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Posted: 13 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: FairyLiquidSoap

I had to go back and read once more😊 and yes much of what you have written made absolute sense and now am also able to get a better idea of the working of his mind vis a vis this whole marriage bit. But the one question that is still bugging me why did he have to chose this particular night when his brother is also getting married, granted he had to blackmail her into submission but knowing that he held all the cards anyways he could have gotten quietly married the next morning or is it for the TRP drama stakes?

I still say logic and reasoning has taken a beating with this track and hope the CV's are first able to redeem themselves before anybody else and Diya I hope this is not going to end with another cliched barefoot and pregnant out on the street sorts Khushi track, I think I would end up puking and lose all interest. Hey on second thoughts not a bad idea I could then do so many of the other things thta are just languishing by the side ever since this damn soap started😆



A bit of both ... 😆 his Dimaag went on holiday and he had to do everything immediately ... hey, I just had a thought - isn't this what Khushi normally does? Not stop to think, but just go for it immediately? And here she is the one waiting, watching ... while he is going berserk ...

And partly for TRP's ... a wedding is always a high point of a show and this wedding has had so many high points it has plateaued on top of Mt Everest!!!

Cliched as far as the misunderstanding goes ... yes, definitely ... hope things get better from here onwards ...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: pals13

i guess...thats why the CVs showed that ASR has fallen in love with Khushi and was abt to confess his feelings for her...


So now on...even if he tries to hurt her...his love will put him into his senses...



Yep, my feelings exactly ... that's why they spent the first three days showing his devastation when he saw Khushi with Shyam ... and then his breakdown ... to build sympathy for Arnav and show that he is in love with Khushi ... because from now, he is going to be harsh with her for a while ... but his love will always pull him back from the worst ...

@monalisa, sayani_monaya ... thanks!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Very nice and comprehensive analysis, DiyaS. Can I add my views on the mistakes..
1. Arnav's 1st mistake: He did not wait long in the terrace..
Although I wanted a direct confrontation of the trio, I can understand Arnav's reaction. Khushi's damning words about leaving Anjali was too much for Arnav and he could not make himself stand there any longer.
2. Mistake 2: We need to understand that Arnav is actually a damaged person. He did not believe in love, marriage and the rituals because of his mother's trauma. He has seen the ugly side of love ie the betrayal. He lost his mother for the same and is carrying an emotional scar ever since. It was hard for him to believe that now his sister is becoming the same victim as his mother was earlier. The person whom he respected as his Jijaji showed him again that nothing is trustworthy in life! So when he saw the ugly side of Shyam, a person whom Arnav had known for long and respected can be like this why not Khushi?? It is very evident after the terrace incident that Khushi has some sort of relationship with Shyam of which Arnav had NO clue.
3. Mistake 3. I agree with you on this. If Shyam had been lying earlier, he can lie now too! But the very fact that Arnav is not sure about Khushi's love says about Khushi too! The girl so far has a faster heartbeat whenever Arnav is in close vicinity. But has she ever demonstrated the love? If yes, then do you think Arnav would have had such doubts? Love needs to be expressed too so that the other person knows about it. This is why I love this track as this will pave way for both to express their love although maybe in anguished manner, but it has to come.


I don't think he thought about marriage in the car scene. He was scared of losing his sis like his mother so the anguished cry, then he realized Khushi the girl he is in love with is the culprit, he sits down on the road, defeated but then raises his head, bloodshot eyes with revenge in his head. But I think the scene after that when he come home and witnesses both Shyam and Khushi that he plotted marriage. Khushi's reaction were her 2nd mistake. If Khushi thought Shyam will change towards better after the news of baby, why was not she happy? She was showing an hurt expression when she came to know about Anjali's pregnancy. The look was not missed by Arnav, who looked at the expressions of both Khushi and Shyam and his belief that something is brewing between them strengthened!

I could not connect much with Fridays episode! I liked the promo shot of Arnav with garland in his hand coming matter-of-factly way better than the episode! I know I am in absolute monority, but for me ASR displayed too much of emotion confronting the family. I though he will be businesslike, the way he was when he broke his engagement with Lavanya!😊

I understand Khushi's plight but at this point I don't expect Arnav to understand her plight, for him she is still the person breaking his sister's marriage.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Zuzana

Hi Diya🤗, Absolutely loved your post.👏


Diya I just wrote in Sush thread that I doubt it was for punishing her ...but reading your post confirmed my doubts..thanks for writing it in such beautiful words...and that point when he sat there on that lonely road he promised to make her his to punish her...for now LM has CUT IT😆...but I want to see that scene when he makes that decision later part in the show..I want to see a scene where he remembers his Di''s words..however stupid it looks you have to listen to his heart and that day he exactly did that...they cant show us that he married for his Sis...this is supposed to be a eternal love story...sheesh enough of bro-sis in between their love. Yes kushi has to pay the price because its her destiny...he is the chosen one for her by DM. First round it is kushi's Agnipariksha and followed will be his when he learns the truth.

Basically as you say there is no trust and foundation..both dont have anything solid to hold on and say the other loves them...sad at the moment ..but whatever its this is going to be the best decision he has taken for both of them...as much as you said it will hurt now...both have to go through this pain to gain the trust.

I think Garima's slap was more for making Arnav realise the repercussions of his decision...but before he goes off I want him to clarify something so that others dont trouble kushi by their queries..Gosh what will she tell her when she herself doesnt know the reason.

Glad or what thats its a real marriage ..live-in would have totally ruined the show...but 6 mths takes a beating. Thanks for the post...enjoyed reading it thoroughly.😳



Hey Zu ... @bold ... that's what I felt too ... that was when he took the decision ... he had tears in his eyes at Khushi's betrayal ... and then he decided he wasn't going to let ehr go, he was going to keep her close and punish her ... I'm glad you thought the same way 😆

I wonder if they will show anything more of his thoughts or not ... I really don't want it to be all about Anjali ... although the ostensible reason is Anjali, but they have to show that he couldn't stand the thought of sending her away from him ... and that's why he chose this route ... bro-sis is all very well in their place, but get to the love story!!! This is not EHMMB ... no offence to that show 😆

I would have been really upset if it had been a live in disguised as marriage - especially knowing Khushi's views on live in - it would have seemed too cruel ... but I wonder how did they get married? Temple? They should show us something in fb's about what they did ... Khushi agreed to a contract marriage, not to a sham marriage. But yep, right decision ... wrong way ... wrong means, right end ... chalo, ArHi are married now, so Khushi is in RM permanently ... let's get on with the love story now! 😛
Thanks for replying ... loved your take!
Edited by DiyaS - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Wow your analysis and your writing are brilliant. The way you bring out deeper meanings makes me want to watch the episodes again. And you are absolutely right about Arnavs road to redemption...he best not be forgiven easily.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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great analysis!!! thanks for sharing!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: ash_cosmic

The week that was full of high drama and technically very good in execution of episodes. (Baruns scene full of special effects etc to lift the scene, brilliant shots and camera work .Editing was really better this week) Not to forget, pace was good too.Me not bothered abt the twist much , interested only in its presentation.

The car scene was technically excellent ... the whole set up, and including the very careful choice of fb's and voiceovers ... very, very effectively done.

Most unbaised post, lovely going thru it. I have always said Anjali is top priority for Arnav was always bakwas to me , from which angle ?

i have always seen arnav feeling responsible towards Anjali but when it comes to matter of heart and emotions to Arnav , its always been Khushi to him.
I AGREE ... I feel the same way ... Anjali is the dependent clingy one ... she is Arnav's weakness, never his strength ... she is the reason he was forced to grow up and become a man far too quickly. Am so glad to find someone who sees it the same way. And Khushi is his strength ... she battles him, challenges him, brings him back to life, he enjoys his tussles with her ...

I liked SI, Abha acting most and Barun , Abhas were good.
Again, agree with you there .. BS and Abhas were good the first three days, SI took over on Thu-Fri and just overshadowed the whole lot. Abha Parmar was spot on in her reactions on Friday ... of all the supporting cast, I really liked the way she portrayed her character.

Hope, scripts gets good grip on characters this week too.

plz spare me from Anj-Arnav scenes i never liked their scenes from day one and I liked daljeet acting appealing only in 2 episodes (weeks before ) .Scenes would be written so wel for them but its execution sucks big time for me .they keep slipping off here and there from characters , they need to discuss a lot and rehearse more , just not appealing at all.Dialogues looks heavy at times for their acting which they cannot enact, director has to work more here, do you get what i'm saying ? I have said it before and will repeat again, their scenes are just not convincing to me.hope they prove me wrong.
I was left quite untouched by the Anjali-Arnav scenes after Anjali's accident, and I think you put your finger on it ... probably the acting was not up to par, so they didn't touch me ... I felt too that they were overdone and melodramatic ... I like Anjali-Arnav scenes when they keep them to that light dry teasing of Arnav's ... this overly sentimental stuff doesn't really cut it for me.

My mom is a bit involved and she is still stuck with thur/fri episode and feeling very bad for Khushi.I keep telling her , its a fiction dont get involved .

She does not like anjali since day one (nothing to do with actor or character) somewhere Anjali has not impressed my mom at all I guess and I did tell my mom that i'll share this in IF, mom all happy.
the moment Anj comes onscreen mom says
"she is like this housefly which has fell on kheer, which spoils everything and you cannot have it" - its a saying in my lang "paisa da le nona bedh hunge ", then i had to explain her abt the Gul Khans interview to her abt Anjalis character , after i finished explaining to her she was not convinced again immediately said that she is selfish .Then she described me her character like "a blind man running behind a black cat in a dark room which is not there", again she says Anj is not real or does not come across as real .I finally gave up😆
I like your mom's take 😆 ... Anjali is like an ostrich, burying her head in the sand, thinking that if she doesn't look at anything bad, it will go away ... she is also over-dependent, clingy and mollycoddling ... I call that kind of love "smothering" ... not mothering ...
I guess from Gul Khan's iv, that makes sense of her character, but it also means she could be the next stumbling block for ArHi because such people are dangerous, they have everybody else wrapped around their little fingers because of their over-sweetness, and they manage to get their own way all the time because of that.



i just hope , they maintain the pace this week too and continue with story telling.

Let's hope so ... I want more of the main ArHi story now that they are married ...
Thanks so much for replying, loved reading your take!

Edited by DiyaS - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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DiyaS

Wonderful analysis. very well written. Spot on.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Excellent analysis Diya. I especially liked the part where you made the case that Arnav's decision to marry Khushi was about both his deep love and hate for Khushi or rather hate for what he thinks she did. Yes, his 'dimaag' wasn't working like it did not in all his past knee jerk reactions taken in anger.


Posting below what I posted in your blog.

My heart went out to the poor girl. Isn't it ironic that she was emotionally blackmailed into a hurried and unwilling engagement which she ultimately broke on realising her fiance was a married man and now she got emotionally blackmailed again into a hurried and unwilling wedding because she is believed to be trying to break up the very marriage she had earlier saved? What's worse is that the indecent proposal of a short term marriage comes from the man she loves and that too at a time when she was expecting a love confession from him. Her trust in the man which was just beginning to be restored by his thoughtful and sensitive acts during the run up to the wedding just got rudely crushed. It would be a Herculian task for the man to get her to trust him again once he realises the biggest blunder he has made in his life.


If only he had used his famed 'dimag' if not his newly found 'dil', he would have realised that Khushi is the last person who would tango with a married man. Had he not seen the woman shed tears seeing him in the arms of another woman? Had he not seen the stark pain in her eyes when he announced his engagement to that woman? Did she not rush into his arms to seek comfort when her dad was seriously ill? Did he not hear her berate him for belittling the institution of marriage? How could he even think that this woman is in love with another man and that too a married one at that? Yes, he heard her ask him to break ties with her, but what makes him think that she said that so as to get married to him? Oh sorry, he wasn't thinking. After all his brain shuts down when his fury flares up.



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I felt deep down he cannot believe in Khushi's duplicity because if she was capable of leading him on when she had her eyes and heart fixed on his bro-in-law, would she also not have been capable of double crossing him and back out of the forced marriage after ensuring Payal and Akaash were married? He seemed to believe that once she has given her word, she will not retract. One can argue that he was sure she would not take the chance of backtracking because of the threat that he could mess up Payal's married life if she did so. But then could he not have done that if she had succeeded in breaking Anjali's marriage and hooked up with Shyam post the break up? Would that not have deterred her from going down that path, considering how much she loves her sister? If she cared two hoots about the repercussions of a possible marriage to Shyam in future on her sister's marriage, why would she not want to risk her sister's happiness when he laid out his conditional marriage proposal?


He also seemed to believe that she will honour the sanctity of their short-term marriage once she is tied to him and would stay away from Shyam during that period so that Anjali's pregnancy could be stress free. Isn't it strange that such a girl would have no qualms tangoing with a much married man then?


So it is clear that he was not thinking rationally but he knew in the depths of his heart that Khushi has some principles which he can rely on to get her to agree to this preposterous proposal of his. Once his anger dies down I want him to introspect on both their actions. I want him to scratch beneath the surface and dig out the truth, for something clearly does not add up here and if he is half as intelligent as he claims himself to be, he needs to connect the dots. I don't want everything to be spelt out for him.

And yes, his remorse, once he realises the huge blunder he committed, is going to be enormous to say the least and I want him to make up to her big time. I know he is a man of actions and not so much of words and I would love to see the lengths he would go to make things right for her. Would love to see him propose to her under a starry night when he first looks up at the stars she pointed out as her amma and bhabuji and promises them that he will always strive to make their Khushi, always khushi in her life, stand by her in all her trials and tribulations and respect and honour her for the rest of his life. I don't think Khushi can resist that. I also want Khushi to know about Arnav past to understand where he is coming from. I'm sure Arnav is not going to tell her about it but she could find out from Anjali, now that she is her sister-in-law.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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hey diya...your post made me break my own rule of not logging into the forum during office time. your post was faboulous. no words...no one else on the forum has given such a beautiful in depth analysis into arnav's mind and the actual reason as to why he decided to marry her. and you are bang on...its not to save his sister's marriage or her health. he might delude himself that he is buying time to deal with shyam but deep within he is staking a claim to her unbeknownst to himself. he probably also justifies it as 'revenge' but the fact is he cannot let her go now that he has realised he is totally in love with her.
lovely post, superb analysis. made for beautiful reading. and like someone has said in this thread - the analysis is even better than watching the episodes 😊

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