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Posted: 13 years ago
#91
very well said...totally agree with u...khushi is equally guity for not sharing this with any of her so called family members...but then again we really can't expect much from SP stable as for some reasons they have been head-over-heals in love with the whole 'abala nari' concept for years...one who keeps quiet for the sake of her family (& many other such crappy reasons)...& finally after she has paid the prize for her prolonged silence, her family disowns her & morever turns on her with savage resentment...makes me wonder if this is what they refer to as 'nayee soch'!!!...don't know where this show is heading, but the way things r spanning out, i'm really about where khushi's present stance (regarding the whole shyam fiasco) will lead her to...sorry for the ranting..needed to get it out of system...
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Posted: 13 years ago
#92

Originally posted by: MentalExotica


Exactly this same point was raised when Arnav used his force on her, but was over shadowed because well they both are in love and all.🤢🤢

Now that we see Shyaam trying to be forceful we realize it's wrong?
Dearies it's always been wrong.
I never thought a day would come when i would quote Shyaam because he had a point -
"Kya sirf Arnav aapka haath zor se pakad sakta hai?"

and oh heavens worse follows when Khushi says

Woh mere pati hai?

All she had to say was NAHI koi bhi mera haath aise nahi pakad sakta.

Your husband has no authority to inflict pain on you physically and neither does anyone else.

If we accept Arnav shaking her up - in the name of the story demanding it
Then we very well need to accept Shyaam doing it - as a story progression and well Shyaam has a reason he is an obsessive man.
If we condemn it we need to CONDEMN BOTH.

For me i condemn both.

SJ thanks for bringing this up - cos i am pretty sure we have discussed this before and were shut down.

AND NAVIN - all the points in your post are spot on, thanks for re-enforcing them.


Hi Gitika and Smriti...
Never thought I'd need to contest some parts of your views here...
there are 2 aspects to this situation:
Hero misbehaving and Villian misbehaving. Here again depending on the relation with heroine, the definition of misbehavior changes!
Hero meaning someone for whom the heroine's heart goes mmm...😆
Well, this man is allowed more liberty ... If my husband holds my hand in public! Do I MIND? Hell No! I'd mind if he does not... some touch feels good some does not. Again my opinion entirely.
lovelorn look from hero=dhak dhak
Coming to Khushi... Can I venture to say that she enjoys Arnav's proximity. But I am sure his shaking her up, brutally holding her arms must be condemned by her and has been condemned by many of us including you both and myself... Ah the no of sarcastic and blunt posts we made on the issue and wasted reems of cyber stationery on it!!
Villian meaning someone the heroine loathes...🤢
This man has no liberty. he can't touch, hold her hand and even look at her.
lovelorn look from villain=leching
So if he does all the above 3 actions and heroine objects and he continues then the heroine must raise her voice, rattle authorities that be.
Coming to Khushi, she has never liked and accepted Shyam's touch. She infact loathed it from the begining. But voiced her thoughts much later. But once she voiced her thoughts, Shyam needed to stop and since he did not she must raise her voice and do more than she is currently doing.
But did Shyam really manhandle her to the extent Arnav did? NO. Its not even 10% of what Arnav does. But Khushi loathes his touch, so even his 10% is unacceptable to her.😡
@TM: About Khushi confiding in her sister Payal! Sigh! Not happening coz Payal kind of sibling is of no good. Payal might be more worried about her own reputation. today I am waiting for Mamiji to unleash her fury on Payal. I wouldn't do what she did to her family at Phansi dress caampateson! Its unpardonable. I wonder if that is also a wrong signal sent out! Whatever happened to 'Shrikrishna's Gita Updesh' When at war give your best performance no matter who the opponent is!
I disagree with the whole Raizada family supporting Payal
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Posted: 13 years ago
#93
I am so so so with you in this. And for those who say it is a work of fiction ... bare in mind that this show have a major impact on the viewwer and hence on perceptions and society. Some people specially youngster the line between reality and fiction is very much blurred so plz stop saying it is just fiction. I want to hugs you tight for having brought up this point which has been bugging me for long.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#94
I agree.

The first time she didnt tell anyone about Shyam. Ok that was understandable. She was giving him a chance to change his ways.

But now? He's just getting worse day by day. By now she should have told Arnav about Shyam.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: JShukla

Hi Gitika and Smriti...
Never thought I'd need to contest some parts of your views here...
there are 2 aspects to this situation:
Hero misbehaving and Villian misbehaving. Here again depending on the relation with heroine, the definition of misbehavior changes!
Hero meaning someone for whom the heroine's heart goes mmm...😆
Well, this man is allowed more liberty ... If my husband holds my hand in public! Do I MIND? Hell No! I'd mind if he does not... some touch feels good some does not. Again my opinion entirely.
lovelorn look from hero=dhak dhak
Coming to Khushi... Can I venture to say that she enjoys Arnav's proximity. But I am sure his shaking her up, brutally holding her arms must be condemned by her and has been condemned by many of us including you both and myself... Ah the no of sarcastic and blunt posts we made on the issue and wasted reems of cyber stationery on it!!
Villian meaning someone the heroine loathes...🤢
This man has no liberty. he can't touch, hold her hand and even look at her.
lovelorn look from villain=leching
So if he does all the above 3 actions and heroine objects and he continues then the heroine must raise her voice, rattle authorities that be.
Coming to Khushi, she has never liked and accepted Shyam's touch. She infact loathed it from the begining. But voiced her thoughts much later. But once she voiced her thoughts, Shyam needed to stop and since he did not she must raise her voice and do more than she is currently doing.
But did Shyam really manhandle her to the extent Arnav did? NO. Its not even 10% of what Arnav does. But Khushi loathes his touch, so even his 10% is unacceptable to her.😡



Hello my friend, no issues at all. I love a good debate with smart intelligent girls and glad to hear counter points. Lets see how the males behave towards khushi and how khushi interprets it.

Arnav - Khushi loves him or has feelings for him. So she is more willing to forgive him than she is to forgive Shyam. But, what Arnav does to her is still not right. When women get trapped in abusive relationships they tolerate a lot of crap because they love the person. But the abuse itself does not become right or justified. This is the point I was trying to make. If a third party who has no idea of khushi's feelings or arnav's feelings take an objective look at their dynamics, they'd tell you right away that Arnav is controlling, coercive, abusive, insulting and humiliates khushi at every possible opportunity. Its mental torture. Why does she hide it from the family because she thinks he loves her. This is a classic abuser-abused relationship.

Shyam - She loathes his touch and has never ever felt right about him. He is a married man to boot. She feels she should do something about it. He abuses her, accosts her, threatens her, coerces her and makes her miserable. How different is his behavior from Arnav?

Of late, there is a new threat from Shyam that is not a threat from Arnav's side - Shyam's increasing physical advances towards her. This is the ONLY thing differentiating the two the hero and the villian. On this, yes, I agree khushi needs to seek immediate help to protect herself. But I will qualify this. Pain and hurt are not always delivered in the physical form, what Arnav is doing to khushi is pure mental torture, which is also criminal in courts of law of most nations.

What we are doing is this - khushi hates shyam, therefore his acts become criminal but because Khushi loves Arnav the same acts on Arnav's part become non-criminal. This seems like she is applying double-standards of judging human behavior.

Our loved ones are granted more liberties towards us yes, but never the right to belittle or humiliate us. I hope I've made a bit more sense than my previous posts.

Edited by serialjunkie - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#96
you've made a lot of sense smriti...

i donot approve of arnav manhandling her too as per his whims and fancies... arnav acting like a masochist jerk is no better than shyam right now!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Exactly SJ, like I mentioned earlier, whatever the CVs show Arnav as doing to Khushi, are grounds for divorce in india.
Just bcoz she liked him/ has feelings for him doesnt mean that what Arnav is doing is right. I hated the dialogue when she says coz he is my husband, so he can hold me like that. W*F.. who said marriage can give such rights?
Infact like you mentioned a third person looks at the behaviour of Shyam & Arnav, they might think they are behaving in the exact same manner. Just coz a person is hot and good looking and he thinks he has a reason to behave this way doesnt mean his behavior is correct. Actually like that even Shyam might think he also has a valid rason to behave this way.
Anyways no matter how much we argue, these men should keep their hands to themselves..
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: serialjunkie



Hello my friend, no issues at all. I love a good debate with smart intelligent girls and glad to hear counter points. Lets see how the males behave towards khushi and how khushi interprets it.

Arnav - Khushi loves him or has feelings for him. So she is more willing to forgive him than she is to forgive Shyam. But, what Arnav does to her is still not right. When women get trapped in abusive relationships they tolerate a lot of crap because they love the person. But the abuse itself does not become right or justified. This is the point I was trying to make. If a third party who has no idea of khushi's feelings or arnav's feelings take an objective look at their dynamics, they'd tell you right away that Arnav is controlling, coercive, abusive, insulting and humiliates khushi at every possible opportunity. Its mental torture. Why does she hide it from the family because she thinks he loves her. This is a classic abuser-abused relationship.

Shyam - She loathes his touch and has never ever felt right about him. He is a married man to boot. She feels she should do something about it. He abuses her, accosts her, threatens her, coerces her and makes her miserable. How different is his behavior from Arnav?

Of late, there is a new threat from Shyam that is not a threat from Arnav's side - Shyam's increasing physical advances towards her. This is the ONLY thing differentiating the two the hero and the villian. On this, yes, I agree khushi needs to seek immediate help to protect herself. But I will qualify this. Pain and hurt are not always delivered in the physical form, what Arnav is doing to khushi is pure mental torture, which is also criminal in courts of law of most nations.

What we are doing is this - khushi hates shyam, therefore his acts become criminal but because Khushi loves Arnav the same acts on Arnav's part become non-criminal. This seems like she is applying double-standards of judging human behavior.

Our loved ones are granted more liberties towards us yes, but never the right to belittle or humiliate us. I hope I've made a bit more sense than my previous posts.

I agree smriti

pIt is arnav is vioIating khiushi because of shyam , and shyam because of arnav , both in the name of Iove,

they both seem to own her body mind and souI with the reason that each of them are in Iove with her , i find it disgusting

The issue i find with the entire track is not just khushi the cvs have written the pIot from arnav's angIe which in most cases has resuIted in justifying this behaviour

Nothing is shown abut the girI , she has her senses intact , i dont get it how she is abIe to bounce back with no fear or cnfusion with regard to both men

I dont think either of them have the Iiberty to touch hoId r even Iook at her as they are not sure of her feeIing towards them

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Thank you for starting this topic Napstermonster.

This a perfect example of how inconsistent her portrayal has been. Is this the same girl who has no qualms pushing away the man she loves(?), the man whom she is married to when they are fighting behind closed doors when it's against her wishes but cometh the creep it's like they send that KKG to mars and bring out a clone who can just stand mute! I wish they wouldn't ruin her characterization for the sake of prolonging this nauseating MU track. Either way the characterization at least of the female lead has to be consistent especially when it comes to sensitive issues like this. No, it's not normal to be repeatedly harassed like that and not react! Sure the first time, it may have taken her by surprise and she may have been unable to comprehend things or react suitably but by now she knows what the creep is capable of and is well aware of how he's been stalking her for ages. That pervert needs to be told his place, whether it happens in public or in private is inconsequential. You know what's even more weird, they rarely show how these advances affect her, she is supposed to be a young girl who has been forcibly married, and has had to be isolated from all her usual support system – and is living with a man who sends her mixed signals and seems bipolar by the looks of it – why isn't she creeped out? It makes total sense for her to confide in someone! Logically, you would expect Khushi to do that, her standing mute is not normal and nor does it make sense as something KKG would do otherwise. At this point, he could corner her and come on to her as well? Who the hell will come to her aid then?? There is nothing in wrong in touching upon this sensitive issue but I hope they will conclude this proper way and not sweep the dust under the carpet and let the pervert roam scot free.

If anything, that may actually add another layer of spice to this tale, but I reckon these guys don't want to go all out but stay on the fringes of this so called hatred track ...superficially. I think they'd probably do well if they could stick with a theme and follow it through properly.

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Posted: 13 years ago
i fully agree! appreciate your boldness to make this post!! 👏

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