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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: kushikumari

agree with you about the remarriage. what made it eventually work for me was their awareness of each other, and the constant need to be with one another. yes, the haldi, and the mehendi episodes were beautiful! but, but, but kushi had to ruin the SR with 'pheres'! felt so letdown when they took that route... their love didn't need the remarriage!

on the other hand, the CVs should have focused on kushi and shown her growth and maturity after the kidnapping track. they didn't, instead they showed her running off to GH, doing silly stuff, lying, and avoiding any conversations. then the birthday... want to erase it from my memory... we never got to see a thinking kushi... she continued to be the same... so how could we expect her to want anything other than a proper marriage? how could we expect her to look deeply into her marriage and feel grateful and humbled by the love that defined it? some how i have never been able to understand the 'oh i know you love me' attitude of kushi, that literally just stops there. to me, such awareness automatically comes with an equal, if not more giving, loving, touching, seeking out...! when i look back at the episodes, i wish the CVs had taken the arshi relationship to the next level post kidnapping. so, so, so wanted to see a mature kushi (with all her impishness still intact). it would have been a treat to watch sanaya emote the various feelings associated with new found love. sigh! instead we had to settle for ott.

and then, as you say, a lot of un-ipk stuff followed... while we were happy enough with the little moments, and a sentence or a look from asr, somehow of late, am left with the feeling that its more one-sided... don't see a kushi reciprocating, be it a word, a glance, a look, or an action. disappointing. why is the magic gone after the remarriage?


hi kk,

even while our show is being hacked to death, we think, we ponder and wonder. that speaks of the power of it so poignantly.

a thing of beauty...

you know when khushi ran off to gh after kidnap, i loved many things. why it never made sense i feel is because she never said how upset she was about him bringing up the contract again the night they fought. when speaking to dm, if she had said that instead of saying how she understands all and doesn't really feel bad, everything would work.

and once you accept remarriage as a valid thing, things is bound to go a bit haywire. you are right, a peculiar lack of intimacy post remarriage. oodles of it when they hated each others guts, stayed away from each other during kidnap, fell for each other, but once the socially valid marriage happened, all off. ha ha looks like marriage ain't a good thing for mohabbat.

i will never forget the look on asr's face when she rejected him on that flower bedecked bed. i identified with the man completely and thought the character called khushi had completely lost it. five minutes before that she called herself his patni. then she saw radha krishna the eternal lovers who never married each other, and decided this was wrong. where's thought logic feeling in this.

bad bad writing.

ah well. now all i fret about is the fact that i haven't downloaded anything, so have to depend on whatever is available on yt and dailymotion for my reveries with ipk.

i will miss my boy so so much. his weird smile, the glint in his eyes, his sheer sexiness. and all that love.
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Posted: 12 years ago
I'm mostly a silent reader, so first I want to thank you and all the folks out there whose messages I've read and who've indirectly helped me get through a particularly rough year.

This is mostly nostalgia about IPK ( some fav scenes in purple below) -- which to me is synonymous with ASR and KHUSHI (SOBTI and IRANI). Sorry it's so long and some of it may notmake much sense since it's late at night and I'm in a little bit of physical pain (not much just a little).

For me IPK was an unraveling of sorts. That's the best way I can describe it. People speak about evolving as we grow older (and supposedly wiser), but it had quite a different, maybe even opposite effect on me. Like I was slowly getting undone -- and by the end of it all, I was that 16 year old again who believed in things like "soul-mate" (the forever kind and not the Jimmy Choo kind), "destiny" and "heart's desire".
Then therewere scenes that started out like they were innocuous enough, then suddenly they were like, "hey, you remember emotions? No? O.K. Let me remind you." Then it would start, I could literally, physically feel it -- a flutter that started from the tip of my toe, took a brief pause in my heart and drizzled in release from my eyes-- exactly as Arnav described it -- pehle per, phir hath, phir kande, phir sir. LOL. "Heart molecule-shift", as I like it to call it.

I can compare it (IPK) to another moment in my life that happened a couple of years ago, when I was so deeply concerned about concentrating on my career.
I had been working in a lab for about 8 months or so and I use to stay late at work until about 10:30 pm or so. There was a guy in the lab who I had become good friends with. It was just another day when I was staying late, on this day, however, this friend of mine said, "it's late, and I'm going to stay with you". I had an epiphany that day, that I was a girl and it felt good. No shame, no pride, no feminism, just a feeling of being liked enough.
That to me is analogous to IPK. A reminder of something obvious yet elusive, raw but beautiful, that lives somewhere within -- pit of your stomach, center of your heart, I don't know, but somewhere well hidden.


It was maybe even bigger than that though I think for all of us. There were so many layers. Some, I think the writers didn't even intend, but we saw none the less. LOL
Yes, there was the amazing chemistry and the intense raw passion, but some of my favorite scenes some wouldn't even consider romantic in the traditional sense.

Scenes that turned everyday emotions that into portraits of pathos -- she had chickpea powder on her face, he laughed, and we were tender.

Another fav, he comes back for his woman, hugs her, we want him to hold the other-woman. Possessiveness by proxy. O.k. true we want to be hugged immediately-after, dammit!

Then there are other episodes that I refer to as IPK -- SUFI-IZED. You know the ones where you feel a reference to "somethingmore". For example, the one where Arnav is kidnapped and is tied to a chair when he suddenly sees his "Khushi". He immediately reaches out for her, but can't reach her because his hands are tied. You kneel in front of the t.v (o.k really you turn your face at an angle where others can't see your tears for a fictional tv character) and scream ... "oh god ASR, if you had only listened to your heart earlier!" Then you think, how apropros for life because isn't it true that we are our own worst enemies (our pride, our desires, our delusions) and we get ourselves into situations that keep us from our
own true happiness, our "khushi". Shyam was just a mere distraction who had never really caused real harm in their lives up to thatpoint.

O.K. this is getting to long. Last but not least, mention of one of my ALL-TIME favorite scenes. It really all happens in the blink of an eye, so if you are not paying close attention you will miss it. I'm sure everyone in this forum has caught it though. The dhaba scene on October 12, 2011 -- yes I'm just as sick as all of you, I remember the date. This one starts approximately when Arnav is sitting angry that Khushi was able to convince the men there to hold him back. Then the dancing starts and Khushi gets pulled into the crowd. Arnav sees this whole thing happening and the transition in his expressions from when Khushi first gets pulled in to when she is fully engaged in classic Khushi moves -- pure subtle brilliance. Watching the transition from Arnav's expression of curiosity, to the glint
in the eye to that faint warm smirk -- BLISS.


O.K. I lied, last few words on SOBTI's acting since the title suggests this is mainly about him. I'm not convinced that someone can be that perfect. I mean there has to be some of sort of luck involved here, right? How else can we explain things like, the right modulation down to each syllable, how does he know the exact moment to blink an eye (and for how
long), and how exactly does he know when we need to see his adam's apple? You know when he's killer, when he uses all of those to his advantage at the same time. Proof -- the 10 seconds before during and after the "aur main" in the episode where khushi is about to leave him for the gupta house and he reminds her of the contract.


Last one, promise. The eye-lock before Arnav helps khushi set up lunch before the payash wedding. You think, if someone ever loves me, that's how he'll look at me and I'll know it too.

I guess ASR was right about one thing for sure, "tum woh har kam nahi kar sakti, jo main kar sakta hoon". We know ASR. We know. There will be no other.

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Firefly

I'm mostly a silent reader, so first I want to thank you and all the folks out there whose messages I've read and who've indirectly helped me get through a particularly rough year.

This is mostly nostalgia about IPK ( some fav scenes in purple below) -- which to me is synonymous with ASR and KHUSHI (SOBTI and IRANI). Sorry it's so long and some of it may notmake much sense since it's late at night and I'm in a little bit of physical pain (not much just a little).

For me IPK was an unraveling of sorts. That's the best way I can describe it. People speak about evolving as we grow older (and supposedly wiser), but it had quite a different, maybe even opposite effect on me. Like I was slowly getting undone -- and by the end of it all, I was that 16 year old again who believed in things like "soul-mate" (the forever kind and not the Jimmy Choo kind), "destiny" and "heart's desire".
Then therewere scenes that started out like they were innocuous enough, then suddenly they were like, "hey, you remember emotions? No? O.K. Let me remind you." Then it would start, I could literally, physically feel it -- a flutter that started from the tip of my toe, took a brief pause in my heart and drizzled in release from my eyes-- exactly as Arnav described it -- pehle per, phir hath, phir kande, phir sir. LOL. "Heart molecule-shift", as I like it to call it.

I can compare it (IPK) to another moment in my life that happened a couple of years ago, when I was so deeply concerned about concentrating on my career.
I had been working in a lab for about 8 months or so and I use to stay late at work until about 10:30 pm or so. There was a guy in the lab who I had become good friends with. It was just another day when I was staying late, on this day, however, this friend of mine said, "it's late, and I'm going to stay with you". I had an epiphany that day, that I was a girl and it felt good. No shame, no pride, no feminism, just a feeling of being liked enough.
That to me is analogous to IPK. A reminder of something obvious yet elusive, raw but beautiful, that lives somewhere within -- pit of your stomach, center of your heart, I don't know, but somewhere well hidden.


It was maybe even bigger than that though I think for all of us. There were so many layers. Some, I think the writers didn't even intend, but we saw none the less. LOL
Yes, there was the amazing chemistry and the intense raw passion, but some of my favorite scenes some wouldn't even consider romantic in the traditional sense.

Scenes that turned everyday emotions that into portraits of pathos -- she had chickpea powder on her face, he laughed, and we were tender.

Another fav, he comes back for his woman, hugs her, we want him to hold the other-woman. Possessiveness by proxy. O.k. true we want to be hugged immediately-after, dammit!

Then there are other episodes that I refer to as IPK -- SUFI-IZED. You know the ones where you feel a reference to "somethingmore". For example, the one where Arnav is kidnapped and is tied to a chair when he suddenly sees his "Khushi". He immediately reaches out for her, but can't reach her because his hands are tied. You kneel in front of the t.v (o.k really you turn your face at an angle where others can't see your tears for a fictional tv character) and scream ... "oh god ASR, if you had only listened to your heart earlier!" Then you think, how apropros for life because isn't it true that we are our own worst enemies (our pride, our desires, our delusions) and we get ourselves into situations that keep us from our
own true happiness, our "khushi". Shyam was just a mere distraction who had never really caused real harm in their lives up to thatpoint.

O.K. this is getting to long. Last but not least, mention of one of my ALL-TIME favorite scenes. It really all happens in the blink of an eye, so if you are not paying close attention you will miss it. I'm sure everyone in this forum has caught it though. The dhaba scene on October 12, 2011 -- yes I'm just as sick as all of you, I remember the date. This one starts approximately when Arnav is sitting angry that Khushi was able to convince the men there to hold him back. Then the dancing starts and Khushi gets pulled into the crowd. Arnav sees this whole thing happening and the transition in his expressions from when Khushi first gets pulled in to when she is fully engaged in classic Khushi moves -- pure subtle brilliance. Watching the transition from Arnav's expression of curiosity, to the glint
in the eye to that faint warm smirk -- BLISS.


O.K. I lied, last few words on SOBTI's acting since the title suggests this is mainly about him. I'm not convinced that someone can be that perfect. I mean there has to be some of sort of luck involved here, right? How else can we explain things like, the right modulation down to each syllable, how does he know the exact moment to blink an eye (and for how
long), and how exactly does he know when we need to see his adam's apple? You know when he's killer, when he uses all of those to his advantage at the same time. Proof -- the 10 seconds before during and after the "aur main" in the episode where khushi is about to leave him for the gupta house and he reminds her of the contract.


Last one, promise. The eye-lock before Arnav helps khushi set up lunch before the payash wedding. You think, if someone ever loves me, that's how he'll look at me and I'll know it too.

I guess ASR was right about one thing for sure, "tum woh har kam nahi kar sakti, jo main kar sakta hoon". We know ASR. We know. There will be no other.

👏👏 There can be no other ASR than one you described... They will get many angry young men in future but it is rare phenomenon where an angry young man is having that child like innocence, that honesty and purest of emotions...he is hard and rude...still your heart reaches out to him...for his every wrong action..you start finding excuses as you fail to believe that this innocence on face and eyes can do anything wrong...
he was rare... indeed
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Posted: 12 years ago
firefly,

so good you broke your silence. beautiful meander through your thoughts on what happened to us as we watched ipk.

i am 52, and i felt my feelings at 15, 16, and even before when i first started to believe in that forever thing. i never really "grew up" enough to grow out of it, but the everyday had pulled a quiet pall over the feelings i guess. they lay deep within, still cherished but set aside in a corner.

till a man with storm in his eyes looked angry yet mesmerised at a girl.

i have felt exactly as you that asr and khushi, barun and sanaya, have reawakened in me thoughts and emotions essential.

just hanging around them makes me feel alive and in love.

and barun. well, he's only just begun. i am waiting to see next.

perfect, the way you describe the heart molecule shift. from tingle in toe to sting of tear behind eye, felt it again and again. nowadays the sting more though.

the "sufi" somewhereelseness, lovely. that telepathic conversation for me was real, actually if you are connected, this happens. only barun and sanaya could have had it. and the scene you speak of, i feel like turning my cheek into her palm the way he seems to.

i never felt he was acting asr. he was asr in those moments. otherwise how could we have all those things we did, the ones we know no writer could have written.

not being said yet, some day will be acknowledged, asr was one of the finest performances by any actor ever in our land, tv, movie, or theatre. i personally have never seen such a performance over so many months before. it happened on a low brow thing like a daily soap on a hindi gec, but a thing it was of beauty.

thank you for opening up and sharing so much. we get each other, especially when we sound nutty. thanks to you know who.

must go see those scenes again. 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
Indi di... A great post, sweet and nostalgic!

My journey with Barun started with the promos of BHPH... Frm then on he has been my 'star'... My 'favrit actor' frm all arena. Though i had seen him in Shraddha, BHPH gave me Barun... The love that he got frm that show and forum can never be matchd..

I was always into cricket and there was a time when even that didnt help me to get out of some personal problems.. It was Barun, shravan and BHPH, that lightend up my days, then.

Thats why i followd him to Ipk and the rest is history... I'm Only a Barun Fan. I lovd Only ASR in the show. N thats why remained in this torturing forum...till now. I knw Barun has had enough and thats why I'm Happy to see him escape, even at the cost of him being targettd cruelly. The day he moves out, its 'alvida' to the forum from me too. There is no other reason why i watch Ipk. Its Barun...
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Posted: 12 years ago

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Indi di... A great post, sweet and nostalgic!

My journey with Barun started with the promos of BHPH... Frm then on he has been my 'star'... My 'favrit actor' frm all arena. Though i had seen him in Shraddha, BHPH gave me Barun... The love that he got frm that show and forum can never be matchd..

I was always into cricket and there was a time when even that didnt help me to get out of some personal problems.. It was Barun, shravan and BHPH, that lightend up my days, then.

Thats why i followd him to Ipk and the rest is history... I'm Only a Barun Fan. I lovd Only ASR in the show. N thats why remained in this torturing forum...till now. I knw Barun has had enough and thats why I'm Happy to see him escape, even at the cost of him being targettd cruelly. The day he moves out, its 'alvida' to the forum from me too. There is no other reason why i watch Ipk. Its Barun...



thanks, jachu,

lovely post. i know what you mean about barun escaping this madness. sometimes i just think of jonathan livingstone seagull when i think of him. the seagull who finally learnt to fly. i feel like telling him to go, fly, feel all that open sky, the freedom, take it in. i so feel his need to just be.

i too will leave the day he does. it was really barun that kept me rapt. yes i love the rest if the cast too, esp nani and mamiji, i think karan is an interesting actor and sanaya is perhaps better than any actress i see on the hindi screen too, specially her intelligent and instinctive handling of comedy, not many women actors have that in our country.

but i asked my self once, would i be here if barun is not. no, said i.

what about sanaya, if she goes? i'd still give it a shot, because barun would be here. and i would want to see what he'd make of the new situation.

barun has that quality that makes one a star, and he is a fine fine actor. plus my dil and dimaag both click with the boy.

jachu, you, riti, gandhari, zoha, shy, sunny, priya, beena, mou, farha, rashmi, dips, anjali, suvi, i, we are all unabashed barun phangurrls. 😳
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Posted: 12 years ago
hey, kk,

will pm you if i should write anything of course. but for me too, the day barun goes i go. 😉
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