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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Angels11

Bang On Rima.

I ve had many difference of opinions with u. I remember our v 1st encounter which was a bitter slug fest. Soon v coexisted peacefully though v ve had verbal battles. I am an ASR fan & u r a KKG fan who also likes ASR in his saner avatar. We had a live & let live policy.

I never supported any of the prev petitions coz frankly any PH/creatives who can b arm twisted into changing their plot/story dont deserve any respect since they basically dont trust their creative capabilities. I feel constant clamour for change in the tracks confused the CVs into dishing out crap, OTT tracks. But having said that it was my personal stand & i never supported nor bashed the ppl who made/signed the petitions. Ppl ve the right to make/submit petitions. Its up to the PH/creatives/channel to act on it.

I dint like the changes made to the track based on demands of the fans. But i dint abuse the fans. Instead i simply used the remote & switched channels.

Same here as well. If ppl dint want the show 2 end they c'd ve very well made another petition asking the PH/channel 2 continue the show. First they choose 2 b passive & now they pounce on the fans abusing them.

I ve already posted my response to 1 such thread bashing ppl. Even i was bashed & they used phrases like Bite my ass, selfish, insensitive, ignorant, Ms Reality blah blah blah. I simply replied in a polite manner & asked them 2 go take a hike.

Just copy pasting the last part of my post:

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Taking the moral high ground must b backed with solid action. Have seen lots of ppl who weep when they watch the plight of refugees in war torn Africa or women who ve been raped or abused here in India. But at the end of the day after all the preaching & lectures are done what ve these so called sensitive ppl done to help those victims. Ppl here r calling me insensitive coz i said i dont care bt these 200 ppl. Now what did ppl like you who apparently care for these 200 ppl do to help them. So actions speak better than words. Just writing few lines claiming 2 sympathize with those ppl doesnt take us anywhere. Thats wat US presidents do after every bombing in some hapless III world country. I choose 2 b insensitive rather than preach loads & loads to ppl & then at the end of the day carry on with my life. Ppl who really make a difference dont speak or sympathize. They prove thru their actions. Like Theresa or Aung San Suu Kyi or the girl in Pakistan who was shot by the extremists. I prefer to b insensitive & do my work rather than preach & do nothing!

At the end of the day u & i may disagree. All i ask is disagree respectfully w/o swearing or abusing.

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Dont worry. Ppl ll always ve something 2 complain but rarely do they do anything to help others. Just shrug ur shoulders & ignore the bashing!

Bravo. You said exactly what I was feeling. I too had never been a fan of petitions etc. But now the whole outcry for the program to close down being blamed on the petitions is quite lame.
P.S: I guess I remmeber the thread you are talking about. I am also an ASR fan so was there on that thread of yours😃
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Yash141


Did u even read my post before commenting dear? Read the first post that u quoted. I have clearly stated it. Even I don't think that SP would play puppet puppet to a tune played by 1700 fans. And I don't represent anyone. I'm an individual who's stating my opinion. As an individual I was against every petition which was sent to change the show. Coz it's like interfering in someone else's life, to me. How would I feel if some one comes and tells me I hate your voice..but I love the music..so change your voice, lyrics... It's my song for God's sake. People can choose not to listen to it if they don't want but simply cannot demand me to change my voice quality, the way I sing or change the lyrics MY song or demand me to stop singing just because they paid to buy the radio, i pod, internet connection...bla bla. That is exactly what I think people are doing when demanding PH to change their story line. And I DO NOT agree. It's unethical and very wrong. And I don't think SP is a 5 year old bachcha to end their show only because some people wanted it to. But I dnt deny that it may have contributed. The simple fact is the ones who represented this should stand by their opinion.


she never backout.. and one thing in india if our PM do anything wrong we say things referring CONGRESS and not alone Mr PM..

i don't know you know about satyam scam or not.. but we entirely blame SATYAM and not the auditor or the owner..

darling i only know is if you have to blame then blame everyone and not rima di alone..

its a request..
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: rima


There are people who don't go on demanding script changes, retaining actors and closing down the show Shruti. There are people who are satisfied with what they see on tv because for them it's purely entertainment and recreation. And when the petition was signed there were people who were against that, I saw the comments. But this request went down as 'what the fans want'.

When a certain person represents a group of people, he/she should be ready to face the consequences. Like, if Rima's petition gets a response from SP or PH, they would send it to her and not to all the people who signed it. She, is the one who is supposed to pass down the message to you. Likewise, if certain people are against the petition they tell that to Rima. Not to the whole bunch.

I'm not saying that Rima committed a crime or something. It's what she and as you say a group of fans wanted. But then, please stand by your opinion. If u have the right to send petitions to a well-established tv channel and a PH...blaming, demanding and forcing for script changes, closing down the show...etc etc you have to have the courage to face the same from another group of fans.

I can do without lectures on courage
If I did not have it I wud have not taken on asr bashers for khushi
or wrath of fans for changes
I do what I believe in
unlike you and many others who just question others
and do not translate it into action
but are quick to give judgements

See? Now you call it a lecture. You can't tell others not to be harsh when u yourself is harsh at people who are just pointing out facts. And you did not answer to my initial question of whether you accept that u wanted the show to end. That's what you did in the petition too. You simply ignored the different povs. And I'm not giving you or anyone else the credit of having influence over a mega tv channel. The people who are celebrating thinking that it's their victory are just day dreaming. And by that I didn't mean u, before u take it all wrong again. Read your thread and see how many of your friends have misunderstood and harshly attacked the members who expressed their views politely. I'm honest and I stand by what I say. Petitioning against a creation (if it does not cross the moral limits) is ethically wrong. It's like trying to manipulate other people's property. I have stated this before in one of your earlier petitions which u simply ignored. And this is not attacking. It's my opinion. I'm stating it.

By the way, I don't think anyone would understand anything in this heat. After months or years, we'l turn back and laugh at ourselves when real challenges in life comes our way. Hope everyone learns something. I, for one, learnt never to get attached to a tv show and not let a tv channel control my life! That's it..
Edited by Yash141 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Shruti21


she never backout.. and one thing in india if our PM do anything wrong we say things referring CONGRESS and not alone Mr PM..

i don't know you know about satyam scam or not.. but we entirely blame SATYAM and not the auditor or the owner..

darling i only know is if you have to blame then blame everyone and not rima di alone..

its a request..

she said so much about me standing for things
whereas she never stood for anything
not even to stop petitions or say she wants show to go on
coming and commenting on a post is far easier you see
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Yash141

I can do without lectures on courage

If I did not have it I wud have not taken on asr bashers for khushi
or wrath of fans for changes
I do what I believe in
unlike you and many others who just question others
and do not translate it into action
but are quick to give judgements


See? Now you call it a lecture. You can't tell others not to be harsh when u yourself is harsh at people who are just pointing out facts. And you did not answer to my initial question of whether you accept that u wanted the show to end. That's what you did in the petition too. You simply ignored the different povs. And I'm not giving you or anyone else the credit of having influence over a mega tv channel. The people who are celebrating thinking that it's their victory are just day dreaming. And by that I didn't mean u, before u take it all wrong again. Read your thread and see how many of your friends have misunderstood and harshly attacked the members who expressed their views politely. I'm honest and I stand by what I say. Petitioning against a creation (if it does not cross the moral limits) is ethically wrong. It's like trying to manipulate other people's property. I have stated this before in one of your earlier petitions which u simply ignored. And this is not attacking. It's my opinion. I'm stating it.
am I harsh
read the llinks I have posted
that will tell you what harsh is
and will tell you why in all my 18 months in this forum
II am harsh today
because being nice is costing me
and it is pay back tiime
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Yash141

I can do without lectures on courage

If I did not have it I wud have not taken on asr bashers for khushi
or wrath of fans for changes
I do what I believe in
unlike you and many others who just question others
and do not translate it into action
but are quick to give judgements


See? Now you call it a lecture. You can't tell others not to be harsh when u yourself is harsh at people who are just pointing out facts. And you did not answer to my initial question of whether you accept that u wanted the show to end. That's what you did in the petition too. You simply ignored the different povs. And I'm not giving you or anyone else the credit of having influence over a mega tv channel. The people who are celebrating thinking that it's their victory are just day dreaming. And by that I didn't mean u, before u take it all wrong again. Read your thread and see how many of your friends have misunderstood and harshly attacked the members who expressed their views politely. I'm honest and I stand by what I say. Petitioning against a creation (if it does not cross the moral limits) is ethically wrong. It's like trying to manipulate other people's property. I have stated this before in one of your earlier petitions which u simply ignored. And this is not attacking. It's my opinion. I'm stating it.



We appreciate your opinion. But what is wrong in Rima or anyone else starting a petition on a public program? You imposing your standards on others is what is unethical. That is just my opinion.
Edited by kkksr - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: -SmileAway-



I respect that, however,

stating and demanding for things to go your way - two very different things.

so they demanded
what stopped you
ok you dont believe in it
but i dont believe that out of the mass crying foul now
not a single person could raise a voice


I don't think it's the question of whether you raised a voice or not - it's the question of how many people viewed it just for entertainment purposes.

For me, and for many others, it was an entertaining show with a lot of promises. We wanted to see the story the PH wanted to show us rather than the one the fans wanted, because then everyone's fan fiction would be a TV serial.

However for you, and maybe a few others, it was more than just an entertainment show. You probably took it a lot more seriously, and therefore petitioned for it, etc.

However as a result of your seriousness and attachment (even though we were attached too), we had to suffer as the demands of your petitions were met.

So it wasn't a matter of why we didn't raise a voice, because even if it was going absolutely crap, I'd still not make a petition, rather I'd switch the channel as most viewers should do if Sobti was leaving. Mostly because, to me this was my way of de-stressing after a hard day's work, this was my way of dreaming the romance existed.

Now that's been taken away.

Are you for serious?
YOU didn't raise your voice because you didn't believe in doing something so, 'lame' as entertainment. And you say you aren't THAT attached to the show.

So, what's wrong right NOW? Why blaming others who took a stand for something they believed in? Upset your source of entertainment has been taken away? Switch the channel. You were not much bothered anyway! Must not be much of a difficulty.

And you think those 1700 something people triggered all this? We believed in petition but we also knew how much it can succeed. Petitions and demands are not simply met because some 2000 fans had asked for it...it is met IF and only IF the channel or producer deem it FIT to be met.

And you think ALL those 1700 something people used to call SP ? Really? Wow.
It were only some 200 approximately who used to call them up. VERY few people.

Had the channel or the PH NOT been prepared for a shutdown, they would have given in and given us the demands like -"ending the story of Arnav and Khushi on a happy note...but continue the show with a generation gap or something".

Hah. You think our demands were met from that petition? LOL.





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Posted: 12 years ago
Hats off to you rima, whenever you make post defending kk/si the so called C.C. people support you and when you change ur side according to their pov they are backfiring u.

I m with u.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: rima

she said so much about me standing for things

whereas she never stood for anything
not even to stop petitions or say she wants show to go on
coming and commenting on a post is far easier you see


haha :D has this forum ever let the minority stand by their opinion...? This is what they get.. And then you say..why didn't u do anything. I don't sign petitions. So me not signing your petition or signing any petition seems like doing nothing for you? FYI, I peacefully watched the show. That's what I did.

Nevertheless, I don't think anyone would understand anything in this heat. After months or years, we'l turn back and laugh at ourselves when real challenges in life comes our way. Hope everyone learns something. I, for one, learnt never to get attached to a tv show and not let a tv channel control my life! That's it..
Edited by Yash141 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: whatthe123

Hats off to you rima, whenever you make post defending kk/si the so called C.C. people support you and when you change ur side according to their pov they are backfiring u.

I m with u.

thank you so much

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