Barun An actor-A debate (MODs close the topic) - Page 12

Originally posted by: Rockerchic

BINGO!

The disclaimer was more of a gag😆

Originally posted by: napstermonster

First things first--welcome, Rockerchic! A funny woman AND a good writer...great addition indeed!

Thank you!

Secondly, I'm going to make some unwarranted assumptions here and go out on a limb and guess that you don't watch too many Hindi serials. If you did, you would know the pieces of wood, the man-sized rocks that currently occupy screen space along with their respective long suffering spouses on most other Star Plus and Zee shows.

You are right I have certainly not watched some of the acting which would put a perfectly nice and rigid block of wood to shame.

Had you watched any of the following: When the hero on another serial greets the news of his wife's pregnancy, and, in another scene, his wife's imminent death with the EXACT SAME expression...or when there is an unattractive dough-boy with no neck and the world's most idiotic smile matching his ridiculously juvenile nickname, or when you have a man who's response after three years of being self righteously preached at by his wife every single damn day is to beat the shit out of everyone he sees, you will understand.

No, I am not attuned to the wonders of Indian television. Although now i'm considerably forewarned. 😆

You will understand why nuanced acting, in any TINY portion--whether its the sizzling chemistry of Barun and Sanaya, or the fact the man does hate, as you observed, better than anyone else on TV...you'll understand why the fan gurls squeal and get their panties in a bunch over Sobti.

Sobti does have the natural tendency to bring out my inner 14 year old- giggly and sugar high.😊

He is by no means the best out there. There are veteran actors who yawn more convincingly and with greater acting skill than Sobti displays in some of his sappier love scenes. But given the TV landscape--yeah..he is the best there is on television right now. I agree that there have been moments when I have cringed...but then there was the scene where he chases the ambulance, and realizes he may have lost Khushi..or the incredible Diwali party scene-not the poolside kiss, but the buildup before, where he had to portray attraction and obsession and love and desire without one word of dialogue--all of those carry me through the overly cutesy ASR to Arnav transitions of late.

Amen sister! The guy can speak with his eyes alone. That is raw talent.

And finally, quite frankly, the man is smokin, which goes a long way towards ignoring an occasionally squeaky delivery! in terms of everything that is expected of him, where he does deliver consistently, enough to get me, a cynical viewer who hates Indian soaps to tune in for over a year now--his looks, and physical screen presence, style and his excellent line in menacing flirting--- I think I can accept some off days..

Well said!

Originally posted by: Rockerchic

Standard Disclaimer-I love Barun. I love Barun.I love Barun.I love Barun. He is on my computer wallpaper. He is on my phone wallpaper. His BG is my ringtone. His name is doodled on every scrap paper in my house.

Warnings- Stong critisism ahead.

I have noticed that Barun is treated is nothing short of a God/Supernatural on this forum. I admit I've speant an unhealthy amount of time drooling over this guy and his killer looks.

But then I saw a post(s) where people of this forum said that Barun was better than the likes of established Bollywood actors. Actors who have been the industry for 2 decades. Now I mean this in the least offensive way - haaahhhaaa lol. Sorry but that was true and instant response.

Barun's dialogue delivery is passable on his best day and his expressions are almost stone like in some scenes. As a student of the theater arts I cringe when he speaks sometimes.

Ofcourse BS has his better days as well. In scenes like when he tells Khushi doesn't have a character , the hate is actually palpable. Even the I hate you scene was good. BS seems to do hate/anger really well. The other things he does really well is flirting. His eyes seem to flirt and it gets us all high and giggling.

But other emotions- not so great.

Which got me thinking, is that why so many of us complain that when Arnav becomes lovey-dovey he is OTT? Is that why Arnav in love is cringe worthy? In that hug scene during kidnap-hug I was closing my eyes.

No one can do ASR better than BS. But that doesn't mean BS is the greatest actor out there as many make him out to be. Or perhaps he is to some of you here.

So do share your views and let's debate. All views are welcome fangirl/haters/critisism.

Rockerchic




PS- I will reply at the end of the debate and address al the diffrent points you lovely people brought up. This is because I am not allowed to post more than 10 a day.

PPS- Remember every time you hate on my dear Sallu, a unicorn dies in Never Land. Just Saying.

Hey There!

I adore Barun...May be he is not the best actor in the world but as far as I have seen he does far better job than his contemporaries ... IPK is the only show that I watch regularly, but I have tried few other shows but none of the actors impressed me
It's true that I had problem in understanding his dialogues initially but I got used it now(or may be he improved )
That said, yep everyday cannot be his best that too when they work for 28-30 days in a month...

And comparing with bolly actors, sorry to say but I find him far better than many other star kids who survive in the industry due to their surname... Barun and SI both r capable of giving most of the actors a run for their money

Originally posted by: enigma17

Read your post and finally am here to deliver my two pennies worth

First of all congratulations on such a brave or a rather foolhardy

I opt for the former. Bravery and truth on this Forum can be challenged by the youthful diehard fans when it comes to any'negativity' as far as BS is concerned

This being my first Indian drama serial I have nothing else to make comparisons with. Neither speaking the language nor understanding it has me at a disadvantage as I am dependant on subtitles or the benevolence of my kind friends.

Never has a drama serial enticed and induced me and kept me going inspite and despite its turbulent journeys of the good, bad and indifferent

Key to this for me has definitely been the two lead actors, BS and SI.

The tangible chemistry, their intractions , their role plays bouncing of each other and their delivery points has had me glued to my seat in eager anticipation awaiting the next episode and the next and the next

BS's acting skills up to a point are incredible. His emotes rather well, a tour de force, much to my delight, as I have found some of the BW actors rather OTT and extremely garrulous and loud

Our BS in his subtlety is mermerising. His facial expressions mirrroring a zillion emotions changing in nano seconds is very commendable and admirable. I am in all honesty as yet to come across any other male lead as good as BS in this department

Then we come to his oratory springboard. Mumbling is an artform? Well in that case Mr Sobti is way past the Masterclass of Mumbledom! Is he talking to himself? Has he forgotten his lines?He is seeking help from our enchanting SI? Plus he seems to get away with it

The production team have no say in this matter?

This is charming when someone is incoherent?

He lacks dancing skills. That has been seen I believe.Although one could easily overcome this debilatation with some coaching and training. Piece of cake ...one would hope

People skill is sadly lacking which I believe to be an important part of one's overall entrance and acceptance into BW. Charm in itself is not enough. Captivating your interviewer and your audience is an acquired skill and an artform in itself. One is a natural or one hast to adapt and learn these skills. Goofy voice holds no appeal as a matter fact its rather annoying

Pleasing your public and keeping them happy is a criteria to actor who wants to make it big time is as neccessary as breathing. SRK and AB come to mind. The public adore them and lets face it SRK is not all that in the acting department but he loves his fans. They forgive him his other discrepancies. The fans make or break and actor/actress.

As for BS' s comparison to BW actors , my vote is out I am afraid.

Potential is definitely there. With the right backing and exposure who knows where it can lead to.

An actor is only as good as his co-star. In this series the two leads make this entire show

Ying and yang. Romeo and Juliet. Katherine/ Kate and Petruchio.ASR and Khushi Kumari Gupta. Brought to the screen by their sizzling cohesiveness and chemistry, Sanya Irani and Barun Sobti

In short Barun Sobti is raw material. Unpolished , unvarnished and still rough around the edges. Buff him up and who knows ...the world's his oyster? Maybe

Time will tell

In the meantime the very best of luck Barun Sobti

Break a leg

Originally posted by: tangam

Annie...even at a dist we seem to echo...the arse is never far away...

Nice post! I love him too!! but i do agree with you. I always compare ASR with Maan Singh Khurana from GHSP for the simple reason that both characters are purposely very similar and for that reason compare BS and GC acting. I love them both equally hence why im crazy about both shows but in my opinion the reason we see discrepancies in Barun's acting is because he has played the arrogant ASR too well and for too long. GC's character was soften much earlier as he admitted his feelings for geet alot quicker and then acted on them much faster then ASR has thus GC was able to incorporate the lover boy persona with his angry young man character. ASR while inlove has always been ruthless to khushi and now this new side of him is shocking to say the least (while still really hot). I at first thought it might be because Barun can't do it but then i watched some clips of his old show BHP and he was amazing! super funny and romantic. I think it's ASR not Barun who is a li awkward with romance and funny scenes as we are not used to seeing him that way. But your right comparing him 2 bollywood actors is a lil too far. He is one of the best in his field though.

heyy rockerchic😊

ur post is not at all a bashing post coz u are entitled to ur opinion and this is what a forum is for!

but i dont agree completely with your POV. no actor is perfect and every actor has scope for improvement! he will definitely grow more as actor with experience! he is a good actor and excels in romantic/ passionate scenes-take last thursday's scene for instance!! i am not a barun sobti fan as such but enjoy him as arnav! ASR is a very complex guy and to understand his state of mind without any dialogues is made possible only coz of barun's portrayal! if u can connect with such a complex character then BS has won as an actor hands down!

we end up judging a TV actor's acting prowess coz lets accept it, he somewhere makes a difference! if u see TV is a medium where acting is given the least importance and also those so called trp toppers have some of the most non-actors out there! barun and sanaya have definitely set very high standards as far as TV is concerned!

also arnav's character is a very difficult one to play! while being part of a TV serial, an actor is bound to have his off-days! evryone from BS to SI or abhaas and daljeet have days with inconsistent performances! u can also blame it due to nature of the characters! arnav's character is very performance oriented but the nature of the character is such that mistakes can be easily caught- ASR's character doesnt give him much scope! we sometimes tend to ignore or miss those fine nuances he brings in his voice, eyes and body language-lets blame it lack of more dialogues! whereas khushi's character is sunny and sometimes loud hence mistakes may not be easily visible coz we tend to only enjoy when khushi is on the outing! also every actor has his comfort zone... be it an established actor or a newbie! sanaya is outstanding in emotional scenes and comedy, whereas barun is amazing in romance, passion and hatred/anger! he has to improve his dialogue delivery but i cannot say that about his expressions-he emotes very well and his eyes convey it all! u probably found certain scenes cringe-worthy coz maybe u are not used to indian TV and its actors much!!

and no! barun sobti is not god-like for this forum... but he is drooled upon by fangirls everyday coz that is what he is-totally droolworthy😆