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Posted: 13 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: napstermonster




Thank you! I honestly thought I was losing my mind, that I was the only one who saw how DEMEANING this was for Khushi, not the fact that its happening to her, because it can happen to anybody! Good point on the dupatta-she was so aware that no one could touch her without her permission, she threw hot tea thinking Arnav had dared to touch only a piece of her clothing.

And now Shyam can do this in public, grabbing her wrist, hurting her, she acts like she cant stop it, or do anything to him, she whimpers and doesnt knee him in the balls? This is NOT Khushi!

She is supposed to be a girl with STRONG sense of right or wrong, so sure about her rights-i mean, the FIRST episode was about how she didn't want Payal's then to-be-husband to take Dahej, eight? Remember her introduction scene, on a scooter, rushing off to stop an illegal discriminatory practice of dowry that demeans women?

And now she silently tolerates this? GOD!




Couldn't Agree with you both more. What is the matter with the CV's?? Is this the "soch Nayi" Star plus had been Talking about!!!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
#72
Nice post, Agree 100%!! Those kinda creeps, perverts & stalkers should not b encouraged, they r v dangerous ppl & completely wrong way of showing! Every girl should knw self-protection thats by being clear in words & actions! Pychos like shym take adv if they notice girl is afraid n play manipulation accordingly, they usually find girls who r subdued to b their victim so tht they can corner them n still they wont say a hing in nameof fami honor n all... So complete no no in dealing with such idiots n that would b putting a full stop to their actions by telling sum1 reliable who could help her thru this.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#73
Thank you so much for this post - I've been stalked before, by a pervert and a creep and I still get the creeps from Shyam because of the things he does are so reminiscent of what I've experienced. The lechery, the following, the tracking, the refusal to believe the wrongness of some actions. I avoided dealing with it for two years but after the confronting and yelling failed, I avoided him. Only when someone noticed me freaking out about this incidence and insisted that I go to someone who would be able to help me, did this get better.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#74
Yes Khushi's reactions towards Shyam is really pissing me off😡 khushi is being shown as a dumb immature kid who is madly in love with another man handler Arnav. SP is so proud of Rishta Vahi Soch Nahi stuff...I really dont where is the soch nayi here.😕
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Posted: 13 years ago
#75

Originally posted by: Rabba-Ve-Delena



🤗 I know you don't need comfort but this really exemplifies the REALITY of disgusting and unfortunate situations like this and what is shown on TV. Fortunately most of the forums members I've come across (no matter if I agree or disagree with them) seem like sane and reasonable people who can separate TV from reality and vice versa... but there is no denying that a majority of the audience of this show are impressionable and vulnerable .. Khushi remaining silent and wishing for Shaym's perverted behaviour to stop is not the right message to be sending out. I think that was at its peak when Khushi chose to remain silent after hearing about Anjali's pregnancy, I think the lines were something like "If this can be resolved without causing much drama, that would be better.." I mean for real?!?!😵 Lives can get destroyed by perverted incidents like this, people can be emotionally damaged and worst being physically violated and hurt which Khushi evidently has. I'm blaming Khushi here but the writers in general, the Gupta's choosing to remain silent?!?! Bua Ji threatening Shaym instead of contacting the police when she saw him disgustingly spying through the window watching Khushi. It's wrong.

I agree Ouma, in my friend's case, if any adults had got involved, like her parents or my parents, it would have been a total different thing. They would have never agreed to us running away from the problem or hiding this issue. The issues dont end there and people like that evil guy will keep on with their stuff till they learn a lesson, which is almost never.
What CVs showed us is that adults like Bua and Garima actually agree with the decision that Khushi took. That is totally wrong potrayal. They should have had all both the adults telling her that what she did was wrong and it was not the way to deal with the problem.
Buaji should be voiced out strongly and should have taken control of the situation ,which is what any sensible parent/ guardian would do. Atleast in coming episodes I hope they make buaji ask khushi abt Shyam behavior towards her after she went to RM
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Posted: 13 years ago
#76
Hello girls, There were many things I wanted to write but had to rush rush rush for my classes. I am back and guess what, first thing I do is check the forum.

I was always uneasy with the depiction of casual violence and casual ignorance shown in the show.

There is no reason for khushi to be a victim. She does not need to handle all these on her own. That part I get and fully understand. She can easily confide in anyone older than her for counsel and support. No doubt about that, especially if she is capable of starting and running her own business, we know she is no wall-flower. That part I COMPLETELY agree.

What I am having trouble with is selectivity of forum friends on picking on Khushi to report Shyam, protest her inactivity towards him and let the entire episode of forced marriage slide as necessary to story. If the marriage and shoddy behavior of Arnav is necessary to the story, I would argue that having Shyam around is also necessary. If keeping khushi silent about Arnav's daily tirade and humiliation of her is necessary then Shyam's ludicrousness can also be called necessary.

See, when we agree to swallow a ludicrous story line in the name of drama, we cannot pick and choose the ludicrousness. It comes as a package. One ludicrousness riles on group of fan base while the others rile another group of fan base. Either we take it all as group and say that well its necessary for drama and characterization or we say, no, we prefer real-life types of drama.


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Posted: 13 years ago
#77
totally agree coz he is harassing womens...and khushi is helpless.my 1 request is let khushi fight against shyam and arnav have to see this too
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Posted: 13 years ago
#78
Not only by Shyam, she has been abused by Arnav all this time. Him holding her arms and wrists harshly up to the point where it starts to hurt or leave bruises and pushing and shoving her all the time are all forms of abuse as well. Arnav's anger issues to top all of it. But nobody says anything about that because he is the hero and "he is so hot" and he is her "husband". NOTHING justifies that kind of behavior.

I enjoy watching this show because of the love-hate relationship but more so than ever it is becoming abusive day by day. That's not what I signed up for.

Arnav can be all angry with her as much as he wants but I didn't know that abusive aggression is the new thing these days!

And please dont tell me to just stop watching the show. It's also easy for me to say that if you dont agree with my POV, then don't post here!

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Posted: 13 years ago
#79

Originally posted by: napstermonster

I wanted to slap someone today, and it wasn't Shyam, or Arnav. It was Khushi.

Seriously, you know how you can watch CNN or Indian News or whatever, and social issues are being covered-there is that one question that VICTIMS of sexual violence are almost inevitably asked- when they get harassed, or raped, or molested whatever-no matter where they are-the west or the east, they are asked-What did you do to make this happen to you? Basically saying, in another way- "she asked for it."

Having worked with victims of rape, I can tell you, this question will inevitably be posed. By someone, usually a man, almost always a person who thinks that rape is about sex and not violence. But there are danger signals, especially when it comes to acquaintance rape. The signals include a steady increase in harassment, starting with lewd looks, then following, then inappropriate comments, then forced touching, and then physical assault. Shyam is following the classic pattern.

This is HIS sickness, she is not encouraging it, you can say.

YEAH she is-by not revealing what he's doing, screaming, asking for help, telling someone in authority, (ASR, Nani, for god's sake at this point I'd take Payal and Aakash) for NOT going crazy on his ass! By not yelling in his face, standing up to him, telling him in screams not whispers that he CANNOT do this, by not using a fear of being caught to make him back off, since he is shameless!

Dont tell me about protecting Arnav or the family or Anjali's unborn baby! What will happen when Khushi is raped which is where this would normally end up in real life? Which of these stupid concerns will help her deal with that trauma? What part of this will be soothing to her husband if his is wife assaulted without even knowing that she COULD have been protected because she didn't f**king tell him about her harassment?

So, out of SHEER ANGER at seeing what is drummed into women every day, about being careful, about being conscious of their rights, their control over their body and over who gets to goddamn touch that body, seeing that IGNORED today, I have to ask:

Are you asking for it Khushi? Are you really so goddamn stupid that you don't see danger signals from this insane perverted creep? Granted, slapping him will literally turn him on. Granted you are in a public place, and you can't do anything right away. But you are in danger and you know it, because your BODY tells you you are-YOUR INSTINCT is screaming warnings you are ignoring!

I'm worried because kids watch this show.

They will think, rudeness and being direct is worse than saying NO and walking away if they are made uncomfortable by someone or by some situation (Shyam/Khushi, and Anjali's meds thing! W*F!!)

They will think, a man can and will harass them in public, but they themselves should be soft and afraid of people's comments if they create a scene. They should quietly seek to escape, but never never create a scene since that is unfeminine/bad behavior.

They will think, a family member or family friend or an elder or someone important to their own parents/family should be given multiple chances simply because they are related or known, that they should allow the harassment to continue so people don't get upset.

They will think they have to fight such lewd potential rapists off by stupid means like dropping something heavy on their feet, or running away or using stupid avoidance techniques which never works because they are being STALKED as opposed to CONFRONTING such behavior, with an adult, or with someone who can protect them.

They will think its their responsibility to hide a pervert's behavior because it will hurt the pervert's family.

They will think the pervert's behavior will change if they stay away from him, or if he is given a warning. They worry their own loved ones they wont believe them and they'll be branded as a trouble maker.

NONE of these things are true, and Khushi's actions is perpetuating every last one of them !!!


Goddamit CVs, you've stuck it down our throats that this is a family show. Then protect the damn family values in this one instance, and give us a heroine who does the right, the ONLY thing she can and should do right now, which is to NOT let Shyam intimidate her, to NOT keep this a secret when its not her shame or her fault- LET HER FIGHT AND END HER OWN HARASSMENT!!!!


Mighty good question and I am happy you are concerned of the wrong messages these serials or this particular serial is sending to young kids...

But you think Khushi or the character of Khushi keeping quite with Shyam is only one sending danger messages?????

I fear girls may think contract marriage are in thing!!!!

I fear throwing someone from balcony or sending her on death mission will now turn girls on as they will think its hot to rescued...and will forget than no employer god even if he is God himself is capable of doing that!!!

I fear boys will think to protect their sister any girl in hand can be tortured!!!!

I fear now the elder sister will think interfering in their younger brother life is cool thing!!!

I fear that the so called people like Shyam who are married in to good looking girls but these girls are always obsessed with serial or their owe family their brother and their Nani will think its to parade around the wife brothers wife or with any other women!!!!!

I fear the young men will think its cool to abuse your wife as its a way of shoeing your love and young girls may take it like Khushi does!!!!

I fear young men may think shouting i hate you to wife is the in thing and the wife though hurt may take it!!!!!

So what do i do...then like CNN, IBN and everybody else say...the girl asked fro it...the wife whose husband has extra marital affair asked for it...

the guy who may in future end up losing his wife because thinking that he is acting smart and hot he abuses his wife...should i say he asked for it!!!!!!


Well dunno mixed feelings...so should love of a brother for sister...make the brothers out here hurt, abuse make fun out of marriage and do whatever they feel right to protect their sister by destorying lives all around!!!!

so should sister love her brother so much that her fainting may scare him...what does she have any pregnancy or blood cancer!!!

you mena hiding your illness from your loving family memebers that too simple illness esp when you are burdening a third person is right!!!

Is anjlai sending the right message to people...Seh freaks our when her Mangla sutra breaks and is always PDA in with her husband...he is god for her...is being like her right!!!!

Is entering into contract marriage for the sake of your sister right thing!!!

How is IPKKND sending message to anybody for that matter!!!!!

It just seems to have lot dysfunctional families and obsessed people!!


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: napstermonster



I'll be frank-if I was Khushi, I wouldn't want to share a sandwich with Payal, much less my troubles. Stupid, ineffective, helpless, self serving watering pot- first time in my LIFE I've found myself cheering on the evil saas torturing her bahu. I swear Mamiji does it so I don't have to.

Whenever I see Payal and Aakash I remember the hypocritical, self-righteous dialogue she spouted when his mom gave her hell for being ditched at the altar-Remember, the one about him being a bad bad boy by not telling his mommy dearest about her past, being all snooty about secrets and how "she dont believe in keeping them secrets no more"?

And when he promises to be honest forever, to start their marriage off on total trust and transparency she smiles and theres not a twinge in her conscience about the biggest one that is being kept from all the Raizadas-Shyam.

If there was a twinge, it sure died fast once she got into her wedding clothes and jewellery. Silence on something that might rock her boat-All so she can get married double quick. How is it only Khushi's job or decision to reveal Shyam's truth? Before the stupid ASR-KSR Wedding went down, Payal was the only one getting MARRIED into the family containing Anjali, the person being betrayed. To Anjali's BROTHER. At this stage, it was on her more than Khushi to tell everyone what she knew re. Shyam for the sake of her future family

And now that no one can take her gold bangles away from her, whats stopping her from telling her husband herself, without waiting for Khushi?

So Aakash at least can protect his own sister, even though Payal clearly doesn't give a damn about her own?

And how about a scene of Payal being an actual sister and asking Khushi in between bouts of sucking up to Mami-ji hard enough to leave hickeys- how about a scene where she cares enough to say "Hey, whats up with that obsessed pervert who's living two doors down from you in this house? Update me on whether he's still cheating our common nanad trying to get into your panties! Here's a pakora, lets chat like sisters do when they give a damn!!"...dumbass...



I totally agree with you I just hate that attitude of Payal...and oh how i wish all this is revealed through some other source to Aakash and he questions her left right and center!!!!

Wait i know Mami likes Anjali a lot!!! Hope she knows it ans questions Payal ...😡


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