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Posted: 10 years ago
Horizon,

Are you all students of literature ? The views are captured so well. I feel a lot of inferiority complex around here. 😭

Anyway - one of the scenes I liked a lot during the hate wedding was when after an intense argument ASR says "I hate you" and then she repeats it. The expression on his face at that moment was worth it. As if he did not mean it. Was expecting her not to repeat it. But when she did he felt so helpless. Any of you remember it ?

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: JJKKL

Horizon,

Are you all students of literature ? The views are captured so well. I feel a lot of inferiority complex around here. 😭

Anyway - one of the scenes I liked a lot during the hate wedding was when after an intense argument ASR says "I hate you" and then she repeats it. The expression on his face at that moment was worth it. As if he did not mean it. Was expecting her not to repeat it. But when she did he felt so helpless. Any of you remember it ?


Okay, I had thought, as always, I'd take one post at a time in order, as I read but this one made me break that rule.

Remember it? JJ my dear, this is one of my absolute favorites. As much as I am not an angst's person and prefer some light entertainment that would bring a silly smile on my face, I have to say, there were moments of emotional torture that had me blown and riveted to this show.

What I loved about IPKKND was the raw intensity and spurts of scathing angst interspersed in with the general light heartedness and humor of a rom com.

On a human level, the entire concept of hate marriage and its tragedy is a very disturbing idea, more disturbing in real life than what the show made it out to be, but as a viewer I am actually very fond of the phase till Holi, for this track had made me witness some stellar performances by the cast and few of my favorite scenes.
I don't know which scene is actually my favorite (there cannot be just one) but then there is the breakdown of ASR, in that moment I was mad at him to even consider that my Khushi was capable of bringing any harm to anyone let alone his sister, yet his primal scream pierced through my heart, the torment of his being coming across from each facial tissue of his, the slipping of the mighty against the bonnet of his SUV, his helpless tears and that beastly rage in the next moment (seriously WHAT was Mr. Sobti thinking he was doing) had me crying for a man who had crossed the tolerance limits of pervertedness for me in the initial episodes of the show.

Now to the scene you mentioned.

He was born of hate, so he did and some more. She had only love, for a beast, for a man, for all.
Beneath his scorned, vitriolic yells, he had silently prayed to bask in her love, for a beast, for a man, for all.
He erased her hopes, but couldn't mitigate his own.
She did that for him.
Crushed his hopes as she said, he wasn't worthy of love. None, for a beast, for a man, for all.




Edited by cineraria - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
^^^
This scene just reminded me of Paint it Red, IPKKND Vignettes collection by Rockbarbie. If anyone of you guys have missed it, then people, take my words, read it now.

Rockbarbie is beyond excellence, Paint it Red is a collection of a few angst ridden scenes from the drama, and how the author has interpreted those is mind numbing, delicious.

I don't know why it never got the number of readers it should have, it's a must read for all IPK fans.

This particular scene was in Cardinal Sin.


There are 11 of them.


By the same author under the username of Thyme, is Maidens and Madmen.

It's like 5 shots and each shot is of only 54 words. Taking 5 scenes (from initial episodes) from the show. Poetry in prose.

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Posted: 10 years ago
I watched IPK online almost a year after it ended. And used to read Ipoona's takes on the episodes. She is too too good.Just check this out about the aforesaid episode.

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/iss-pyaar-ko-kya-naam-doon/3977966/reliving-ipk-196

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Posted: 10 years ago
hi jj,

good to see you, i am indi.

i see thread has come alive with that harvard question of yours. wonderful. as for me, i don't think where you got your business degree from has any real impact on how who or what you are as a person.

but yes, had that moment of a man wrecking within had been acted with any less beauty, i too might have found the whole thing utterly melodramatic and difficult to gel with the educated driven completely in control man asr had been presented as.

and yet in life enough harvard grads have done enough irrational things, not that they havn't.

but this is a show, and for me, the response comes without even asking me at times, straight from my gut. if you convince me there... i go with it.

for in life actually the strangest things really do happen. it does not play out a rational linear timeline despite the human being's excessive accent on the rational aspect of existence for the past five hundered years or maybe more.

if you ask me, it is because we are not rational that stories happen in the first place.

so harvard grad or not was never the point for me. in fact at a logical level and with rudimentary maths i think we can pretty much even validly question that very claim itself.

but asr was more than his qualifications and even his two-suit tycoon wardrobe.

he was a huge living breathing character. because someone perhaps felt him beyond his brusqueness, his lopsided smirk, his shut up get out arrogance, and the many things that were the physical signs of asr.

an actor went right into his character and found things no one had possibly thought of.

just my guess.

what i know is however, at that moment when asr stood at a terrace door and saw his faraq padta hai girl in shyam's arms, the first jolt hit him. then she screamed to shyam that he should divorce di in which case.

something came apart in the man watching.

after that only extreme mayhem was possible... that's what i felt.

i remember jumping up and sitting on my bed almost yelling archaic words like thespian. because as asr stood at the door and without saying a word went into shock and then broke... only expressions and that too the slightest merest changes recording a tsunami, i realised barun sobti was really this compelling because he was a fine actor.

i waited for his next move.

and then it came, despite his emotional upheaval, a brave, struggling hard to be rational man's reaction... he spoke to his brother in law... who easily fooled him given asr's emotional state, he believed the evidence of his eyes and ears and they clouded his judgement because his heart was in turmoil... he tried to speak to khushi but that was not to be, he went to tell his sister and guess what she is pregnant...

completely torn between conflicting emotions and unbearable pain he let mayhem win. he saw it as the only thing he could do... protecting his sister became the task he gave himself to find focus in that gashed up night. gussa became his mate in somehow facing the madness because otherwise he'd be swept away.

and he took a wild, obviously irrational, and yes, wrong step. he coerced the woman he loved in the most horrible way.

i would not have been surprised if he had even forced her to live with him.

it was a night like that.

and really the acting is what did it for me.

300 onwards story goes totally haywire, often making no sense. yet, if i watch and still write it's because of those unbelievable moments two actors created. in that is all the story all the logic all the love.

was good you made me think. thanks and see you again. my mind says othello... just a hankerchief and where his passionate love and his feelings of insecurity took him, he the valorous, extremely intelligent strategic thinker and warrior. there too, critics raise questions of logic, and reams are written to defend and take apart the plot. but it's really about a feeling. pyaar in essence is extra logical and makes us do extra logical things. even making us believe in hamesha. one of those things they perhaps don't teach you at harvard.



Edited by indi52 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
Hi every one.I know I have become a total stranger but when when your MIL stays with you for three months then...Khuch nahin ho sakta😆

Any way..good to be back...

Just thrilled seeing my handsome on the screen.can't be over .My hubby makes fun at my craziness.He calls me a teenager.


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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: JJKKL

I watched IPK online almost a year after it ended. And used to read Ipoona's takes on the episodes. She is too too good.Just check this out about the aforesaid episode.

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/iss-pyaar-ko-kya-naam-doon/3977966/reliving-ipk-196


Awww, you are reminding me good reliving ipk days, 😭..I used to come everyday reading Arshi di and Ipoona di.

When Arshi di pulled off herself, the thread didn't continue that long.Hardly people come to read.Good memories.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: MehreenB

Hi every one.I know I have become a total stranger but when when your MIL stays with you for three months then...Khuch nahin ho sakta😆


Any way..good to be back...

Just thrilled seeing my handsome on the screen.can't be over .My hubby makes fun at my craziness.He calls me a teenager.



mehreen, so good to see you. yes. he was on a screen yayyy. ha ha of course we are teenagers. i get your frustration, i have been traveling and concentration messed, often no internet or the comp acting up. right now in that state. ufff.


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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52

hi jj,

good to see you, i am indi.

i see thread has come alive with that harvard question of yours. wonderful. as for me, i don't think where you got your business degree from has any real impact on how who or what you are as a person.

but yes, had that moment of a man wrecking within had been acted with any less beauty, i too might have found the whole thing utterly melodramatic and difficult to gel with the educated driven completely in control man asr had been presented as.

and yet in life enough harvard grads have done enough irrational things, not that they havn't.

but this is a show, and for me, the response comes without even asking me at times, straight from my gut. if you convince me there... i go with it.

for in life actually the strangest things really do happen. it does not play out a rational linear timeline despite the human being's excessive accent on the rational aspect of existence for the past five hundered years or maybe more.

if you ask me, it is because we are not rational that stories happen in the first place.

so harvard grad or not was never the point for me. in fact at a logical level and with rudimentary maths i think we can pretty much even validly question that very claim itself.

but asr was more than his qualifications and even his two-suit tycoon wardrobe.

he was a huge living breathing character. because someone perhaps felt him beyond his brusqueness, his lopsided smirk, his shut up get out arrogance, and the many things that were the physical signs of asr.

an actor went right into his character and found things no one had possibly thought of.

just my guess.

what i know is however, at that moment when asr stood at a terrace door and saw his faraq padta hai girl in shyam's arms, the first jolt hit him. then she screamed to shyam that he should divorce di in which case.

something came apart in the man watching.

after that only extreme mayhem was possible... that's what i felt.

i remember jumping up and sitting on my bed almost yelling archaic words like thespian. because as asr stood at the door and without saying a word went into shock and then broke... only expressions and that too the slightest merest changes recording a tsunami, i realised barun sobti was really this compelling because he was a fine actor.

i waited for his next move.

and then it came, despite his emotional upheaval, a brave, struggling hard to be rational man's reaction... he spoke to his brother in law... who easily fooled him given asr's emotional state, he believed the evidence of his eyes and ears and they clouded his judgement because his heart was in turmoil... he tried to speak to khushi but that was not to be, he went to tell his sister and guess what she is pregnant...

completely torn between conflicting emotions and unbearable pain he let mayhem win. he saw it as the only thing he could do... protecting his sister became the task he gave himself to find focus in that gashed up night. gussa became his mate in somehow facing the madness because otherwise he'd be swept away.

and he took a wild, obviously irrational, and yes, wrong step. he coerced the woman he loved in the most horrible way.

i would not have been surprised if he had even forced her to live with him.

it was a night like that.

and really the acting is what did it for me.

300 onwards story goes totally haywire, often making no sense. yet, if i watch and still write it's because of those unbelievable moments two actors created. in that is all the story all the logic all the love.

was good you made me think. thanks and see you again. my mind says othello... just a hankerchief and where his passionate love and his feelings of insecurity took him, he the valorous, extremely intelligent strategic thinker and warrior. there too, critics raise questions of logic, and reams are written to defend and take apart the plot. but it's really about a feeling. pyaar in essence is extra logical and makes us do extra logical things. even making us believe in hamesha. one of those things they perhaps don't teach you at harvard.





Hi Indi,

Thanks dear for such a nice writeup. Something about Harvard ticked off everybody here. Makes me wonder how many of you are from there 😃

You are indeed right. ASR was about to confess almost. And then he sees the infamous terrace scene. And then only mayhem can happen.

Fine let me agree after listening to all your arguments that as retaliation he married her. Will he then continue to distrust her ? Even after she answered her questions (after the attempted suicide) and still not believe her and leave for Europe ? And finally confess over the phone ?

Looked to me that ASR the character was so affected by his past that he was looking for reasons to not trust her.

Don't get me wrong. IPK was the first Hindi serial for me. And I loved it. At least quite a few episodes of it. Not the kidnapping track. Not the post 2nd wedding track. But the rest. And I loved it. And these questions are to pick our brains and debate.😆

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Posted: 10 years ago
but this is a show, and for me, the response comes without even asking me at times, straight from my gut. if you convince me there... i go with it.

Indi di


the above lines of yours is saying my heartily words.Yes ASR made you feel YOU and you just go with it.I am a fan of Khushi and ASR , Arnav is a different story.Because for me Arnav was in ASR always , inseparable. clinged to his heart.So pure and real.

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