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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Viji79

In all these issues you have mentioned, there are more illogical shows. But as much as we pin it on Barun for being the only reason to watch, lets also accept that those who are criticising are also heavily biased sue to season 1. So lets reframe the question. If not for season 1, would people have been so critical of this show?

If we accept the fact that if not for S1 there wouldn't be an S3 and considering also the fact that S3 was marketed on the back of the goodwill generated from S1, if people expect a certain standard (or consistency or style, I don't know what would be the right term) in terms of story telling is it wrong on their part to question?
Speaking for myself if not for the actor I wouldn't have given as many chances I have given this otherwise
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Viji79

In all these issues you have mentioned, there are more illogical shows. But as much as we pin it on Barun for being the only reason to watch, lets also accept that those who are criticising are also heavily biased sue to season 1. So lets reframe the question. If not for season 1, would people have been so critical of this show?

thts exactly my answer.if not fr barun or season one name would these people criticise a show so much . first start with copy paste thing i am seeing so many repeated scenes from hegde shows like namkaran if i start picking list will be endless.then there was this heavy issue of tht saree burning promo and ppl brought some abuse thing .watching in simar show segment woman are slapping each other continuously even a daughter slap her mother tht sp show dabh sequel has husband putting bed on fire when his wife is sitting there why no hullaboo on that .
Coming this topic.i watch a serial fr entertainment .screenplay bg editing n all is not my thing .frankly if i wasnt in if i wouldnt have bother to get reminded about it.switch on tv fr few minutes watch if i get good entertainment thats it.
I will have surely check this serial if not fr barun even .would have made fun sometime in amusement just like i do fr shows like kumkum bhagya n all .doesnt matter so much .but yes here it has barun who is my fav actor so i follow it to phangurl
Edited by Channa_mereyaa - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Viji79

In all these issues you have mentioned, there are more illogical shows. But as much as we pin it on Barun for being the only reason to watch, lets also accept that those who are criticising are also heavily biased sue to season 1. So lets reframe the question. If not for season 1, would people have been so critical of this show?

No I am not keen on reframing the question, and not in a manner that diffuses the question on so many levels.
I am not talking about how logical or illogical other shows are, I would like to know if Barun was not Advay, would you watch the show?

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Posted: 8 years ago
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A few very good questions! The thing is, IPK 3 is at a heavy disadvantage when it comes to fan criticism/ heavy dissecting of the episodes. Let me break it down.
Usually, a show takes time to accumulate a fan base and this forum would not be as active if it was a new show. The forum would only consist of people who genuinely got attracted to the show and came to discuss it and it would take time to build a loyal audience.

Now, having being put under the umbrella of IPKKND with Barun as the main protagonist, it is going to bring a whole bunch of previously existing fans.

From one angle, the show comes with a fandom of ready made viewers but on the other hand, they are going to criticize and compare the show to it's preceder, heavily so. It comes part and parcel of being under a popular franchise name.

Would I have come to this forum if it wasn't for the fact that this is a 4lions production and Barun is part of it? No.
I didn't bother with IPK-2 because I knew it wasn't a 4lions production and I have a genuine regard for their ability to create a good romantic story. Barun being a part of it only a very small fraction of the deal.
So my point is, most people who watch this show/ come to the forum might not be here for reasons most people visit other TV forums/watch TV shows 😉

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Posted: 8 years ago
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I have started watching indian tv fiction series after 3 years only cauz of barun. n i m only following one thats is IPKKND 3
so if not barun or my fav actress show tv series are like aliens to me
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: JaneFoster


No I am not keen on reframing the question, and not in a manner that diffuses the question on so many levels.
I am not talking about how logical or illogical other shows are, I would like to know if Barun was not Advay, would you watch the show?



I would have still watched it for Gul. Yes. I gave QH and humsafars a try only for Gul, though I didn't stay with it till end since both the stories stopped making any sense beyond a point. I watch IB because its is from Gul and has some awesome performers.

I am not the blind fan of Barun to not see the flaws but its too early for me to give up on the show because of these flaws which ae clearly being worked upon. We cant deny that the issues are being addressed.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Viji79

In all these issues you have mentioned, there are more illogical shows. But as much as we pin it on Barun for being the only reason to watch, lets also accept that those who are criticising are also heavily biased sue to season 1. So lets reframe the question. If not for season 1, would people have been so critical of this show?


I understand your point ... but I don't think ipk1 hangover is the only issue ... 20mins every day is a lot ... baring a few fan groups rest of us will watch if the product is good and discontinue if the product is not as per our taste ...i personal don't believe people would devote 20mins every day just to support an actor ... it's entertainment it's suppose to entertain ... no sacrifices

Let me explain where I come from ...I watched IPK 1 ...was active on forum too , but after about I think it's the forced wedding or kidnapping track I lost interest I quit watching ... so I am not a loyal fan ... I did not stick by a show that I was actively involved chatting about in this forum after I thought the show quality went bad

Same has been my approach with IPK 2 n 3 too ... was looking forward for the show ... watched a weeks episide ...didn't find it entertaining ..so I stopped

I think that's the way it is ..no fan will stick if the product is really bad for long , number of haters will automatically reduce if they can make a product that entertains a potential hater :-)
. show has to find its target audience and Imbibe the essence(what ever it is , kitchen politics , vamp drama or revenge saga) and simple get their act right

Forum has always been interesting though :-)


@janefoster
To Answer your question ..: I am not the target audience for that question :-)
I quit after week 1 /2 despite Sobti 😆
Edited by tttttt1 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: ttt1


I understand your point ... but I don't think ipk1 hangover is the only issue ... 20mins every day is a lot ... baring a few fan groups rest of us will watch if the product is good and discontinue if the product is not as per our taste ...i personal don't believe people would devote 20mins every day just to support an actor ... it's entertainment it's suppose to entertain ... no sacrifices

Let me explain where I come from ...I watched IPK 1 ...was active on forum too , but after about I think it's the forced wedding or kidnapping track I lost interest I quit watching ... so I am not a loyal fan ... I did not stick by a show that I was actively involved chatting about in this forum after I thought the show quality went bad

Same has been my approach with IPK 2 n 3 too ... was looking forward for the show ... watched a weeks episide ...didn't find it entertaining ..so I stopped

I think that's the way it is ..no fan will stick if the product is really bad for long , number of haters will automatically reduce if they can make a product that entertains a potential hater :-)
. show has to find its target audience and Imbibe the essence(what ever it is , kitchen politics , vamp drama or revenge saga) and simple get their act right

Forum has always been interesting though :-)


@janefoster
To Answer your question ..: I am not the target audience for that question :-)
I quit after week 1 /2 despite Sobti 😆


Even though I am not particularly appreciative of such a dispersion of my questions, I'll just say that it's true that this show received criticism because it had Barun, but at the same time it has inordinate fan base also due to Barun.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: JaneFoster

Would you have watched the show?
Watched it for the content?
Watched it for the chemistry of lead couple?
Watched it putting up with background music?
Watched it after the editing disaster?


And still justify the shortcomings?
Justify the the technology?
Justify the loose plot?
Justify the inconsistent character development?

Would you still give it time?

Would you?


I think the above questions in themselves are unfair.
Well lets put it this way , a senseless Salman Khan movie like Jai ho, Kick or even Tubelight for that matter of fact makes 1oo crore. Why is that so? It is because Salman is a brand. He has earned that love and stardom that he can single handedly with out a good script etc etc still bring in the numbers.

Barun too is someone like that. He is a brand. Barun has earned this stardom. He is ASR . IPK would not even exist without Barun. Also when you know that Barun has taken up a project, you know for sure that it has to be a good story , a meaningful one and it is going to be a visual romantic treat😳 to all the viewers. We go into it expecting 10hr long eye locks and trip and fall and brush and graze of skin and all the dhak dhak and acidity while different versions of rabba vey blast away in the BG.

So we are talking about a brand here. Barun is the brand of IPK itself. ( well yes so is Sanaya). But if either were to return to IPK alone or together i think they have all the right to as they were the ones who created the magic with IPK.
Well TBH even if sanaya was to come back in next season without Barun , i would still sit and watch the show for her, as she too is the brand of IPK.
There are too many shows on the TV with shoddy concept , screenplay dialogues and sequences, Yet they manage to garner TRP's and appreciation.

Here we have the king himself, gracing out TV screens after 5 long years. Instead of criticising and nit picking, we need to sit down and give the show a chance.

To answer your question : No , Barun is not why I started watching, The fact that it is IPKKND is what piqued my interest. Barun is only the icing on the cake. I came with a certain expectation and so far the show has impressed me. i am loving all the characters, the chemistry and the story line too seems really good.
The character is that of an anti hero, who has dealth with personal tragedy that we cannot even imagine or empathise with. ONLY BARUN and no one other than BARUN can justify this complicated complex character of Advay.

Ok Yes i also am here for BARUN SOBTI, but thats because i want to see how well Barun steps into Advays character. I want to enjoy this journey of IPK with Advay Singh Raizada and am only grateful that it will be Barun who will be taking us on this journey. I am not here to watch Barun try to do a Arnav, this story belong to Advay and Chandini and I am here to watch these two burn down the screen with their anger, passion, lust , hate and love.

The BGM's are remixed version of Rabba vey and I don't think there is anything wrong in that. There are many remixes of old classics happening even in bollywood, so what if IPK do the same.

Most of us are not justifying the short coming or the flaws in the show. If you were to read the posts on this forum , many of the posts, including the ones that i have written , all clearly criticise the negatives. We are here to have a good time. We will appreciate and we will criticise but all the while we will love Barun and Gul for having the courage to face all the criticism and still create such a magical show for us.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: JaneFoster



Even though I am not particularly appreciative of such a dispersion of my questions, I'll just say that it's true that this show received criticism because it had Barun, but at the same time it has inordinate fan base also due to Barun.


To answer your question to the point
I don't think people will watch the show for more than a period cos of an actor or stop watching cos of an actor ...

The intial noise is cos of the actor n tag IPK... but saying that ... that was the intention I guess to create attention with history n success of IPK ... to make people watch because there is ASR in it (quite literally...either ways actor n character ) ...now that . would back fire if the product is not good (wrt to the projected target group) ... would benefit if the product is good .. because branding is already done ... target audience is partly done.,.. which takes other shows take a pretty good time in building

So in short I agree with both of you .. what you are trying to convey
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