Reliving IPK 117 - Page 3

Originally posted by: nishu_shorna

once again you girls have done this...AWESOME...am left speechless...loved it so much...

Originally posted by: ArshiHamesha

Ipoona you have described Arnav 's state really good , indeed all those moments engaged him atone focal point but in red , I don't think they both knew what they were doing.Later on their own Roca she doesn't remember and he just noticed that he did similar kind of thing as during Mehndi and they both recall all the moments when they did these things already and realized that they actually did those rituals , it's more like for Khushi so her trust on her man becomes blinded and that's exactly the purpose as she couldn't backed down at farmhouse nght other wise the girl like her already did back down for pheras but one day before marriage...even Arnav asked her next day as he knows ..tum shaadi se phele...and on the phone...tum theek ho ...kal raat jo hum..as he was in this state may be she is gone by the emotional flow and may be now she is regretting but her answer brings smile of his face...and that TRUST of that night on him helps him come back to her on the wedding day...

Originally posted by: Horizon

Arshi, just read your 116 again. was waiting for this. loved how you brought forward he wanting her to throw it .. his khushi..but she keeping it safe. oh can we forget that absolutely mindboggling coldness of that "phenk do"!!

Khushi truly seemed confused..poor soul... "aap kya chahthe hai humse" poor soul.. one min in heaven next in the abyss.. blow hot blow cold...yes, its always a treat to watch how he doesn't hesitate a bit to exercise his haq on her any where any time..

"tumhe... chot lagi hai".. how can any one do first aid just with the voice!!! did n't she almost looked ready to say "aadat hai hume aap se chot khane ki".. that she said much later!

Loved all those pics.. may be this epi needs a drool corner!!

Thanks Arshi,

BTW, can you guys think of the possibility to open one thread a week, so that all of them would be at the same place?

Originally posted by: ArshiHamesha

ArshiH ... Thanks so much for your lovely comments ... I think I may be in the minority as I saw the scene a bit differently ... I do not think that they think it is an engagement ... But more a sign ... And she knows what that sign meant ... Her staring at both her hands ... One with the ring and one with the bandage ... Not that she is engaged to him ... But like you said that he had placed his claim on the finger his ki nas ... Both had been shook up by the Chunri on her head, and now this scene ... He clearly say mein vohi karta ho Jo mein chata hoon ... Right after he has done this ...

Her not remberinf at her Roka ... Really bothered me ... I have said all this in my response to Bidz ...

I think I truly saw the scene a bit differently ... I saw it more along the lines of the Chunri ... As them both recognizing it as a sign and not stepping back from it ...

Ipoona...the chunari scene is for her as she implanted it in La's head and he was seeing only his girl and her mesmerizing beauty as his Dulhan avatar but not as a symbolically and same here...he doesn't give a hoot at this point about all of these rituals , later when these rituals are being placed then he realizes it first and connects the point as he researched on line what is Roca and all so he did connec those things..this is IPK and it's hidden side where we all have to dig in our own style and no one is incorrect as each one of those are valid in their own way .

Originally posted by: Ipoona

ArshiH ... Completely agree that he didn't care two hoots for signs and all that ... And he saw his Dhulan that day ... But he also had thrown the Chunri on Lavanya head ... And it found its way to Khushi ... I have always said that the most attractive characteristic of ASR for me was his different belief system ... But he is shook up by the ... He does feel the premonitions of her presence ... Knows that she feels it too ... All this is unsettling to say the least ... I saw this bandage scene in the same continuity ... Again repeating ... Not that they were getting engaged ... But that they were again in some

Extraordinary moment ...

Originally posted by: Horizon

bidz, you hit the nail right in the head. I don't think they both knew the implication of it, but Ipoona is right in a way that they accepted the fact that they can't avoid each other either by will or by destinity, as he didn't fight his urge to see her when he realized she was hurt and she didn't fight his taking care of her even though he most heart breakingly said "doesn't mean a thing".

I agree with you here Horizon. I don't think he understood the importance of the event during the bandagement. Given that both of them were heart broken prior to this, they were going thru a myriad of emotions at this point. I think that at this point, both understood that (in spite of what he said during Diwali) he claimed his right on her and she gave it to him. The atmosphere, the temple bells, the entire surrounding contributed to the surreal and deja vu feeling. It was an ehsaas at this point.

but when he was putting the actual ring on her he DID feel the DejaVU..

that it happened ealier...as he would say in the farm house "tumhare saath bitaye pal yaad ane lage".. he didn't forget a THING that happened between them.. rather they were continuously replaying in his head... a connection, passion he always had!

You couldn't have worded it better. I think this is exactly what happened. It all came back to him during the second engagement. He really didn't forget a thing.

Now when exactly he made these connections? may be during their hate marriage, may even be during the kidnap when he had all the time/retrospection in the world... or may even be while the rituals are happening in real time... but this man has been living breathing his moments with that girl every sec... so it didn't matter when he connected but he DID! (But, I sorely missed any FBs/ monologues for him before he confessed on phone that day.. the man of reflections...no nothing when he finally confesses to her? May be actor's availability issues.. what ever.. but would have been great).

I do think that this probably came back during the 2nd engagement. But as you said, it really doesn't matter. He breathed Khushi at all times.

he certainly knew/ respect this institute that is wife...marriage as he connects to the actual essence of a ritual NOT the way it is done! Just that HE was NOT ready for that earlier.

Originally posted by: Ipoona

Hi Bidz ... The way I saw it ...

In the moment, I felt both were aware of the implications of what he was doing ... While he wrapping the bandage, she clearly is stunned at what is taking place ... She knows what is happening ... Not that it is a sagai ... But it is a sign ... Similar questioning as Chunri on her head ... Another similar sign that indicates that they both are meant to be ... What is this? Questions him immediately after ... Kya chatay hai aap humsay ...

He does not believe in rituals, he does not believe in signs ... But he also does not treat it as though he just tying a bandage ... In the middle he looks directly into her eyes and after a little while, a brief introspective sideways dart of his eyes ...again caught doing something completely uncharacteristic ... Not that he is placing a ring ... But that they have a bond that is being strengthened ... No backing away from it in that moment ... He knows what she is thinking ... This is a sign ... And he does not trash it like he did the dupatta on Lavanya's head ... But instead stands by what he is doing and immediately after says ... Mein vohi karta ho Jo mein chahata hoon ... I write my destiny and now I have tied you to me ...

The priest incident immediately after, he stares after the priest ... Is distracted ... Not coz he was ignoring the priest ... But was thinking about the ritual they had just performed ... About what all of it means ... Hand of Destiny ... Divine providence ? Not at all ... But a man who outright rejects such notions, for the second time is stilled ...

At Teej, the sindoor, the breaking of the fast, the Pooja thali all were a backdrops for them ... No awareness of any of the symbolic references raining on them ... But this scene is different ... They both have felt the premonition of each other's presence ... The Chunri on head had been a moment of introspection for both of them ... And now they were again in the midst of something larger than themselves ... Something larger than the moment itself and both quietly accept that ...

Her sitting on the charpai and staring at her hands ... One with the ring ... One with the bandage ... A wishful questioning ... Do I believe it is what it is ... Did it really mean anything ...

Her not backing away from Shaym, when he advances forward with the ring .. Not that she believes they are engaged ... But that they are tied ... And she is protected ...

Later in 124 ... He starts to place the ring ... He is completely aware of what he is doing ...like he says he does exactly what he wants ...

The remarriage track ... For me that comment of Khushi's was a major major major drooped ball by the team ... Really for all the reasons Horizon said ... She who believed in the tiniest things as a smear of ghee, who had sat and starred at her hands after the incident ... Say Kab? Complete disconnect ... But then immediately say Tab say to his claim that u were mine from that moment ... Meaning she knew ...

Now him, he did not obviously go there to get engaged ... But definitely somewhere between now and 124 ring attempt he has worked it out ... I have bound her to me ... Tumhay mujeh baatan zaroori nahi samaj ... A lot of things said in that statement ... A lot of other content ...That he has a right on her ... And his Haq is not because of just this incident ... But also an incredulouation that this girl who believes in all this symbolic stuff has once again rubbished it ... Just like she had the Chunri ...

Originally posted by: Horizon

Ipoona, those underlined I guess I have different thoughts. I thought the symbolism up until the payash marriage or even the hate marriage is only for those watching their love unfold but NOT perceived by both of them. But after hate marriage they might have felt it, esp him, since he already confessed to himself and was ready to confess...there is a self realization.. enlightenment of sorts.

Khushi, seemed to be some one who has lot of text book knowledge but lacked GK! Becos she was shown to have known about scriptures, Rama, Krishna stories but NOT common things like about the phere until naniji mentioned it, or even the significance of the ring finger until buaji told her, but she would know about that chunari becos her amma told her about it. So yes, she made connections with things that she was already told about but not about the ones she wasn't informed of. So I don't think she made any connections with that bandage at the temple, but I interpreted her silent looks while he was putting on as though she was rather intrigued by this complex man.. blow hot.. blow cold.. showing her stars and abyss just minutes apart...he would say "doesn't mean a thing" and then comes right behind her to attend to her injury.. too complex to understand for an unexposed/naive girl like her. .. hence her genuine question "aap kya chahthe hai" as she truly didn't know what to do.

That man felt his right on her from the moment she fell in his arms.. he did n't need/ believe in any signs, not even during chunari, not even now. Chunari, he was only mesmerized by her beauty just one more time, the thoughts of a dulhan may or may not have crossed his head.. but he just was smitten by her, some thing like what he felt seeing her sprinting towards him in that lehenga in Nainital. And his looks to her while putting the bandage was more about taking care of her at his own will as and when he wants to , and neither Khushi nor her DM can do anything about it.

So it was more about her confusion for him and his confidence of blowing hot and cold as and when he wants,

Now when Khushi looked at both her fingers after buaji's ring finger info, yes she might have felt the bandage as an engagement but it felt it was more about that "seedha DIL tak".. dil.. pyar .. she pondered about like the day before Diwali how she wondered what love is.

That "tab se" connection of roka she seemed to have realized just then as he reminded her of their previous similar ritual transpiring.

Hope I made some sense.