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hey JJKKL, welcome to our thread. please do visit us frequently. we are not blind about our show. we do lot of criticism too, but our love for IPK is myriad.Arween gave you a very nice explanation. I think our insightful analyst Horizon, Indy and ArshiHameasha also can give you more explanation about ASR's actions.One thing I can say how astute is the person, nobody is beyond feelings, emotions or anger. What ASR did was did in the spur of the moment.To understand ASR, You have to watch IPK from the very first episode more intricately.I never liked ASR threw Khushi out from his room to let her sleep outside. But did you see how much he embroiled to hurt her. For him she was a characterless home wrecker, like the other woman who destroyed his family and compelled his parents to die.May be it was not needed but needed also for the redemption track.
Originally posted by: cineraria
Hey JJ welcome to the gang dude, such a delight to see you here. I remember you had raised this point in the CC too, I had been in a particularly playful mood then and had joked about it being the Dil and Dimaag divide. 😉But I slightly differ in my take on this.First and foremost, what is education for you? Is getting good grades in academics a criteria to decide how level headed, thoughtful, composed and pragmatic a person is when it comes to dealing with personal crisis?Honestly, I don't find educated from Harvard and yet taking rash decisions in personal life ironic or illogical. You may do extremely well in academics, earn the highest degree from the most prestigious university, be a roaring success in your career but is that a testimony to "thou shalt not be gullible to folly"?That you cannot make a wrong judgement based on your senses? That you cannot be impulsive, and never lose your rationale in face of adversity?Lets take a general consideration of how we reach a decision.Instant decisions even in business are often made based on immediate facts, past experiences, weighing the pros and cons.In Arnav's predicament, it wasn't just witnessing his love in the arms of his sister's husband and hearing a portion of the conversation at the inopportune time, the unfortunate selection of words, "If you don't love her, then leave her."But simultaneously, it's a cruel reminder of the stigma he's been carrying for half his life. That what had transpired between his parents, how it had killed the person he once was, and to what extent he had hardened himself, how much of a skeptic, untrusting, disbelieving a man he had become just to avoid being shattered again.And just when he had let himself to feel a little vulnerable again, willed himself to trust someone with his heart, broken the shackles he had bound his heart in for past fourteen years, he's met with such a sight!How can one expect a man to remain sane in such a situation. His trust with happiness was never a plenty, it was a very fragile thread, broken with a single jolt.And then he's ASR. To him, his only means to sustain is to believe that he's some sort of invincible force. From his point of view, when his sister is in a delicate situation, when he cannot reveal to her the truth, and his judgement is clouded by the betrayal of past, what are the stakes in front of him?Oh hell, he gets the girl he wants. If he burns in his hell, he'll make her burn with him. If she suffers, he suffers, they are together in this. And do you not think, ASR was one hell of a masochist. And that's a psychology, ain't got much to do with how brainy you are. It wasn't a stupid move at all, he took the best advantage of the situation, poor Khushi, she was made a scapegoat in this battle between Arnav and Shyam and Arnav's personal demons. Reference point, episode 192, last few minutes. Hell, I love that conversation between ASR and Daiyya ho.😆 Sorry for the awfully long bhashan yara 😆 , hope I didn't bore you. Just my take. 😃
Hi all,
This is JJ. I know a few of you already (Ria,BHAVI, Horizon). For the others I loved Barun as ASR and Sanaya as Khushi. But it is another fact that I love RR more. But for this discussion I hope it does not matter
Went through a few of the posts here. Since you all seem to be okay with criticism about IPK I am being bold enough to ask this question.
Could you all accept the fact that a Harvard returned guy saw a "scene" in the terrace and believed it enough to go through a hate wedding and to also not inform her why she is punished ? And made her sleep in the cold the first night ? And maybe many nights (do not remember) No rotten tomatoes please. Just a question
My sweet young friend, take a bow! Very well said. As somebody who is a bhudiya compared to you, I hope you remain so clear headed and clear sighted all your life! It was an absolute pleasure to read that. Yes, Harvard and Oxbridge won't remove human frailties!Originally posted by: cineraria
Hey JJ welcome to the gang dude, such a delight to see you here. I remember you had raised this point in the CC too, I had been in a particularly playful mood then and had joked about it being the Dil and Dimaag divide. 😉
But I slightly differ in my take on this.
First and foremost, what is education for you? Is getting good grades in academics a criteria to decide how level headed, thoughtful, composed and pragmatic a person is when it comes to dealing with personal crisis?
Honestly, I don't find educated from Harvard and yet taking rash decisions in personal life ironic or illogical. You may do extremely well in academics, earn the highest degree from the most prestigious university, be a roaring success in your career but is that a testimony to "thou shalt not be gullible to folly"?That you cannot make a wrong judgement based on your senses? That you cannot be impulsive, and never lose your rationale in face of adversity?
Lets take a general consideration of how we reach a decision.
Instant decisions even in business are often made based on immediate facts, past experiences, weighing the pros and cons.
In Arnav's predicament, it wasn't just witnessing his love in the arms of his sister's husband and hearing a portion of the conversation at the inopportune time, the unfortunate selection of words, "If you don't love her, then leave her."But simultaneously, it's a cruel reminder of the stigma he's been carrying for half his life. That what had transpired between his parents, how it had killed the person he once was, and to what extent he had hardened himself, how much of a skeptic, untrusting, disbelieving a man he had become just to avoid being shattered again.And just when he had let himself to feel a little vulnerable again, willed himself to trust someone with his heart, broken the shackles he had bound his heart in for past fourteen years, he's met with such a sight!
How can one expect a man to remain sane in such a situation. His trust with happiness was never a plenty, it was a very fragile thread, broken with a single jolt.
And then he's ASR. To him, his only means to sustain is to believe that he's some sort of invincible force. From his point of view, when his sister is in a delicate situation, when he cannot reveal to her the truth, and his judgement is clouded by the betrayal of past, what are the stakes in front of him?
Oh hell, he gets the girl he wants. If he burns in his hell, he'll make her burn with him. If she suffers, he suffers, they are together in this. And do you not think, ASR was one hell of a masochist. And that's a psychology, ain't got much to do with how brainy you are. It wasn't a stupid move at all, he took the best advantage of the situation, poor Khushi, she was made a scapegoat in this battle between Arnav and Shyam and Arnav's personal demons. Reference point, episode 192, last few minutes. Hell, I love that conversation between ASR and Daiyya ho.
😆 Sorry for the awfully long bhashan yara 😆 , hope I didn't bore you. Just my take. 😃
Yes Sohara, our love for IPK is myriad... pitfalls galore later on, but his/ their journey for a whole 9 months is sheer perfection and artistry from where I see.
Yes, asr was surely inhuman there, but that's how its supposed to be.. he going back to being inhuman. the one who would welcome her to hell, make life literally hell, leave her to fall from his cabin and order to manage parking on rainy nights. He was a Harvard graduate that time also. Life altering experiences bring out the most unforeseen reactions from people and I am only talking about shockingly finding two of his most trusted, and one he helpless loved in each other's arms and conspiring about destructing his sister's life line like wedding.
but, unlike that time, here with all sea of love for her, he is dying inside watching her plight by the pool but his life experiences point otherwise. The fact that his BIL attested to her being an accomplice meant a lot to him.
His BIL shamelessly confessed to not loving Rani shahiba. Khushi would NOT share with him a thing that has to do with Anjali and her marriage, a why of which would be beyond his imagination. but she would steal glances with Shyam in that room full of people where anjali's pregnancy is announced, indicating she had some thing or the other surely to do with Shyam.
Yes he didn't look at all at the proofs lying right before him if his eyes were open enough, yet the same time he didn't even need any proofs to confess his love for her ...It was all about heart when the matter has to do with Khushi.. .nothing to do with any tangible proofs ever really ...
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