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Posted: 12 years ago
^^Oh wiwy, such pleasure to see you cheerful blue my first login today. my dady was over had a great father daughter day. he lived not too far but it always sucks to say bye. So i can imagine how you must fee leaving ur parent . But hope your dad is super duper now :)

Thanks for reading the analysis, and thanks again for reading again😊 ur so sweet! and yes thanks for pointing that mom's of these young ones are our heroes😆 must thank them when the gals are happily married to their new hubbies *evil laugh* and LOL if my hubby new that song, i'm sure hew would sing it!!
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Arshidiehardfan



Loved it dr... Thanks for liking the VM & not telling my mom😆 Actually she too likes this serial & asks me to show few episodes whenever she gets bored. But I have never shown her those romantic scenes... I would cleverly skip them...

Hey I watched one of Barun's old interview again... His answers abt kids😆

Interviewer: How about kids?

Barun: We will have kids... I hope I can... We plan 3 or 4 yrs down the line now that we have to enjoy our lives

Interviewer: What do u want first? Girl or Boy?

Barun: It is gonna be my kid... Why would I be bias with the gender... Any male or female...

I love this guy a lot...


AD, you clever girl! if i was still under my moms roof, i would do that same. Though being used to american TV, maybe my mom would be so bothered with some of these romantic ones but i cen see myself being uncomfy when when he grazes his hand sexily across her back or how he walks towards her so determined to do things to her on Diwali night 😳 so i get it :)

anyway thanks for like the edits so much that you saved 😃 makes me super happy. also thanks for reading and commenting on the piece. About La, i think you may be right to a point but there were times like the kanya puja during navratri, La was show to be really upset when Arnav used Khushi's words and a few other times too,...i think the writing suffered when it cam to La. there was no consistency + i personally thins Sana Khan could've done much better and maybe if she did she would've be developed a bit better too. just my POW :)

Yah i love that answer of his in that interview. I mean what a stupid question to ask first of all. I love that he is so raw in his interviews...though i do think his recent more brushed up interviews are good for the masses, i hope he never loses this raw side to him, for ex calling everyone "yaar"...its so freaking cute!!

thanks again dear!
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52


hi arshi,

finally, a computer and some time, wonderful. welcome back. i also read your mother is better... very very happy to hear that. i have tonnes of reading and writing to do too, thanks to my almost 2-week break, let's dive in, what say.

yay, it's second anniv coming up... and i am still ooo dead at the thought of the boy.


I think i need to join you in the "dive in." The same two-week break you took, my collegue took a vacation to Europe, so being on double duty at work didn't help the writing...and on top that come home tired more than usual i slept and slept when i was supposed to read/write...now just realized how far behind i am and want o scream!! hats off to Cyn and Sohara, keeping up pretty good.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Horizon


Thanks for explaining Horizon, it does make sense. I guess if they wanted to they could've explained on that and made it interesting in these earlier ones but it also ez for me to sit here and say that, so i'll forgive them. :) no worries about 125, read at your convenience and it you don't get to it, no problem! cute song btw, i think b/c of this thread, thanks to chalhov, samin and you among others, i'm appreciating all these older songs that i used to bash my dad for listening to. the meanings are so deep. its funny how much Love has been such part of Indian cinema, always in positive light but why love marriages were not so common till the last two decades it seems anyway
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Originally posted by: ArshiHamesha


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ARSHI"S INDEX

Episode PART 124-125

Ring[Chakarvyue ]'PART 3 Continue

Chakarvyue is getting narrower as relationships are shaping at different level.The bond of Anjali-Shyam,Akash 'Payal,Shyam 'Khushi, Anjali-Khushi and even Raizadas-Guptas is shaping according to the position of Arnav and Khushi .They are the center of this chakarvyue which started a long time ago but came into action during Diwali.

very keen observation. can't agree more.

1-Shaping circles of Anjali-Khushi-Shyam along with family around these

Anjali brings Khushi down where all the house ladies congratules her but Khushi's convulsion and pensive pain is reflecting from her face.She tells her fianc name upon asking and everyone stops at one moment but Anjali resolves the issue as there are so many Shyam other than hers.Mamiji's 007 nature is worth watching as always.

PONDERING CONNECTED DOTS: Anjali is always love to have this blind fold as after revelation 1st time she still blames Khushi and Arnav..not Shyam.

When Anjali snatches the phone from Arnav's hand and receives the call but Shyam's ground shakes with Rani Sahiba's voice ,I wish ground would open and he slips through in as he tells Khushi his disgusting date plans'Yuck!

Shyam is really yuck.


La and Anjali overhears this but Anjali becomes dubious after hearing Shyamji from Khushi's mouth..hmmm..but she also notices Khushi's convulsion again.This time she askes with concerns ,Is everything allright?She senses something is wrong but Khushi smiles with faade by ignoring Anjali.I wish this smart Anjali we had all along but we got Di Ki Saut track.

true I don't know how cum this smart woman became dumb later. Inconsistency of writers.


Slouchy Scorpion hesitation and irritations are worth watching when his Rani sahiba tells him Khushi's fiance's name.He antagonizes but again his artful slouchy moves keeps him at peace but Anjali does not let him make any story to cancel the date and DM saves our Khushi from this scoundrel.

God protects her.

Symbolisms and connections:Anjali said to Shyam "if you see yourself in the mirror you will find his name"Shyam's reflection in the mirror meaning his true picture is clear to him but he has no clue behind the scene as he is totally unaware of Khushi-Arnav- Anjai triangle.He's been totally blind how strong the relation is in between Arnav and Khushi.

2-Circle of Akash and Payal

Other side The cicles of relationhips are getting stronger too.Optimistic Akash ad his auto love is racing😆 through her front door to patio and then her kitchen window,He tries her best to convince her to think about him and not about his status and family.The only wise thing he says today,"Just tell me do you like me or not?" Payal's tears rolls down in the answer which brings a hope on his face ,"if she didn't say yes ,but didn't say No either."

3-Circle of Arnav and Khushi


Arnav with chastening pain watches her Di giving Khushi a loving hug of blessings and but his view over her finger with other guy ring is like inflating venom in his brain which is ready to spittle in madness.They both share the turbulence of their overwhelming emotions along with RabaVe .He vociferates at her ,"Khushi"..but her ignorance fumes him and He grabs her phone while she was talking to Buaji '..

very well written. Arnav was vulnerable at that point.

Khushi,"Yeh aap kya kar rahe hain.hum baat kar rahe thay"[what are you doing I was talking]


Arnav in rage,"mein bhi baat kar raha tha"[I was talking too]hmmm'this part grabs my attention the way he asks her with his face gesture couple of minutes ago [as shown above]he is referring here."Kya kar rahi ho tum"[what are you doing ..the voice modulation goes down as he is pleading '.Khushi ignoring it all,"hum ne kya kia".[What did I do?]

Arnav in rage and bafflement,"tumhari sagai ho gyae,..kaise'tum ne mujhe batana zaroori nahi samjha..Kissi ko pata kyuon nahinn hai"[you got engaged'how'you didn't even bother to tell me]hmmm.Why she supposed to tell you she meant nothing ,girls like her have purpose behind everything'not a single girl matters to ASR then WHY?

ASR forgot that he told those words to Khushi. I told you this sexy man is a big time bipolar.

Khushi in quizzical mode,"aap ko iss se kya fadak padta hai"[why does it matter to you?]

Arnav grabbing her fiercefully,"Mujhe iss se fadak padta hai Dammit' kyuonke'.[it matters to me because.]His ego and fear stops him completing his sentence'.he just keeps starring at her with agonizing eyes'.which are delivering his message which he can't verbalize'..

well said. Gosh he is so complex!

PONDERING CONNECTED DOTS:AND Khushi despite getting humiliated, taunted ,and degraded by this tycoon still cares about him,loves him and understands each and every gesture of him.She does not need words'''never forces him 'Jab man kare tab bata dijiye ga [Whenever you want tell me]to all the way hum jante hain aap bhi who sare pal jeena chahte hai[I know you also want to live those moments] to hum jamjhte hain [I KNOW]for submission

very good connection. Khushi knows him so well, that can read his unspoken words from his eyes.

Khushi also remembers this before her dream and after Arnav's 1st confession "I love you"'which he supposed to finish here'..

Anjali intercedes and wants Khushi to come down to share her big news'.

Khushi turns around aberrantly to assimilate and understand his pain and he turns around for giving her gesture he doesn't care by swallowing the pain but he can't hide this from her.


Her heart knows but she is helpless here in these egocentric walls which he is guarding around him .She leaves him in unfathomable pain by hugging her gobs as both of them are walking parallel at the bank of the same river but she wants to move on.

She doesn't want to move on. but people around her compelling her to move on.


Pause here:Khushi is a fighter and her belief on DM "she is with me all the time" gives her strength all the time .Its Arnav who never let her move on.Even after contract marriage fight ,she tried and she did but he brought her back always by hook or by crook.

very well said again.

Standing there looking his life walking away felt same but circumstances are not same ,he can twist the game back at his terms as Arnav Singh Raizada khabi haar nahi manta"'..[ASR never loses]There was the moment when he was helpless,couldn't do much for his parents but not today.

PONDERING CONNECTED DOTS:FROM now on every time when Khushi will go away from him or fear of losing her is settling in his mind as he makes ways to get her back,forced marriage or blackmailing whatever works for him to keep Khushi around him.That fear was at the edge when he almost loses her after kidnapping and he will take a promise from her for not leaving him on Bachelor's night."mujh se wada karo mujhe khabi chor keh nahin jao gi"[Promise me you will never leave me..]

He is not at peace until he gets her back at any terms'..He can't let her out of his sight as today the very first time he felt strongly losing her.His jealousy seeing her worrying about other person over him is intoxicating his blood with the venom of possessiveness. He can't handle it as he does not know how?What to do ?How do make things work again?But he has to and he will at his own terms.Yes now you know how does it feel ,right ..when you put her go through like hell announcing your engagement ,and at the top you declared your intensions by telling her "koi matlab nahin hai "[You don't matter to me]then why now?His clenching jaw and glaring eyes delineates his state of mind at her while holding the phone while she gazes up and then steps back sensing his intensions but still concerned about him.

PONDERING CONNECTED DOTS: Khushi felt strongly jealousy at the bachelor's night when she wants to pull the witch hair'.all the way down to Sheetal track. On the other hand Arnav always feels jealousy,from NK to Shyam and all the way up to reporter during Mrs India contest'

where, there is love there should be jealousy.


In their Eternal Heaven,he is on the mission to destroy every toy to take out his frustrations on her mother as he is angry again at her,why is she taking away something precious from her if she just gave him back under the stars.It seems he is angry at her parents too as Khushi hurt him but why its ok for you to hurt their child but in return she can't do that to you ,may be that's what these twinkling hearts of yours making you understand..Stop hurting her but you are not listening'..still doing the same and thinking the very same'


In his contortion after her declaration of engagement,"yeh humari sagai ki anghooti hai"[this is my engagement ring] and La's burning teasing words,"dekhona chamkilli kitni impatient ho rahi hai apne honewale husband se baat karne keh liye"[look how Khushi wants to talk to her fianc impatiently] his agonizing pain was taking life of these plants.Khushi sees his impudence and


He hurt his hand badly and Khushi tries to stop him but his speed gets faster and so is the fear around Khushi."Why are you talking like this'and you are not even paying attention?"

Arnav furiously,"mein kya karoon .. tumhain kya fadak padta hai"[why it matters to you] just like she did 'Ok so now you want her to realize "it does matter isn't it?"He is deeply hurt by her engagement and at this point he wants her to acknowledge it.

He hurts his hand and Khushi's heart with staggering pain "Dekh na chot lag gaye ap ko[you got hurt]as he doesn't let her touch him'but gives her romm to see his inside scorching pain which is written all over'.



PONDERING CONNECTED DOTS; khushi snatches away her hand after the fight before Delhi mein Baali 'hum issi keh laieq hain na' tou sehne dijiye na [I deserve this pain so let me bear it]




Khushi jerks up along with him when La puts meds on him'and that isn't gone unnoticed by him either' La asks Khushi to help but he declares his intensions in a negative answer to make Khushi feel guilty and bad'..but La forces her.Khushi takes his hand and wrist in her two hands 'such a beautiful assurance from her side as if she is saying if you let me I will hold you '.He is at peace with her touch as "meelon ki thakan door ho gye eik lamas bhare haath se"


As he excogitates at her each move' with his side corner eyes and assured nonchalant La he is happy with her and their marriage.He declares and repudiates to Khushi while telling La,"Aakhon mein dekh kar sab kuch nahin jana jata'.Jo nazar nahin aa raha iss ka matlab yeh nahin who hai nahi"'[u can't find everything by looking into eyes,if there is nothing it means it does not exist]

Bingo so taunting has big meaning ,He wanted her to understand through his eyes which she did understand but wanted him to say it but he wants his ego chin up.He is bleeding her heart with his words and knows it.He lies to La clearly in his war with Khushi,"I am happy..may be you can't see it but I am"When La gives him a peck,he gets a relief seeing Khushi's uneasiness with jealousy "Fadak padta hai" '.Both are yearning and bleeding internally for each others' proximity and love in this desert of ego'.👏👏👏


He congratulates her in a taunting tone ,"ajeeb baat hai na, jis din meri engagement announce hui tum mujhe wish karna bhool gayen, aur aab tumhari engagement hui to..[its strange you forgot to congratulate me for my engagement and now your engaement']

"Congratulation Khushi Kumari Gupta, tumhe tumhari..and Khushi's phone rings'

and then he sees her unhappy and uncomfortable talking to her fiance but her talking and paying attention to someone else is unbearable for him '"sab tou tumhari shaadi ki baat se bohat khush hain par tum"..lagta hai tumhain abhi abhi pata laga hai keh larka ameer name hai"''.[everyone is happy you're your egagement but you'it seems you just found out that the guy isn't rich]


Khushi stares at him in confounding way as she can't get him how come a person be so brutal and so gentle [during bandage..Nainital'etc] at the same time.Shaitan and Rajkumar'.She is unable to understand him..Why is he doing that? ..to punish but to who''me or himself..If he is angry so is she ,he throws daggers in anger and she delivers silence in anger.

PONDERING CONNECTED DOTS:Again the similar taunt in the office before GH incident '.Tum jaisi larkiyan khch bhi bina maqsad keh nahin karteen"'[girls like you don't do anything without purpose].But why do I smell he wants her to snap ,so he can say and declare his right on what is his''but she leaves him numbed and hurt without saying a word but conveying him everything through her eyes and he did the same.

Khushi always break contacts and become silent as she did with DM after marriage and same after Heer Ranjha track with Arnav and same during Sheetal track.

good observation again.

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very beautifully written.
All the blue lines I loved most.
my comments are everywhere.
And I loved all the beautiful pics, collages, gifs.
The track is really too intense.
you said Khushi wants to move on. In this case I want to say, Khushi is such a girl who knows how to live her life even in her deepest sorrow. she is a big optimist, where I have to say Arnav is a pessimist.Both Arnav and Khushi lost their parents at their tender age. But Khushi never sat sad remembering her parents. moreover she tried to find her parents with her. Moreover Arnav always tried to find pain everywhere. He also grew up in his grand parent's home with a picture perfect happy Akash's family, with loving grandma and ever loving mother like sister. But still he couldn't learn to be happy in spite of light hearted people around. now if you think about khushi you will see how positive she is. Just remember aftermath of the contract marriage. In spite of Arnav's unbearable acrimony she didn't stop to laugh, she irritated Arnav in 100 ways, did all the childish antics with him, what not. When finally she came to know the reason of the marriage and Arnav mistrust she broke down completely. But still she tried her heart and soul to prove herself, never gave up.that is Khushi a strong and determined girl.
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Posted: 12 years ago
@wiwy

Hey wiwy hope everything is fine with your father,I know how it feels .Yes she is home since thursday evening.The feeling is always there when anything happens and especially at this age.I am in it all the time.My prayers are with you.

😊Thnx for reading and liking the analysis.So kind of you.I can't comment this is in between you all sautens but have you ever think I am a real Bong[Punjabi] but nahhh you can fight for him I am fine without these Bongeys.😆
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52



gorgeous take, ami. reading you after a huge gap. thoroughly enjoyed. so agree about that transferring of feelings to viewers. absolutely heart rocking stuff. the psychology of the character was intensely understood by creators, and of course barun the ha ha boy had become asr the what the man, no gap between him and his character. the hand cutting scene and the emotions around it so complex and intoxicating, hard to believe you are not there, it's not happening to you. and his jealousy searing the phonecall from shyam moments was something else. thanks, ami, pinks and purples say more than my words ever can.

i still can't figure out though, what exactly khushi read in his reactions. did she guess he loved her? or did she just feel he was not as indifferent as he tried to pretend. and that itself was so powerful a realisation that it shook her deep inside. she knew she had to reach him somehow and calm his raging insides but perhaps she had no idea why he raged or why she really had to make him feel better... their feelings were so compulsive... almost beyond what can be clearly expressed in neat little words... just roiling, huge feelings that demanded attention. just mulling, interested to know what you think. 😳


Thanks so much Indi!! again great to have you back :) thanks for all the pinks and purples, i'm sure you can put them in better words :) boy so many times i have hard time putting into words all that this show does to me. In 124, my take turned out pretty long, but still feel i didn't say all i wanted to...i guess some things are just meant to be felt .

About khushi, totally agree with your "Roiling" and you may be right. I feel she knows that he loves her deeply, but she wouldn't dare admit it not to him, and not to herself, esp after how hurt he left her on Diwali night + his constant taunting about her aukaad hesiyat i think keeps her for admiting the "pyaar" word to herself. Realized for the first time in the episode when they meet on their "first date" to bring Payash together, she was trying to tell him that he thinks her jiji loves akaash, but couldn't say the word "Pyaar"... in front to him. And my first thought is that its b/c she just can't/wont allow herself to admit it, but if ever he would she wouldn't mind just like on Diwali night.. At this pt they're understanding of each other is so deep, their mehsoos is stronger, it this she knows, another hint is when she tell shi "hum jaant hain aap ham pe gussa hai" soon after he blows ups on La after shopping trip. So that my little view pt :))
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: RebeccaDaphne

Congrats for Thread 12!!! Thank you all for the wonderful writing, collages, gifs and all the hard work!!

Brilliant first page, sorry am late, I still have to go through all the other pages, can't wait to read everyone's posts, am very behind so busy with studies and work, but will enjoy reading! 🤗


Hi Rebecca!! always great to hear from you :) hope all is good. good luck with your studies!!! and come back to us when you can 🤗 the studies happening here are alot more fun😉
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: supriya.arshi


thanks so much dear, as always love going through you comments. glad you like the KILLER look edit...that scene just puts me on freez everytime. the music and his look khatarnaakh!
hehe, so i can see why you think i'm taking sides, in these epis i'm really not. but i felt 124/125 belong to Arnav and his pain. I feels bad for her too and i'm glad you saw that, but i think i get sucked into everything Arnav and and it transfers on to the writing. I really thing its b/c how brilliant Barun is in these epis. thanks again dear!

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: wiwy

Hey friends


Logged in. Was missing you guys. Also feeling miserable. Have to leave Jaipur and Parents , Monday evening.

Thanks Indi, Sohara, BD, Cynthia, Arshi for episode analyses. Masterpieces all of them. believe me, I read each more than two times.

Arshi, you must be relieved to have your mother back home. Take care of her and yourself. 😊I am already missing mine.

Salooni loved your convo with Arshi. Episodes are running to the finishing line.Might as well relive our dreams as long as we can. 😊

Samin your videos 'Tum bin jaaon kahan' made me want to share VM of same name by Tammyfied1.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5ULFJZgik It is a tear-jerker but a beautiful VM from ASR's POV. A Must See!
Sigh! EKR, I had a diary full of her quotes. Got to find it. 😊

Durgey, nice poem on Arshi getting her lappy back and into action mode! 👏

Great! Anita's you got all A's! (Thankyou DM, she missed out on S and R! )😃

AD, superb VMs. The first and third one are naughty and naughty! Does Your Mother Know?!😆

BD! AD and Supi's mom will keep them out of our hair, just like Sohara and Goofy's mom, what say meri sauten! What luck!😉


Sabrina, Indi, BD, Cynthia do you hubbies sing,'Chori chori, chupke, chupke, tere mere bin, iss kamre mein aur kaun hai?' How sweet! The benefits of jealousy and fantasy! Iss pyaar ko kya naam doon?! 😉

Indi, missed your ramblings so much! Ajeeb daastan hai yeh, is my dad's favourite song. 😊

Chalhov, nice poster! Title song on page 1! Wow that was a very pleasant surprise! 👏

Rebecca, I spy you! Come out of your hiding place, pilleeejj. 😭

Oma, good one on Arshi peace treaty! 👍🏼

Kate, ha ha that chakki pissing video! 😆

Above all, Horizon, right you are . IPK and Arshi are our Sholay! ⭐️



wiwy,

koto din por.

leaving home is a bad one every time, no matter what the age. so i understand and know that choked feeling you'll leave jaipur with. a big hug to you and hope you feel better soon.

your dad is well, that's what remains from this whole experience... that's wonderful. he likes ajeeb dastaan? ajeeb was such a key ipk word, and this was the only song that popped into my head, so beginning of track ajeeb i had to quote... still got to do 75, the big one in this series.

ha ha about the benefits of jealousy and fantasy... told my man i was going to read out that conversation between the four of us to him. then fought with him about something and refused to, now he's leaping around the place in make up, sweet mode begging me to read out about the doosra aadmi to him... ajeeb dastaan everywhere.

missed my rambling? 😆 one read of 124 and that ain't likely to ever happen again... you read it twice? tum bahut ajeeb ho, wiwy. 🤣



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