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Posted: 10 years ago
We are already at aane do?i am bracing myself with a chilled glass of water...

thanks for posting Kate.. and indi, that edit of yours from that post couple months ago.. still fresh on mind... fabulous..

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52

episode 321



if arnav singh raizda had not broken down at the sight of khushi in another man's arms i'd have been surprised. if he hadn't lost it and done extreme things i'd have thought the character is losing its essence... and if he hadn't apologised i'd have been really surprised.

this is a thinking man, a brave man and a man who wants to be fair though his human frailties do interfere with that aim often... and especially in the case he has bungled it many times. i do admire this man, but that dropping of khushi from his office, one act of his i still can't figure out nor say, ah doesn't matter, these things happen.


he is a big character, and he acts like one. what i really loved about his apology was his reasoning... you tried so hard to tell me you were not with shyam, but i didn't believe you... you tried at the airport, i didn't listen, despite that... you risked your life and came and saved me.

when his lover was perplexed... why are saying all this now... he said he had something serious to tell her.

she panicked... now what. the last few days have been harrowing. above all dadi has entered and caused mayhem, one can't blame khushi for looking perturbed when he holds her hand and speaks in such a sombre way.

and then he says what he has to.

i am really sorry, khushi. mujhe shayad pata bhi nahin hai maine tumhe kitni baar hurt kiya... for every single time, i'm sorry.

i am really sorry, khushi. i perhaps don't even know how many times i've hurt you... for every single time, i'm sorry.


asr stood up for this apology, giving it a place of importance in their lives, in the story of asr and khushi... like taking a vow he caught her hands and looking into her eyes spoke the words. i do like this man.

yes, he makes mistakes... big ones even... but once he realises his mistake... not only "bahut bura lagta hai" as he tells la earlier, he also acts on it. man of action... of living in this world , engaging with it fully... no matter what the situation.

in fact, khushi doesn't like to look at negative things too hard or too much and says what is the need to go there, but he is adamant... there is a need. a thing must be looked in the eye and dealt with.


she is at first flummoxed by this apology and then picks on his extreme pain at having wronged her and says the most beautiful thing... he doesn't have to say these things, sanaya was wonderful when she said the line as if she meant every word, she cued into the emotion of the words perfectly, made me feel them

aapko yeh sab kahne ki zaroorat nahin hai... kyunki hum jaante hain ki aap humse bahut pyaar karte hain... dammit.


you don't have to say all this to me, because i know how much you love me... dammit.

the whole thing could have gone a bit too mushy and unreal, but i felt acting was solid and real... made it work.

Indi this episode was huge for Arnav Singh Raizada. We have seen by now his entire personality but then we see him at his best again...vulnerable. A man who solidly loves his wife but knows that he has caused her unbearable pain throughout their relationship from day 1. he doesn't want to take another step forward without letting her know he knows this and he apologizes. Khushi being Khushi sweeps it all under the rug because like she says "I know you love me dammit" and I will add "Even when you were a beast to me!" She knows his pain she knows his limitations as a stunted man and she loves him beyond all reason...she truly accepts him as he is...unconditional love. But he needed to let her know that he is aware and how sorry he is. The great Arnav Singh Raizada says sorry to no one...but the great ARnav Singh Raizada shows how really great he is when he can admit they he has wronged her.👏👏👏 What a man! Our couple rocked the episode.


that dadi is an alien to ipk is so apparent everywhere... the only character with no nuance, (even op has texture)... and clearly hear to get some trp related "action drama dhan tan tan" done. i didn't empathise with the actress at all. and the loud obvious music with all her pausing and fretting over khushi's mother's name, her stiff stilted delivery... something was almost cartoonish about it... flat, exaggerated, alas not funny at all.
Hai Nandikisore! Dadi hmmm...hated her...hated that she believed Shyam...loved that all her plans were foiled and I actually loved when they got caught on the roof and the little separation she caused. I know, I know , I am probably the only one who really enjoyed this. I wanted to see Khushi get the wedding she always dreamed of...she deserved that in my opinion and they were cute AND some of the hottest scenes were during the remarriage but of course tanked directly after the wedding...like a bucket of ice cold water was thrown on the pair when they remarried! UGH! Terrible!

the angry man who was looking particularly hot today stood vis a vis his dadi and insisted on being the master of his own life and absolute shield of his wife... she is his legally wedded wife... asr does his duty meticulously and defending and protecting his wife is a clear and present duty. so beware, dadi.
What a man!

so cute, the man calls shashi ji, khushi's "dad" and of course garima is "aunty", awww my hardwar educated angreji baboo sir laad governor.

the banter between nk, asr and anjali was lovely... only that i didn't get the meaning of the whole thing... and the ear was so not right in all the shots from asr's back.
I hate that BD ear!

i fell for nani ji again in this episode...

and please save me from vacant cliched pyaar sabko badal deta hai, love changes everyone, nonsense.


something interesting in that jo such hota hai, woh mooch hota hai. what's true is a moustache... (cyn, in hindi, sach much means really. I thought it meant true?🤗.. nk puns on the much and does this moustache thing... wonder why) huh? major moustache was mimed by nk... again, in the trp chase another little story got lost for we never heard of it again.???????

over all, the whole thing felt a little loose and too many things were flung in, as though someone was in a rush and several points had to be made.

ha ha at eleven a.m. damad ji is visiting with his grandmother.

maine kah diya toh kah diya! okay!...


i've said it so that's it! okay!..


he snaps when khushi asks what's the rush... then quickly tries to assuage the situation, softens his tone... while that was perhaps understandable here, i did not think asr would stand in front of bua ji's house and have a long conversation with himself about not disturbing anyone... once before he's done it in 304... but that was a little more natural... we have entered the phase squarely where asr is being sweetened. bless barun for not yielding completely... he kept on searching seeking finding his character... asr... the best he could.
Thank G-d but he did became a mush. I use to hope to just get a glimpse of ASR again...longed for it...



since i'd have to edit for the next 100 years straight without break if i wanted to catch all the o h expressions on this man's face this episode, i just exercised extreme restraint and settled for the few i did do... one more... i know is in my caps... soon.



he said to her she looked very nice in white... i wondered about the reference and the lighting in this scene, accentuating khushi's "white" look. was her pure virginal appeal being underscored, dadi having cast hideous aspersions of avaidh, etc." i felt the scene was a bit contrived and gave us the mandatory rabba ve... far more rv to me was him yelling keh diya so keh diya... very pati patni, no masking photoshopping sweetening... as is... hot livid owning demanding love.
The only thing I wanted more from that scene was for him to scoop her up and sleep in bed together spooning...he would awake at dawn and sneak out the window...I didn't want for him to leave...

going to the next one...
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Posted: 10 years ago
^^^

thanks cynthia, for reading 321... the man is something else.

yes, yes, of course sach means truth, true, etc., you're right. in this context it's in that sense... really or even truly. much pronounced moochh means moustache. i thought nk's dialogues hinted at some story to come and wasn't just a casual meaningless thing.

okay, i know you love remarriage. and you know, i don't...

would like to go alittle further into why not... bear with me, pillleeejh.

i have tried to say as cogently as i can in the next take, why i don't. playing around with the whole idea of marriage for the sake of trp bothers me. it is happening in too many hindi serials. and here... a) i accept the wedding at the temple to be valid, b) even if we don't accept it, he has said they are legally married... and she has not denied. so i believe they are legally attached.

most disturbing, she is wearing the visible signs of marriage... mangalsutra and sindoor and going through rituals which only unmarried girls do... at too many levels this is wrong.

khushi speaks of the importance of rituals... well, if they are, then she is not doing the right thing at all by observing things that a married girl does not.

in which case she should take off those signs of marriage... can she? i would find it highly what the if she did, again because she does believe in such things...

and really marriage is not something you do to be seen in the right lehenga. i would have respected ipk far more if they had pondered the sanctity of marriage, through khushi herself, the perfect character to do that... perhaps even her refusing a major gesture by him by saying, no, she is a married woman and that is sacred. he would have anyway done something wonderful for her... and i would not be ranting so much. 😆

so memorably back in 80, khushi told him what marriage was... but then she is constantly ready to walk out on him, and now revelling in rituals wearing mangalsutra and sindoor... they really messed with her character.

if you ever get the chance, see a movie called parineeta... means the married woman.

she and he at an hour auspicious exchange garlands by mistake... she never ever agrees to marry anyone else after that, because she believes she is married to him...

he has gone away, nowhere near her is he... but she sweetly says no...

a moving story. written in the last century by sarat chandra chatterjee, a bengali author, who wrote about social issues, major ones... through deeply moving stories. women loved to read him, my mother often cribbed but read anyway. parineeta delves into several social things and also when he wrote it, girls would often get married young, so she is all of 13 i think when the exchange of garlands takes place...

it has been made into movie about five times since 1942... three times in bengali, and twice in hindi, the latest being a saif ali khan/vidya balan version in 2005.

the romantic basis of the story is still that complete acceptance of the girl of the man as her husband, without her talking about it to anyone or demanding anything, just believing it... and refusing to marry anyone else. of course, they are from different castes and that poses its own problems... but all that is secondary.

the idea still finds resonance among audiences. despite our jadedness, our superficial times.

because marriage is coded in us, after centuries of practice i think, as a sacred thing...

now that i have gone on and on... okay, i will try and write a story one of these days on how this might have been done without making khushi wear mangalsutra and get married again... would like to see if it feels lovely and romantic and if khushi's dream of the perfect wedding
can be realised.
Edited by indi52 - 10 years ago
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Just came across this vm, put a smile on my face...😊
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kizh... that is so cute... offo! she has found perfect song and the perfect visuals. fabulous.
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Originally posted by: indi52

^^^

thanks cynthia, for reading 321... the man is something else.

yes, yes, of course sach means truth, true, etc., you're right. in this context it's in that sense... really or even truly. much pronounced moochh means moustache. i thought nk's dialogues hinted at some story to come and wasn't just a casual meaningless thing.

okay, i know you love remarriage. and you know, i don't...

would like to go alittle further into why not... bear with me, pillleeejh.

i have tried to say as cogently as i can in the next take, why i don't. playing around with the whole idea of marriage for the sake of trp bothers me. it is happening in too many hindi serials. and here... a) i accept the wedding at the temple to be valid, b) even if we don't accept it, he has said they are legally married... and she has not denied. so i believe they are legally attached.

most disturbing, she is wearing the visible signs of marriage... mangalsutra and sindoor and going through rituals which only unmarried girls do... at too many levels this is wrong.

khushi speaks of the importance of rituals... well, if they are, then she is not doing the right thing at all by observing things that a married girl does not.

in which case she should take off those signs of marriage... can she? i would find it highly what the if she did, again because she does believe in such things...

and really marriage is not something you do to be seen in the right lehenga. i would have respected ipk far more if they had pondered the sanctity of marriage, through khushi herself, the perfect character to do that... perhaps even her refusing a major gesture by him by saying, no, she is a married woman and that is sacred. he would have anyway done something wonderful for her... and i would not be ranting so much. 😆

so memorably back in 80, khushi told him what marriage was... but then she is constantly ready to walk out on him, and now revelling in rituals wearing mangalsutra and sindoor... they really messed with her character.

if you ever get the chance, see a movie called parineeta... means the married woman.

she and he at an hour auspicious exchange garlands by mistake... she never ever agrees to marry anyone else after that, because she believes she is married to him...

he has gone away, nowhere near her is he... but she sweetly says no...

a moving story. written in the last century by sarat chandra chatterjee, a bengali author, who wrote about social issues, major ones... through deeply moving stories. women loved to read him, my mother often cribbed but read anyway. parineeta delves into several social things and also when he wrote it, girls would often get married young, so she is all of 13 i think when the exchange of garlands takes place...

it has been made into movie about five times since 1942... three times in bengali, and twice in hindi, the latest being a saif ali khan/vidya balan version in 2005.

the romantic basis of the story is still that complete acceptance of the girl of the man as her husband, without her talking about it to anyone or demanding anything, just believing it... and refusing to marry anyone else. of course, they are from different castes and that poses its own problems... but all that is secondary.

the idea still finds resonance among audiences. despite our jadedness, our superficial times.

because marriage is coded in us, after centuries of practice i think, as a sacred thing...

now that i have gone on and on... okay, i will try and write a story one of these days on how this might have been done without making khushi wear mangalsutra and get married again... would like to see if it feels lovely and romantic and if khushi's dream of the perfect wedding
can be realised.

Indi di, I'm with you on this. Even though some parts of the remarriage episodes were nice to watch, probably because its these two. But like you rightly pointed out, so many things jarred. That wearing of the visible signs of marriage by khushi and then saying they are not really married! Hello, then why in hell are you sporting those things? Guess, the story and more so khushi's character had taken a nosedive by then. It was truly a trp garnering exercise. Culturally, that whole sacred thing still resonates I guess, even though, personally I always question the need for all these visible symbols!!!😆 Haven't read Parineeta, so in the story she was only 13? Sort of a very profound statement then, that acceptance of the fact that she got married. That whole gandharva vivaha concept that we had I guess.
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Originally posted by: indi52

episode 322




just so that we know and are abs sure about this, wiki says:

mauve... from the french form of malva mallow, is a pale purple colour, which is named after the mallow flower. the first use of the word mauve as a colour was in 1796-8 according to the oxford english dictionary, but its use seems to have been rare before 1859. another name for the colour is mallow with the first recorded use of mallow as a color name in english in 1611.

and since rhyming with that mallow i am shallow, this episode really was for me only and all about a man and his mauve. there is also his "kaun rokega mujhe."

i'll be back with more and mauve soon.

...

this episode on, something begins which i honestly can't bring myself to agree with, therefore the enjoyment of stunning asr khushi scenes does get impacted. my problem is: remarriage.

without raising my hand in obnoxious fashion but choosing a word with a sense of extreme castigation in it, i say quietly to myself, lips pursed... avaidh.

i have no idea what this word exactly means but it certainly seems to say: wrong, incorrect, not acceptable, shameful.

marriage is, if we are to accept this idea at all, a fairly serious, some will say sacred, thing. it cannot be played with beyond a point, certainly not on daily tv which everyone watches and all the time. and absolutely not for trp. this remarriage was brought on only for money and nothing else.Nahin!!!!

They didn't circumbulate(?sp?) the holy fire nor made vows..he just threw on a chain and put vermillion in her maang. No vows, no priest, no witness but Bagwan...

The couple takes seven steps together to reiterate their aspirations of their married life.

With the first step, we will provide for and support each other.
With the second step, we will develop mental, physical & spiritual strength.
With the third step, we will share the worldly possessions.
With the fourth step, we will acquire knowledge, happiness and peace.
With the fifth step, we will raise strong and virtuous children.
With the sixth step, we will enjoy the fruits of all seasons.
With the seventh step, we will always remain friends and cherish each other.

http://www.hinduwedding.info/marriage-ceremony.html


for the sake of drama and story telling, and because it was delivered with a pristine powerful passion, i could accept, almost revel in actually, the fabulous yet terrifying wedding at the temple. subsequently he mentioned she was his legally wedded wife... which she did not refute. i presume therefore this marriage has legal sanction.Possibly..probably.. they might have shown us a scene with the two of them signing the certificate and a couple of witnesses... they might have even shown us how he devised the six month clause into it... but this was a marriage... and even she accepted the signs of it such as mangalsutra and sindoor, which she did not take lightly at all, wearing them when they were hating each other, when they were loving each other... so.. to me, asr agreeing to this new shadi was just a result of bad writing, ugly greed and complete disregard for the story and for love.Nahin!!!! It gave Khushi the respect she deserved...it gave him remorse...it gave him the chance to say he was sorry...

when he returned from kidnap, i did think he'd "marry" her again, but in their way, perhaps by the poolside, under the stars, give her kangans, letter from maa, maybe even in front of the families... but this?

sorry. this makes their marriage before god, which she believes in, with its mangalsutra and sindoor, which again he brings in because she believes in them, seem to be just a sham. that is just not right. Nahin!!!! Before god yes the all knowing ever present god but no witness his priest to initiate.

marriage is no joke... they were married. Nahin!!!! but yes in their heart possibly...maybe even legally...not sure

and so, i feel a disconnect. the only positive outcome of this whole fiasco to me is episode 248, a new level of commitment...

and since when is sex between lovers such a bad thing? and i totally get his indignation on the night of the suhag raat which he'd set up with so much happiness and anticipation. isn't a lover wanting to make the first time they have sex with each other special a nice thing... wouldn't we like that? Nahin!!!! just kidding!!! YES!

and why is indian tv presenting such a ridiculous, damaging notion of sex in the first place. we neither marry to have sex nor not have it... it is an essential part of human survival. and is highly enjoyable.. when we attempt to create permanence between two people who are not genetically connected, the sheer intimacy it brings in has many uses, including actually helping people tether, i see it often as a means of communicating. but at the same time human beings can have sex without marriage and for reasons they believe are valid... it is a matter of choice. to tie sex exclusively to marriage is a bit silly and doesn't understand the basic premise of either thing. I must say that this progressive serial did go a little backwards in that department but that was because Khushiji was a behenji...I think that is the word. "a good girl" portrayed.

more and more serials present this whole thing about two people getting married then a whole chaos about soemthing or the oyther and then they just don't do "it". huh? seems to say to me, a whole mindset of sex being:"bad" and worse still "not essential" is being created. warped.

desist, dammit.too progressive of a thought...my sons bring home their girlfriends to spend the night...yikes!!! but they are all adults and unfortunately I am not respected...i guess...the world here is different...but I was progressive John and I lived together before marriage..he was 28 I was 22 or 23 but had already been married. So who am I to say anything?

this is avaidh.

thankfully, someone else couldn't care less about all the rasam and custom and eye rolling hysterical joy over meaningless things.

he concentrates on dressing.

ah.

i am watching transfixed. (not that you don't know that already.)


shrug on brown waistcoat and turn elegantly while talking to lover girl on phonewa... blue is your tooth, and mauve is your shirt, slightly distracted is your air... that mid shot magnification... magnificento.AGREED!!!! although I would have called his shirt lavender!

she is in a nice red tent, with a casual knot... but in the casual department, ah that tone of voice and that man going about daily routine air, me casualty.

"tum ready ho...?"
you ready?

"haan, arnav ji, bas hum taiyaar ho rahe hain... kya hua?"
yes, i am getting ready, what's the matter?

"kuch nahin... i'll see you soon."
nothing, i'll see you soon. (sexxxy) deadwa!!!

"kya? aap hume dekh lenge?"
what, you'll see me?

pause. eyebrows dance...

hot hot "uh... matlab...?", uh meaning? on a sort of laugh. i have died. really all these rituals, who thought of these... i am going to buy an suv... he needs one. he must abduct her now and stop this nonsense.
LOL🤣

she lets him know in her pleased, over sweet, know everything tone...once it used to be fun, but now i just want to runaway... anyway he is told he can't see the bride. LOL🤣

and the devastating comeback...

"okay... kaun rokega mujhe?"
okay, who's going to stop me?
🤢 ...sigh..😳

gosh he's doing his cuffs... okay i have to say, man has that thing we used to call by a very old fashioned name: sa... sex appeal, hello hi bye bye.
LOL👏


girl is shocked... i liked her look here and found the shagun do up ugh.

in that kaun rokega mujhe sat an entire character and its powerful charm.

he will not be stopped when he means to get something. he will go out there. do what needs to be done. reap the benefits or face the consequences, but he will live life on his terms and without compromise. certainly no one will be allowed to stop him. i have always liked this boldness, this shrugging on life and wearing it perfectly, all buttons done, cuffs rolled... not depending on others... not even god... and should their be severe wardrobe malfunction, ready to show himmat and tackle that too. 👏


i believe the free will in us exists for a reason. and to assert it, to express it is not to challenge the furies and god... in fact, this is part of our make up, surely we are asked to use it... and not keep looking for safety in numbers and social and religious sanctions.
Indi I love that we disagree here...

and the man is playful on top of that, flirting away... despite all the drama... focussed on the main thing. khushi. his lover, his girl, he wants her... anything for her, even this ridiculous marriage. i am glad he pretty much says that to her in his mother's garden, though again there's a bit of a disconnect for he's been saying all along she's my wife.

i just read it as him being fed up with the whole sugary shadi business and declaring, look, i did it for you, but get this! i don't believe in all this shebang. this perhaps is that special thing he wants to do with her after coming back... bring her to meet his mother and totally join with her in a relationship of commitment... not of trp and loud fairly empty customs.

so dadi tries to stop him. not a very bright woman, is she? he of course appears when he knows she won't be able to do a thing. (however that too cutesie right dadi banter, not my thing, so shan't say anything.)I loved that he figured a way to break rules! the ritual was over sooo...

holds khushi's hand and walks away with her in front of everyone... deadly. i remembered him itching to see her on a visit earlier, barging into the kitchen, flinging challenges at her... he can put up with anything, but not being with her, not seeing her... he just can't do it.

needs her. loves her. will do anything for her,EVEN REMARRY!!! FOR HER!!!!even if he does not believe in it but she needs it. i liked his holding of her hand... this time not to apologise... this time to claim... all the many parts of a "vaidh" relationship. and he did say again, kaun rokega mujhe?



little thoughts


~why is garima falling apart like this? and how totally silly is this plan of not appearing before dadi... can this be sustained? and how come neither bua ji nor khushi think this is way too strange to be just given forehead furrowed looks and then go on as usual.Have to agree with you on this one and what "mother" in her right mind would not be at her daughter's marriage rituals...really????thinking she is saving her from her past???what was that crap!!! Now that was for the suspense of the marriage TRP's will it happen? will they find out truth? and we all know how that went down...


~ why does khushi stop him from saying kkgsr? why was sanaya given such a strange hairstyle? why is she looking dopey and blink blink cute all the time? where's khushi? she is there...i see her...

~ bua ji said in the beginning, she knows they are ladkewale... but this is not fair. i am glad she did. episode one, her brother had thoughtfully asked, should he get his girl married to a boy whose family was behaving so badly... his wife had said how can you say that, we are ladkiwale. garima is timid by nature, accepting social norms even if they are not right. that's who she is i guess, though she is also sensitive and wise about many things and gets damad ji somewhere. (would have been niice to see the two of them working out this issue of her being "woh aurat". instead of aarva, sheetal, mrs india. and yes, birthday.)

ladkewale... ladkiwale. boy's side... girl's side.

ah the dynamics of a society based on giving precedence to men... the y chromosome game, the coralling of women... thank g at least two people belonging to the not too privileged, highly adherent to social traditions middle class, actually raised the topic, wondered rationally about something.

i wonder what asr will say if there's any ladkiwalle ladkewale talk.

~ karan g is a good actor. of course nk says things that no one else can... so none of the so called riti riwaj about not seeing the bride were followed during akash's wedding. ah the shh shh from poojali... teehee. the raizadas are definitely progressive... respect tradition but don't get bogged down by it and stop exercising your powers of thinking. 👏

~ nani ji was lovely as always... her dear pal sumi really needs to learn some manners and lighten up.👏👏👏

~ scary dadi was also meant to raise trp... that avaidh bet also didn't work.

~ was good to see payal whack nk and smile widely almost when jeth ji walked off shamelessly dragging his ladki after him. deepali pansare was looking upbeat, maybe they'd told her her role was about to become soimething. how much acan a girl run after sasuma and upset pati wearing sythetic shiny saree, hair open. ROFLMAO!!!!😆🤣

cut to lopsided smile after raised eyebrows... so you are not mine now...

hum toh aapo hi ke hain.

hum bhi... hum bhi.

of course, i am yours...

me too... me too.



shall we be shallow? and wallow in the mallow. YES WE SHALL!!!


This was fun!
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thanks cynthia, for reading 321... the man is something else.

yes, yes, of course sach means truth, true, etc., you're right. in this context it's in that sense... really or even truly. much pronounced moochh means moustache. i thought nk's dialogues hinted at some story to come and wasn't just a casual meaningless thing.

okay, i know you love remarriage. and you know, i don't...

would like to go alittle further into why not... bear with me, pillleeejh.

i have tried to say as cogently as i can in the next take, why i don't. playing around with the whole idea of marriage for the sake of trp bothers me. it is happening in too many hindi serials. and here... a) i accept the wedding at the temple to be valid, b) even if we don't accept it, he has said they are legally married... and she has not denied. so i believe they are legally attached.

most disturbing, she is wearing the visible signs of marriage... mangalsutra and sindoor and going through rituals which only unmarried girls do... at too many levels this is wrong.

khushi speaks of the importance of rituals... well, if they are, then she is not doing the right thing at all by observing things that a married girl does not.

in which case she should take off those signs of marriage... can she? i would find it highly what the if she did, again because she does believe in such things...

and really marriage is not something you do to be seen in the right lehenga. i would have respected ipk far more if they had pondered the sanctity of marriage, through khushi herself, the perfect character to do that... perhaps even her refusing a major gesture by him by saying, no, she is a married woman and that is sacred. he would have anyway done something wonderful for her... and i would not be ranting so much. 😆

so memorably back in 80, khushi told him what marriage was... but then she is constantly ready to walk out on him, and now revelling in rituals wearing mangalsutra and sindoor... they really messed with her character.

if you ever get the chance, see a movie called parineeta... means the married woman.

she and he at an hour auspicious exchange garlands by mistake... she never ever agrees to marry anyone else after that, because she believes she is married to him...

he has gone away, nowhere near her is he... but she sweetly says no...

a moving story. written in the last century by sarat chandra chatterjee, a bengali author, who wrote about social issues, major ones... through deeply moving stories. women loved to read him, my mother often cribbed but read anyway. parineeta delves into several social things and also when he wrote it, girls would often get married young, so she is all of 13 i think when the exchange of garlands takes place...

it has been made into movie about five times since 1942... three times in bengali, and twice in hindi, the latest being a saif ali khan/vidya balan version in 2005.

the romantic basis of the story is still that complete acceptance of the girl of the man as her husband, without her talking about it to anyone or demanding anything, just believing it... and refusing to marry anyone else. of course, they are from different castes and that poses its own problems... but all that is secondary.

the idea still finds resonance among audiences. despite our jadedness, our superficial times.

because marriage is coded in us, after centuries of practice i think, as a sacred thing...

now that i have gone on and on... okay, i will try and write a story one of these days on how this might have been done without making khushi wear mangalsutra and get married again... would like to see if it feels lovely and romantic and if khushi's dream of the perfect wedding
can be realised.

Okay, okay I hear you but this is my train of thought. He dragged her to the Mandir with a minimal consent...a forced consent..she did not have a choice did she? No one is there but them... yes a holy fire but no priest to initiate a service...just two people stolen away like kids...grabbing a mangalsutra and a sprinkle of vermillion...no vows, no circambulations...now I know this is just ritual but it is a wedding ritual...just saying you are my legally wedded wife may make it legal but in my eyes not really not when we are talking about force here. Yes ,there was love once but then he opened the door to hate and closed the love door and so no basis for a marriage but hate and revenge. No reverence for the marriage itself and then placing a contract of six months? what kind of marriage is that? Marriage is a lifetime and seven more ...if lucky. So do you get my drift? Understand how he disrespected her? He owed it to Khushi to remarry her in the right way to show him he respected her and loved her. My humble opinion.
I must watch Parineeti definitely my kind of love story...
And why did she wear the signs of the marriage because she thought she was married...this is where the creatives went wrong...she didn't realize she was not really married until she heard the story of Krishna and Radha by Naniji...when she realized she didnt do those rituals...now you would think she would have know but I will say she was suppose to be young and naive...I will give them that...she also made love to him before remarriage because she met her MIL in the garden and he said to her as of right now he considers her his ma's bahu...right at that moment? she believed they were married in her heart I will give you that but she wanted the real thing with all the trimmings...a young girl's dream.
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Originally posted by: kizh72

Just came across this vm, put a smile on my face...😊

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgJBSLHG4X0[/YOUTUBE]
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such a cute video!!!!😆

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