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Originally posted by: VeiledWords

the intent of the post was that Lavanya wasn’t concerned with hiding a baby bump as we were all trying to say. And Arnav wasn’t running away from owning up to his mistake. So it’s moot to argue that they should have kept mum or Manali should have kept things under wrap. Or how good of a publicity artists they were. Or what it would have done to public eye. Every thing was already in place. The only target was Arnav who was simply being an upstanding human. There’s no point in arguing what Lavanya thought it would do to her career. It was never in jeopardy. Edit - learn I can’t tag you for some reason.

Originally posted by: VeiledWords

hi Swati. I am not dodging any questions. I just tried to clear Arnav’s stance that’s all. And I have already agreed that even if the news is false, his actions and even thoughts alone might hurt Khushi to the point of no redemption. She isn’t aware of Arnav’s conditions either. For her it will seem like what you’re saying is right. But we know a bit more than her, right?

reiterating my points by your comments - 1. I have explicitly mentioned he is part of an industry where these things are common. You said so yourself. Happens at a rave. He left early. And I gave my reasons for not suspecting Lavanya will ever take a legal or malignant action. But I will reiterate once again.

• It’s a rave organised by her at her house. To accept such a thing happened there where Arnav took advantage of her would be opening a can of worms for her. a woman who has an extremely clean image in public
• Why won’t he think pregnancy might be an issue? He said this to Lavanya and I said this in my response. Sex is too common in the industry, he isn’t wrong to assume an actress like lavanya wouldn’t take precautionary measures. (And may I point that he is right. She does have an IUD, when she got pregnant she aborted, why would he think that even if she gets pregnant with a married man’s child, she would even want to keep it and ruin her career? He doesn’t know what he is to her!)
• He isn’t even thinking about Lavanya or himself after waking up. He is a man who is trying to do right by a near stranger. He had just hurt Khushi in a way he didn’t think was ever possible for him. For such a man, that he did this to his wife is enough to paralyse him with guilt. Which is the only emotion he’s feeling at the moment before he fled to Nepal
• No, he didn’t suspect Lavanya of any foul play. Pregnancy wise or otherwise. I have already accepted and established that. He chose to trust a woman who initially wasn’t asking anything of him and simply stating her wish of keeping the child. He offered his support himself. Lavanya’s clingyness bothered him later. Here, he has made himself a target by being too trusting is true. But Lavanya was quick on her feet to agree to a DNA test and assuage his initial doubts.
• you need to understand his POV at pregnancy revelation. for him Lavanya is coming to a married man to tell him of this big news. For him Lavanya has no interest in him. For him, it’s Lavanya who is in a more vulnerable position. He is even concerned before sharing her name with extreme professionals and even Aman at first, simply out of concern for her reputation as a woman
• Arnav’s parents are aware that it’s Arnav’s decision to not have babies. He has never hid it that it’s his decision. It’s society’s finger that points to a woman. And I will say once again, he tried agreeing for a baby. Not under any societal pressure, but because he thought he owed it to Khushi
• And all this while, he is ignoring Khushi because he can’t meet het eyes. I’m not saying it’s not wrong to Khushi who has no idea what the hell is going on. I am the one who wrote Khushi’s pain over this ignorance too. It’s not right in any way to her. But that’s not the intent of my comment. Whether what Arnav did was right or not. The chapter and my comment both were meant to show what went through his mind during the time. What called for duty towards Lavanya, was hurting and unfair towards his wife.
• I will absolutely disagree over the suggestion of calling Khushi and telling her over phone. You don’t do that. Also, his marriage was not normal. I’ll say it again. Divorce would be happening even if Lavanya was not in the picture. He wasn’t lying. He was already done with the marriage
• Again, the story agrees to your point. He did not trust the freelancer and still kept tab. He even told Akash that sh*t could hit the fan as someone had his pictures. This was after he took care of the guy supposedly. Let’s not forget, he’s still trying to trace back to the root of the photos. To him, this was a way to extort for money, not hit his wife who he keeps away from public eye anyway.
• Again, he admitted several times that he does not feel the sympathy towards Lavanya or the baby as much as he should. He is driven by the sense of duty

• I’m the one who wrote Khushi’s pain too. Despite knowing Arnav didn’t cheat the way she thinks. I will see things from her POV when it’s her POV😂😂😂. That’s not the intent of this chapter or my comment. This is just to clarify what went through his head and why he did what he did. It doesn’t take away anything from Khushi’s pain. I agreed to bollybabe didn’t I? He was willing to do so much for so many people. What would he do for Khushi now that he knows how gravely he has hurt her by misjudging why she was unhappy?
  
  

This Arnav is screwed up big time, I am not too sure Khushi will ever be able to forgive him for what he did to her irrespective of her immense love... She needs some time for herself for sure... And he taking decisions and barging into her life doesn't help either...

Originally posted by: Learrntowrite

I think puja and you are doing the same mistake. My username has two rr 🙈🙈🙈

Arpita,

I wanted to respond to your note about comments in last thread. The thread got closed and then could not find it.

I saw you tagged me while explaining Arnav's reaction to La etc to Swati.

1. His lack of "initial "reaction to IUD news was part of my comments too. And we both have gone back and forth on it.

My comment was all about his first gut reaction.

Somehow your recollection what you wrote is different than what is actually in that update

Here is what you wrote

"

What am I looking at?” Arnav said, picking up a file from the dashboard while Aman drove on. The file wasn’t marked or named.

“Lavanya Kashyap’s history and geography” Aman responded in a no-nonsense tone.

“What?” Arnav said as his hands stopped before opening the file.

“She isn’t pregnant. She got an IUD just a couple of months ago and also…” Aman said, his eyes steady on the road but his words shaking.

“Wait!” Arnav exclaimed. “You went around snooping someone’s medical history?”

“Your secretary didn’t go snooping around someone’s medical history” Aman replied in a deadpan voice. “Khushi Bhabhi’s brother did” and Arnav was effectively made to shut up.

“As I was saying. I still wanted to be hundred percent sure. She has had an abortion a few months ago. The report she showed you was the same report with dates changed”

Arnav’s mind first went blank with absolute and utter relief before wanes upon waves of anger came crashing down. "

As you can see he did know it was La.. Aman was talking about not someone.

Even then he said you snooped..no anger. He just shuts up after Aman saying not your employee but Khushi's brother. And also his anger came much later.

2. It is clear to you as a writer how you see your characters, Arnav. La. Khushi,Manali. You know their actions and thoughts in future we don't.

This story was written till last few chapters where infidelity took center stage. It was intended to be..it is only now we know that Arnav hated La too not just Manali (new year's party his thought was added..it was not there before).

So even if we know this ..his conversation with Manali when she threatens him(happens after iud reveal), and he ask La is aware of it or La wants a serious relationship (you called it as he is taking a dig at Manali) will be lost to a reader.

It gets too muddled. You are left thinking he hates Manali but it should also be La.

We are suppose to connect the dots..and understand him now.

it is kind of hard, when nothing is said explicitly by him.

I am no writer and you have written not short but very detailed long updates. Some very amazing chapters that had many of us very emotional. And have been praised and complimented.

Hope this helps you understand my comment as a reader.

Originally posted by: SwatStar_Arshi

This Arnav is screwed up big time, I am not too sure Khushi will ever be able to forgive him for what he did to her irrespective of her immense love... She needs some time for herself for sure... And he taking decisions and barging into her life doesn't help either...

Originally posted by: VeiledWords

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you guys sometimes point out things so expertly that I believe even I wouldn’t do justice to in the story. Thanks a lot !!!🥹🥹

because Arnav’s reasons and Khushi’s hurt are both clear in my head, I sometimes unfairly assume them to be just as clear to everyone too, until someone points it out so amazingly as you did here. I guess a story of this kind will always have difference of opinions. Maybe it’s not a shortcoming that I think it is because I like reading different things :)

he works like he’s working himself to grave, did the first things and other things (thanks learn for pointing out that he didn’t let his divorce reach any news for Khushi’s comfort because even I don’t go back to chapters so much and before I can explain she almost quoted down the whole thing as to what all he did. Whether he was right or not, I will leave it all tou you guys)

puja and Swati so correctly pointed out that as 3rd parties we may still not understand Khushi’s hurt. Everything aside, she didn’t deserve that treatment of Arnav pulling away. I hope a lot of readers are going through the comments because so many different shades of a single story come alive in these discussions you guys hold.

I know his ignorance to khushi hurt her, but I am glad he did not tell her anything then. All because that time he wanted to let her go, his mental situation was completely different from what it is now. He believed khushi will choose him more because of traditional obligations and of course her love . Now he knows to the extent of her love. His situation was more messed, he would have messed it more out of guilt. Now he knows about the deception , he is in better place now.
Also he had no way to dream that ppl will send the pictures to khushi!! there is no logic other than jealousy that justifies this. If someone wants to blackmail him sending pics to the wife makes no sense.

Puja, he is only associated with Lavenya because they work together. There is no reason to ever, ever suspect him as being the father of her unborn child which we know is fiction. By that logic every guy that Lavenya works with could be suspect. All he is doing is producing her movies.

If Aman and Manali are as successful at keeping a lid on their employers’ private lives as always, then Arnav would never even in anyone’s mind be entertained as the baby’s father.

Of course Lavenya can’t keep the news of a pregnancy hidden by virtue of biology. If Manali and Arman do their job as efficiently as before and Lavenya doesn’t name Arnav because being labeled a home wrecker will add to her bad name there is nothing that will be leaked to the press that will ever associate Arnav and Lavenya as ever having anything but a professional relationship. The only dangers are the reporter who Aman has intimidated and paid off and the unnamed person who sent Khushi the pictures.

Originally posted by: bakwas_serial

Arpita,

I wanted to respond to your note about comments in last thread. The thread got closed and then could not find it.

I saw you tagged me while explaining Arnav's reaction to La etc to Swati.

1. His lack of "initial "reaction to IUD news was part of my comments too. And we both have gone back and forth on it.

My comment was all about his first gut reaction.

Somehow your recollection what you wrote is different than what is actually in that update

Here is what you wrote

"

What am I looking at?” Arnav said, picking up a file from the dashboard while Aman drove on. The file wasn’t marked or named.

“Lavanya Kashyap’s history and geography” Aman responded in a no-nonsense tone.

“What?” Arnav said as his hands stopped before opening the file.

“She isn’t pregnant. She got an IUD just a couple of months ago and also…” Aman said, his eyes steady on the road but his words shaking.

“Wait!” Arnav exclaimed. “You went around snooping someone’s medical history?”

“Your secretary didn’t go snooping around someone’s medical history” Aman replied in a deadpan voice. “Khushi Bhabhi’s brother did” and Arnav was effectively made to shut up.

“As I was saying. I still wanted to be hundred percent sure. She has had an abortion a few months ago. The report she showed you was the same report with dates changed”

Arnav’s mind first went blank with absolute and utter relief before wanes upon waves of anger came crashing down. "

As you can see he did know it was La.. Aman was taking about not someone.

Even then he said you snooped..no anger. He just shuts up after Aman saying not your employee but Khushi's brother. And also his anger came much later.

2. It is clear to you as a writer how you see your characters, Arnav. La. Khushi,Manali. You know their actions and thoughts in future we don't.

This story was written till last few chapters where infidelity took center stage. It was intended to be..it is only now we know that Arnav hated La too not just Manali (new year's party his thought was added..it was not there before).

So even if we know this ..his conversation with Manali when she threatens him(happens after iud reveal), and he ask La is aware of it or La wants a serious relationship (you called it as he is taking a dig at Manali) will be lost to a reader.

It gets too muddled. You are left thinking he hates Manali but it should also be La.

We are suppose to connect the dots..and understand now her .

it is kind of hard, when nothing is said explicitly by him.

I am no writer and you have written not short but very detailed long updates. Some very amazing chapters that had many of us very emotional. And have been praised and complimented.

Hope this helps you understand my comment as a reader.

hi bakwas… I think you took my response to Swati in a different way.

I never said he didn’t know Aman was talking about Lavanya. I said his reaction would have been same irrespective of whose file it was. It is a big deal to Arnav. it’s not like Aman said I know Lavanya is pregnant and Arnav went why did you snoop on her? Aman spoke of IUD and the fact that Aman browsed through someone’s very personal information is what prompted this reaction which is normal. It’s more directed towards Aman and his unprompted action. And Aman explained himself. He did say it’s not your secretary who did such a scandalous thing. (What he meant given Arnav’s reaction). It was Khushi bhabhi’s brother.

It’s a momentary reaction and we need to know that Arnav has been seeing Lavanya as a victim and a vulnerable woman all this while. His immediate reaction as anger does not make sense to me. At least in the very first sentence and I genuinely believe it’s taken out of context because we want him to be just as vary of Lavanya as we are. This is literary the first sentence that comes out in this situation.

regarding the added musings. I also never added to Khushi’s thoughts about Arnav’s cheating. She clearly was hurting because of that. She didn’t think about Lavanya during her days in Umanagar or own house because back then story has not revealed that she knew about it. This, the selectivity. Plus, the dialogues have always been left in the same way. Arnav was crying the day Khushi left in front of Akash, he was in near tears the day she left for Umanagar, he did hug her and wasn’t ready to let go when she came to tell him goodbye in his study. His musings could not be added to those parts without revealing all.

Plus, I think I already said that. He does hate Manali more. He sees her as more of an orchestrator. When nothing was found against Lavanya, he sent the dogs after Manali. It doesn’t mean he has a soft corner for la. I hope it clears that up 🙃

Originally posted by: BollyBabe75

Puja, he is only associated with Lavenya because they work together. There is no reason to ever, ever suspect him as being the father of her unborn child which we know is fiction. By that logic every guy that Lavenya works with could be suspect. All he is doing is producing her movies.

If Aman and Manali are as successful at keeping a lid on their employers’ private lives as always, then Arnav would never even in anyone’s mind be entertained as the baby’s father.

Of course Lavenya can’t keep the news of a pregnancy hidden by virtue of biology. If Manali and Arman do their job as efficiently as before and Lavenya doesn’t name Arnav because being labeled a home wrecker will add to her bad name there is nothing that will be leaked to the press that will ever associate Arnav and Lavenya as ever having anything but a professional relationship. The only dangers are the reporter who Aman has intimidated and paid off and the unnamed person who sent Khushi the pictures.

Originally posted by: VeiledWords

hi bakwas… I think you took my response to Swati in a different way.

I never said he didn’t know Aman was talking about Lavanya. I said his reaction would have been same irrespective of whose file it was. It IS a big deal to Arnav. it’s not like Aman said I know Lavanya is pregnant and Arnav went why did you snoop on her? Aman spoke of IUD and the fact that Aman browsed through someone’s very personal information is what prompted this reaction which is normal. It’s more directed towards Aman and his unprompted action. And Aman explained himself. He did say it’s not your secretary who did such a scandalous thing. (What he meant given Arnav’s reaction). It was Khushi bhabhi’s brother.

It’s a momentary reaction and we need to know that Arnav has been seeing Lavanya as a victim and a vulnerable woman all this while. His immediate reaction as anger does not make sense to me. At least in the very first sentence and I genuinely believe it’s taken out of context because we want him to be just as vary of Lavanya as we are. This is literary the first sentence that comes out in this situation.

regarding the added musings. I also never added to Khushi’s thoughts about Arnav’s cheating. She clearly was hurting because of that. She didn’t think about Lavanya during her days in Umanagar or own house because back then story has not revealed that she knew about it. This, the selectivity. Plus, the dialogues have always been left in the same way. Arnav was crying the day Khushi left in front of Akash, he was in near tears the day she left for Umanagar, he did hug her and wasn’t ready to let go when she came to tell him goodbye in his study. His musings could not be added to those parts without revealing all.

Plus, I think I already said that. He does hate Manali more. He sees her as more of an orchestrator. When nothing was found against Lavanya, he sent the dogs after Manali. It doesn’t mean he has a soft corner for la. I hope it clears that up 🙃

I am not the only one who found his response to Aman odd. Or his reaction to Manali threat.

Most what I wrote we have gone back and forth with it. This explanation does not help..which is alright. We can both maintain are stance😊

The second point I was trying to highlight..how we readers are reading it and the challenges. You don't have to agree..it is your story. 😊

Edited;

I had skipped talking about how you think how our responses are colored by what we think about Lavanya. It is not.

I am very sure I have said it before also. It was more what he Arnav was going through after Khushi left..he is a mess