely low on emotional quotient. I have seen introvert people misunderstood the most in life. Communication has to be open in order to avoid situations like this. From day one Nishi saw her mom against this marriage whereas her dad supported it. The way Ragini tried to stop the wedding by misbehaving with Jignesh family is also uncalled for. I wonder what our honorable members think about that. Was her behavior right? To invite the boy's family and humiliate them? Then she accepted the marriage because Nachiket called her but with a lot of anger and grievance. Eventually she agreed toa 5-year delayed marriage. As a mother she is concerned, and that is understandable. But from a 19-year old's perspective, she is seen as someone opposing Nishi's choice at every step.

I also have problems with how she dealt with ranbir. I don't understand her at all. Two days ago she was hell bent on getting him punished. Then she goes and breaks down near Shilpa crying about ranbir. She says that she did not know that Shilpa was conscious. but Aman goes and tells Agam that she requested Shilpa to change her statement as Shilpa got well. If Pam or Nivi requested Shilpa, it would be very bad and unethical. i am sure our members would bash them. But Ragini changing her principal is ok with our members. No one is raising any Q why ragini let go Ranbir without punishment. Was it right to Shilpa. Yes, I do not understand her character and I cannot sympathize with her at this point.

I also find it hard to accept that she divided the kids during divorce and made a deal not to find out about them ever in life. What kind of mother will do that? Specially Agam? He was a baby needing his mother the most at that time.

I understand she struggled a lot and deserves respect and love for that. At the same time I am saying that her kids do not disrespect or love her less. They are just emotionally bruised at this point and needs a loving friend in their mother, not a person who is overly practical and emotionally detatched. Sometimes mothers need to shed their image and become friends - laugh, cry, share, hug, and spoil kids too. Sometimes parents have to give them the thing their kids want not what they want -

Regarding Aman - if he is such a well wisher, really ragini should marry him and move on. i see lot of members against reuniting with her husband, not even for the sake of their children, then sure, she should convert her fake drama to real and accept him as a husband. Otherwise he has no right to interfere between mother and daughter. I am sureRagini did not ask for his help, going by her righteous personality. He did it on his own. But since he is not their dad, he cannot interfere. And the story did not even show him close to Ragini's children? Did we see anything to tell us that Aman was their favorite Aman uncle, spending time with them, helping them like a dad? No we did not. How members are making assumption that Aman did a lot for them I have no idea. i see him running behind Ragini - smitten by her but so far not concerned about children. Why will children allow him to interfere in family matters all of a sudden? They don't know he is their FAKE DAD.

I am surprised that few days ago I read posts by members praising Ragini's upbringing and her kids. I read posts how nice AArav and Nishi are compared to Ranbir. It took just one episode for them to change their mind. An emotionaly hurt Nishi says something unkind and she becomes disgusting and selfish. Sorry, i cannot agree to that. Kids always have attachment to their biologocal parents. Even in case of adopted kids - they tend to have weakness for biological parents. Indeed I find nothing selfish about Nishi trying to contact her dad. It is natural, happens in real life, and it is only surprising that it did not happen earlier.


Nishi is a teenager, she has right to question her parents and has every right to wish that both her parents be with her on her wedding,

parents needs to treat their teenage kids like friends we need to sit and talk to them to know whta is happening in their lives what problem they have and how to solve them. that way they dont go on a wrong path by trying to solve their problems on their own but here ragini only order the kids what to do and the way she looks at jignesh parents is as if she is very smart and they are dumb, maybe they are uneducated but ragini has no right to treat them like that. when pam called them dumb neil shut her up and we actually need someone to shut ragini up also.

Ragini has hurt agam so many times with her words and action, and has no nice words to talk to nishi about her broken marriage, she has no emotional bond with any of her kids. and what is that upbringing to talk to neil about when she has not given any time or support to her kids. she will always be ready to give lecture to neil about his kids,

what Sunny tai said was right, she send ranbir to jail because he is neil's son and jignesh dadi questioned her about aman being at her place all the time, but she does nothing to correct all those according to her whatever she does is right,

When neil came to know about nishi he went to aman to go to jignesh house to talk to them , but what did ragini do , nothing but check the stock at the hospital and eat dinner.

I agree she worked hard to take care of the kids but it was her choice the kids didnot ask her to leave her husband and take care of them alone instead of dividing the kids she should have sent all the kids with neil. then she din't have to work to take care of the kids.

I would better be without a mom than have a mom like ragini.

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Originally posted by: _innocent_

Nishi was always disgusting, she brought back her father into her mother's life knowing how much it would break her mother, all because she wanted to get married to a man who cannot even stand up for her.

TRUE - warna hamari story nahi hoti 😉
Ragini may be harsh, but Nishi has witnessed everything that she has gone through, so it baffles me to see such behavior. For her to blame her mother only? It takes two to tango. And I do not see what Ragini did wrong in wanting to punish a male who caused an accident and left a female to die? Is that wrong?
No absolutely thats not wrong, but Nishi is so selfish she cannot see beyond her immediate problem. She believes her mom did not want her to be married since she is heart broken, she lashed out!

If her so called in laws think that is wrong then they are perfect for Nishi.
They were her in laws to be I'm not sure what you mean by "so called" Their problem was not that Ragini sent him to jail, but that he did something resulting in him going to jail. As the Daadi said if their relative was in jail would Ragini have accepted Jignesh?


I refuse to see Nishi in a different light, she doesnt even care about her siblings, we dont see them bond. She only cares about her wedding. She doesnt care who she hurts in the process and has no guts to strand up to those who are really wrong. Aur shaadi karna chati hai! Good Luck, I cant wait to see her cry when she realises what a wimp Jignesh truly is.
Refusing to see Nishi in a different light is your prerogative, but in general why would you wish anyone bad luck even if it is a fictional character?

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