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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: charlotte74


Great post Indi!

I have been thinking the exact same thing watching the episodes from the red saree scene.
Khushi's feeling started way before but ...

I think she never wanted to acknowledge her feelings even to herself because she could never understand how she could feel that way toward a man who was being rude to her.
This continued for a long time as Arnav's behaviour ran hot and cold and then hot again.

But I have felt that Khushi's feeling could have become clear during the 3 months MU phase post hate marriage.

I have always wished that

1) Arnav had told her why he married her in about a month and a half maybe around Heer Ranjha
2) Khushi discovers Arnav's parents' suicide and gets a semblance of understanding as to why he won't believe her and is determined to proved her innocence
3) In the process she realizes she is doing all this because she loves him and tells him but before he can react he gets kidnapped

Then Arnav's I love you and Khushi's mission to save him would have been more believable.

Somehow the 'Hum bhi aapse I love you dammit' after such a long time didn't cut it. But I guess they wanted to go the old fashioned way and have the man say it first.

Anyway bridge under the water I guess

Just couldn't help commenting on your discussion :) I believe khushi was effected in a good way by ASR after rain scene. I feel she was shocked / taken back on meeting a rude angry guy like ASR initially. But maybe there was that "first sight" attraction between the two which generally does happen between two good looking people :) But after the rain scene I feel she started developing dhak-dhaks towards the laad-govr. Remember the look she gave after the resignation outburst while going away from ASR in RM. She was angry yet she was concerned, sad on having hurt him ! Her constant self talk convincing herself that she is happy because she doesn't have to see the shaitaan's face ever again etc., indicate her desire to meet him .. her anxiety on not having any reason to see anymore. So, I feel khushi's feelings for ASR developed during this period.
Charlotte, khushi and ASR would have ideally admitted thier feelings for each other during payash wedding if not for the shyam incident. But after that I feel khushi was confused, having been forced into the marriage. She wouldn't have admitted her feelings without knowing why he hates her so much. But yes, I was disturbed with her behaviour after ASR comes back post kidnap. Her acting wierd and getting away from ASR was a bit too much for me.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52

ami,
thanks for reading that old one. yeah on crooner, we all got wonderfully carried away and into the emotions. shyam's lust vs arnav's lust, many discussions on that too. but you know, that;'s the thing, one doesn't have to be part of forum, hang out with viewers and discuss, not even start from day one. switch on and watch and it will hit you. even in the tamest episodes in the early days something would grab you. i keep reading the word "filler." nothing felt like that to me, of course that si how maybe even cretives viewed those episodes, yet, every time... har baar... something in it. i have never fast forwarded an episode, even the lamest ones. fearing i'd miss out on something.

i am so glad the cliff top episode got you, though you were a very new viewer.

it's all there, isn't it.

if i saw no other episode of ipk, just this one, it would still feel complete. a piece of art practically. in the way he cradled her, he begged and pleaded and got angry, tried everything, feared she was gone, his eyes opened and focussed as he heard her "hmm," he looked at her then gathered her close and rocked gently, immersed in her and his emotion, their emotion; almost a prayer on his face. the way he placed her dupatta on her, and then lifted her, smiled proud, relieved, fulfilled at her holding of his vest and then walked with long strides toward the future, dupatta trailing, horizon behind... in all of that a whole love story was told.

she told you how true it was with her complete faith in him, her utter dependence, this was her home, her man.

we have cursed the makers often, been very upset at their letting the story down. but sometimes i feel with such perfection they wash away their sins.


Hi Indi! I didn't even know "filler episode till i started on IF. something i'm glad i wasn't in IF till the remarriage happened. I think ppl would've point out a lot of flows that i didn't pay attention to. the second time around i know i'm in for comparrisons to these earlier ones but i was content with all episodes till after the remarriage. the only one that bothered me was Khushi suicide, it was way out of character... there girl who once said "marenge kyu? karenge ya AUR karenge" even for the man she loved, stepping aside would be more into her character since she thought she was in His and La's way. i still watched it, it was carried out well by Sanaya. Loved what you said in blue.
Personally i can forget that smaile he gets on his face with the "hmmm" and she caughs and spits all over his face😆 but he was happy for all of it even the spit, just kept looking and smiling...so greatful.

Lol, I agree the makers can be forgiveg...perfection is the right words. You always manage to put into words that I (i'm sure so many of us) have trouble expressing...har baar 😉
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: ArshiHamesha

@Ami

Hi Arshi!
first of all WELCOME BACK!
great take on 42, ❤️d all in Blue ❤️❤️❤️ in Purple.
Absolutely loved the Anjali= Gift part. She is indeed a gift to Shyaam, for his financial well being and for his own well being. She love nothing more that her deceiving husband (and her bro). Shyaam misused this gift for too long, and while at the end she escaped his misuse, too much lost time that she will never get back. just sad.

Thnx Ami
Good to be back.Thnx to you guys keeping me on my feet.
Yes Anjali is indeed the most fragile character in IPK.Even Khushi is orphan too but what a contrast she knows how to fight back but Anjali easily get defeated and yes her disability makes it more hard for her.I can totally understand her dependance on Arnav up to certain level,makers took it too far my POV.She did lose all by this Blind faith of hers.
I always wanted to see her emergence as a STRONG lady but in vain.She remained Poojali ,


No problem, we all help keep each other on our feet :)
I agree with you about Anjali, i thinkg there was so much potential to show her becoming a strong independent woman and Arnav/Khushi supporting her. they were careless with so many plots at the end, maybe they thought her burning his things was enough to show she's doens't need him, she'll survive. now that we know Barun's decision to quite the show was much earlier, i wonder if the makers were trying to bring the show down...still don't get why they didn't just work on making tight script to end the show with dignity. it will always haunt me
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Posted: 12 years ago

Episode 44!!!!

Shyam was hopping around with a plate of jalebis, serving people…at this point he looked like a servant of the Raizadas than a son in law. Nani asked how was the Teej pooja and Anjali said it went find and khushi was there…Hearing khushi's name, shyam dropped the plate of jalebis, Anjali looked shocked and asked if he was okay and shyam said he was not paying attention. Mami ji said that saying Phati Sari's name is bad luck, arnav went into thinking mode and got the hiccups. Anjali said that someone is thinking about him…it was totally khushi, she always thinks about him (I don't blame her either). Then mami ji was it must be Lavanya and nani got mad saying I hope chotey forgets her soon, arnav got mad and said that today let's not talk about it since everyone is together and can you forget about this matter for a little bit. Nani said no, and shyam said sit down Bhai (apparently he considers arnav as a brother) let's talk about it. Arnav said he cannot be here anymore and leaves.

The scene shifts to the GH, Payal said I don't think shyam is doing anything special for bua ji's pension, then khushi said shyam ji is trying (I swear this girl never says anything bad about anyone) , payal just nods. Khushi and payal are thinking of ways to get money, khushi came up with the idea of starting buaji's chicken sari business again. Payal said that is a good idea, let's get the sari from the RM and start with those, Khushi gets mad, and said why do you always mention that rakshaas, and if you mention his name again, I will make jalebis again. Payal said you can make jalebis only if we have ration. This shows that they are really tight from money right now, and the sisters are feeling guilty.

The scene shifts with Anjam and Arnav talking about the situation between His relationship with la. And arnav said nani has no right to make a decision on his life. Shyam is like think of the situation this way, and he suggests, if you do not want to get married don't get married. Shyam said you are happy when you are happy with us…that is why it is called a rishta. Arnav is like I have a rishta with la, but I do not want to give it a name, why does nani not want to understand it. Shyam is like she is a nani, and she is old school…then arnav said he is fed up with her attitude. Shyam said he was a way to fix this. This scene pretty much shows that arnav goes to shyam to solve his problems and shyam is the second person next to DI who makes him think and calms down.

Now the scene shifts to Anjam and Nani. Nani said that la can never be a bahu in this house. Shyam said that never said never, this is the problem. Shyam said that you stll have the voice in this house…if you did not then why is chotey show worried about your decision…Then he said that shyam and everyone is by nani and he will support her. Pretty much shyam is convincing nani to let la to live in the RM…so that she can changer her ways. He convinces her by saying that the Time has changed…and it is only for a few day, just to let her understand us. Only shyam can convince nani to let La live with them before marriage…even though she does not agree with it but she trusts shyam…This shows that shyam is at a high position in the house and he always gets his way with his sweet words.

Now khushi is walking back and forth in her room, wondering why this rakshaas is always in her mind. She keeps thinking she forgot something over there and realized that she left her Devi Maiya idol at the office. She now has to go back to get her DM.

Anjam are in their room, and she is massaging her hair. Anjali said to make words they should learn from him…Shyam said that is all I can give you…and Anjali said that is all I want is your love…Shyam then asks why do you want la and arnav together if youd do not like her. Anjali said that she is doing it for arnav's happiness. Arnav comes to their room and Anjali said guess what your jija ji did. Arnav was like I am sure he convinced nani!!! And arnav gives shyam a watch, it is a set pair. Anjali was like there is one for me, and shyam said the model jija ji like only came in a set (my question is how did arnav know what type of watch shyam liked so that is why you got a watch…(I think shyam chose it purposely because it comes in a set, makes it easier for arnav to buy it). Arnav actually smiles when Anjam are together. I love the reason why he bought the watch…it was a sweet thing he said. Arnav goes to his office on a Sunday!!!!

Khushi and Arnav are on their way to go to the office!!!! Khushi tell her family that she left her DM there, and she cannot sleep because she forgot it. They are forced to let her go. Khushi thinks that Arnav will not be there, and that is the only way that convinces her family to let her go. Arnav calls la to pack her bags because she is going to stay there. La is talking about how excited she is. He looks like he is not paying attention. La said what are some tips should I follow, Arnav said just be yourself…so la is like that means you like me for being me. As she said that he passes khushi's desk with the DM and stops (RABBA VEY) while thinking of khushi, he said yeah I like you the way you are. La said I love you. Arnav said nothing but saying I am in the office I will call you back. He tell sthe peon to remove the stuff from the desk and send it to her house.

Shyam is talking to bua ji. And bua ji is like we miss you. Shyam asks for khushi and said that she went to the office because she forgot her stuff. SHyam quietly said office…arnav is at the office and quickly cuts the call. Anjali is in the background and after he cut the call Anjali said Aap…he looked scared thinking that Anjali heard. Khushi is at the front step of AR and before she enters, she thinks of all the bad things ASR did to her. She opens the door and stops and gets nervous hoping that Arnav is not there…she starts fidgeting and telling herself not to worry it is Sunday and no one will come. Episode ends!!

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: ipkkndfan30

EPISODE 45Two people actually hating each other's guts yet cannot think of anything other than each other. One in office hoping to drown his thoughts in work. Other one trying to get all her personal effects away from that man. Both trying to get away from each other but fate doesn't keep them apart :)Both can feel each others presence.. isn't it devine the way they can just sense ! wish it can happen in real life :)Khushi, doesn't believe this shaitaan has any right intentions .. ignores him all the way.. ASR on the other hand wants just to explain himself to her but unable to do so.. getting irritated or rather frustated.Shyam at RM, all happy, relaxed and at ease since khushi is out of ASR's office. But DM has other plans. Through out the episode and rather through out IPK, we see DM's devine intervention.. whatever Shyam does, khushi or ASR do, they end up meeting each other .. irritating each other .. shouting at each other but I feel they enjoy doing it. Thier heart longs to see each other secretly. They might curse the other but feel empty or bored when not in touch. This is pure attraction. In the store room ASR and Khushi fight yet again. Dupatta does its work yet again. ASR doesn't get a chance to tell his point yet again :))

Shyam again playing games, thinking he will get away.. how stupid these cheaters are.. i mean they think they can actually live a double life and get away with it !! I wonder what makes them so confident !! Yet Anjali like women do exist in our real life who pardon and ignore the most obvious wrong things committed by thier husbands ! And Anjali here must not have even dreamt of her husband to be so.


Hi Dear!
some great pts 😊
stuff in blue stuck out for me and LOVED what you had say in purple.
LOL in red, this love story has me wishing alot of things in real life and this presence feeling thing is at top of list 😆

Isn't it funny that they shout at eathother only when they're alone. Especially Arnav, doesn't make peep when other ppl are around (thought he makes alot of eye contact). its like they both have this side to they only to show each other. the way they have constructed this love story is better than any i could've dreamt up.

I agree with you 100% about Anjali-like women in real like, looking the other way even when there is doubt is more common that ppl would think. at this pt Anjali has no real reason to doubt, she asks him questions, like the newspaper, but not b/c she thinks he's lying. During the kidnap track she walks into khushi feeding him kheer, she looked the other way and a few times she caught him in Arnav's room,a gain she was unwilling to accept her hubby had ill intentions.
that aspect was shown realistically, As i was telling ArshiH, i do wish, she was shown to have become independent + a nice love before the end of the show.

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Posted: 12 years ago
Episode 45!!!!!

the episode starts with arnav busy typing on his laptop, but he cannot concentrate on his work because he is constantly thinking of khushi and the time she did not listen to him at the mandir...this bothers and him, and he feels he cannot get peace until he gets his word in...just as he leans on his chair and closes his eyes...khushi enters!! The wind starts blowing and they both feel each other's presence, mostly it was arnav!!! He goes to his window in his office and watches khushi walks by and he starts thinking of all the time they had with each other. Khushi on the other hands starts walking and unconsciously sits at her desk, thinking about the times she had with arnav. After a while she notices arnav and jumps out of her seat, she gets scared because she has no idea what he will do to her. Then khushi starts looking for her stuff, and the peon said that he put it in the storage room, since the delivery guy is not here it was put there. THe peon said that arnav told him to send her stuff to her, she immediatly looks back at arnav and said she knows how to do her own things. Arnav calls khushi to her office and she told the peon to show her the storage room...As khushi was walking she was telling herself not to look up and towards the end she could not help herself and she looks back at arnav!!! Arnav starts heading to the Storage room, looking like he will tear off someone's head. Once entering the storage room, khushi was complaining that the rakshaas has to annoy her on sunday when it was suppose to be his day off. Khushi finds DM, and Arnav comes in and said How dare you KKG!!! khushi falls as long with DM. Arnav lunges and saves the DM instead of her, He knows how important DM is to her so he caught it than saving her. Khushi falls on the cusion/ bean bag chair thing and arnav fell on her with DM on his hand. Then they stair at each other, with styrofoam balls flying on them (NO clue where those came from, but i am pretty sure they do not fall like that). Khushi becomes conscious of their position and ASR gets up sensing her uncomforableness. Khushi's phone rings and it is shyam, asking her why she went to the office. Khushi said that she forgot some stuff and that she does not want to stay here a moment longer. Hearing that ASR gets mad...Shyam hangs up the phone and BAM anjali appears. Khushi starts packing her stuff and tries to scurry off. Arnav is like for a person who does not talk why are you so quiet, she keeps walking...and Arnav gets even madder saying i cannot handles this batameez behavior...so he closes the door and the door knob falls off. Khushi's phone rings again, and this time it was payal. Arnav got so pissed off with all this he took her phone and through it away and i guess it broke or went to narnia after that. And Arnav said Let Me finish (all sexy like)!!!! khushi got scared and had tears...Arnav saw her tears and stepped away...Her tears affect him so much because he is scared to cause her anymore pain. Khushi tries to open the door, and arnav is like you can't do it so stop...Khushi rebuttles and said you are you to say what i can't do. Khushi tries to open the window but found out that she cannot get out because it is blocked...the wind starts to blow and that lucky piece of fabric landed on Arnav's face...khushi starts to feel concious of her self and tries to cover her neck...arnav tried to hand her the dupatta but she moves further away...finally he gave it to her and she puts it on...As she starts to walk away, that lucky fabric started to fly to arnav...it was like it is tellling khushi you are not done with him...settle your differences!!!!

these two people apparently hate each other so much, that they always want to be with each other, whether in person or in their thoughts...they cannot let each other go...I think this is the saying sometimes love is stronger than hate...but right now they have no clue what they are feeling ( i think they are at the attraction phase slowly approaching love)
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: cinthiann1758


Hi! it has been way too long since I have been able to sit down, read and speak to you girls. I like vacation much better than real life! haha. My husband came home and made a surprise visit to us for the week so it is now going to be even more difficult to spend time here, so my plans for reading and commenting will have to be prolonged until later.
I love this thread and all the views(some similar, some different, some more in depth) of everyone.
IPK has been a show that has changed my life. The intensity of these star crossed lovers has brought me back to the belief that love conquers all! I was born and raised in the USA, into an Italian American family and it took an Indian serial for my faith and belief in an intense soul mate type love to be renewed. (I feel I have found my Laad Govenor for we have been together over 35 years). I have watched many serials in my life but none has touched me as intensely as IPK and these two actors characters. Unbelievable! I know it is the characters of Arnav and Kushi and not the actors themselves, that are responsible for this intense attraction to IPK. Barun and Sanaya are incredible actors for it is their portrayal of these characters that has attracted me. (The two of them in real life, are still just young adults, silly and learning to mature).I just love these earlier tracks for the intensity of budding love or attraction is so powerful. I see now that he was hit hard much more than Kushi at first. I believe her naivety was why she didn't understand why he was always on her mind. I recently saw the episode when Kushi sells her bangles and decorates his office with the plants she bought with that money to get Lavanya and him back together. He goes to Lavanya 's apt. to take her back to his house and when he hugs Lavanya, she feels hurt. I believe this is the actual moment when she realizes that she feels for him. It was so awesome. So I think that his attraction to her was the catalyst to deny these emotions there by treating her badly. He realized first and she was much slower in recognition.
I look forward to when I can just sit back and read what everyone has written as i sojourn through this journey with you all!



cynthia,
italian american? you obviously have got the hindi nuances so well, i would have never guessed from your updates you weren't hindi knowing if not speaking.

yes, he is your laad gov, 35 years, wonderful. mine i've known 30 odd years and been married to for 27 of those.

i've always been a bit nutty about love, and iss pyaar ko felt and understood this feeling so well, i was hooked. never been chained to a serial before, in any language. this minute to minute understanding of a feeling and the faith that it is indeed beyond comprehension but brings a sense of eternity to our transient lives, ufff i am sold on this pyaar. this exists. no one can convince me otherwise.

the writing and the two actors came together unbelievably to create a story i couldn't turn away from. in the process i discovered one of the finest actors i've ever seen, that too on a daily soap. barun sobti. have to say, sanaya irani is a better actor in my estimate than most of our movie actresses.

somewhere behind, i've written my feelings on when khushi felt attracted, su had asked if it was at the point you mention, when he hugs la. yes, it crystallised crazily at that point, but i think it started before. and even at that point she didn't clearly identify the feeling, but her insides knew. as happens with such things. ohhh this love thing, i tell ya.

read and write when you can. it's been fantastic hanging out in thsi diverse colourful thread.

and all the best with your lg on this visit.

see ya 🤗



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Posted: 12 years ago
episode 46!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The scene started off where the show left off on episode 45!!!!
as khushi put on her dupatta, she started to walk off and then her dupatta again flew to arnav!!! i feel like it was stopping her, like it wanted khushi to listen to arnav (maybe it was a sign from DM)...Khushi fixed her dupaata and walked off...Arnav got angry and took off his jacket and threw it (i think he took of his jacket out of anger but one of my friend claims that he was feeling hot...i doubt it) He walks off to where khushi went...they both grabed the cups at the same time and both felt each other hands and withdrew it...Khushi was waiting for him to offer the water first but he did not...he grabed the cup and started getting water...Khushi was shocked...khushi must have been thinking um ladies first...to make it worse instead of offering her the water first, he just drinks it...this makes her more shocked...After he finished drinking the water he fills the cup again and offers it to khushi...Khushi at this point was mad and said i don't want it...Khushi makes him angrier and he throws the water on the ground. Arnav said he will break everything until he listens to him. Khushi said she will listen to him if he breaks the door...he breaks the door (he looks maha sexy) and khushi grabs her stuff and quickly tries to leave...before leaving she said you don't want to see my face right...you should be happy because i am going to lucknow forever (khushi said this out of impulse...she had no plans of leaving...she is just fed up with him and does not want to deal with him anymore because he robbed all her peace) Arnav hears this and calls out her name...he makes a face like i lost something important...Khushi goes home and told payal her decison and why she took it...payal understands and bua ji hears that they are leaving and gets sad...here you can tell she really cares for payal and khushi and how much she will miss them.. i think this scene you can how much she loves khushi...i still feel she cares for khushi more than payal but she can't show it. Arnav comes home all angry and starts flinging his clothes off (okay just his waist coat and tie...i noticed when he is angry he likes to take off his clothes...but he has never been no angry to throw off his show, salman khan style...my besharam bit is done) and keeps thinking about what khushi said...At night they show khushi talking to devi maiya even though khushi is happy to go home but some where deep inside she is not happy but she does not know why...Arnav is shown sleeping thinking about khushi leaving...she wakes up screaming khushi...these two are not ready to leave each other alone...they already made a place in each other's heart since day one.

As for shyam, the whole family know that a live in relationship is wrong and are not really accepting it...they only reason that they are is because shyam said it is a good idea to keep arnav with them ( i bet he knows that if arnav leaves...his money is gone) Since shyam said do it for arnav, they agree for the live in...He can convince them to do the wrong thing with his convincing words

BTW i read everyone's analysis!!! but i don't have time to comment :(
Posted: 12 years ago
Hi everyone! My apologies for being a silent reader and so behind in everything! My youngest has a cold/asthma! I'm sick with a cold myself trying to recover! Will try to catch up! Miss you all! 🤗
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cynthia,
italian american? you obviously have got the hindi nuances so well, i would have never guessed from your updates you weren't hindi knowing if not speaking.

yes, he is your laad gov, 35 years, wonderful. mine i've known 30 odd years and been married to for 27 of those.

i've always been a bit nutty about love, and iss pyaar ko felt and understood this feeling so well, i was hooked. never been chained to a serial before, in any language. this minute to minute understanding of a feeling and the faith that it is indeed beyond comprehension but brings a sense of eternity to our transient lives, ufff i am sold on this pyaar. this exists. no one can convince me otherwise.

the writing and the two actors came together unbelievably to create a story i couldn't turn away from. in the process i discovered one of the finest actors i've ever seen, that too on a daily soap. barun sobti. have to say, sanaya irani is a better actor in my estimate than most of our movie actresses.

somewhere behind, i've written my feelings on when khushi felt attracted, su had asked if it was at the point you mention, when he hugs la. yes, it crystallised crazily at that point, but i think it started before. and even at that point she didn't clearly identify the feeling, but her insides knew. as happens with such things. ohhh this love thing, i tell ya.

read and write when you can. it's been fantastic hanging out in thsi diverse colourful thread.

and all the best with your lg on this visit.

see ya 🤗




I probably was an Indian in my past life. I seem to understand the nuances without even knowing why and feel very comfortable with the culture! Past lives go figure.
I As far as the attraction of Kushi and Arnav I believe it started very early, I just believe she didn't realize it until the hug. She was definitely annoyed/ jealous at mandir during Teej you can just see it on her face and all that eye contact, come on!!!
I agree with you Sobti and Irani are brilliant actors. I also think she does not get enough credit for her talent. Be well and can't wait to read!
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