Vanvas- Rishtey Ki Aasli Agni Pariksha?

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Why is the September 1st episode so important to me? What happened there that struck a certain chord for me and had me watching it over and over again? What about today's episode prompted me to make a post.

It was the scene between Shivvay and Pinky Singh Oberoi that made me revisit the September 1st episode. It was the scene between Shakti and Dadi and later Pinky and Dadi that made me revisit it.

September 1st was the day that ShivIka took the final challenge. That day ended with the golden Prince leaving his 'Palace of Pleasures, Royal Robes, his Chariots and his Team of Staff ' and walking out to live like a common man with only enough money to survive on, like his wife would have done, before she became an Oberoi.

The scene that stuck out and refused to go away was the one immediately following the one where Pinky walks in after Annika has finished her imitation of Shivvay.

Pinky: "Aaisa hi keheta hai mera beta, ki who saab theek kar dega... Aapni Ma ko toh jaisey bhul hi gaya hai"

Annika: "Lekin mujhe yakeen hai ki Shivvay saab theek kar dengey"

The stone faced and unmoved Shivvay is very clear to see. He has cut off all ties that his mother is still holding on to. She is only Mrs. Pinky Oberoi now not Ma anymore.

He has disowned her just like she had disowned him to Annika by calling him illegitimate. He has also disowned her like she had made him disown the love of his life and the very reason for his happiness - his wife.

To me that in a way is poetic justice for the woman who had made him disown his own wife before the whole world. The burden of that sin must still weigh heavy on his heart even though he was an innocent victim of her machinations.

He was very clear that he would even forgive Pinky for what she had done to him but would not forgive her for what she did to Annika. She has already lost him emotionally and if Pinky pulls another stunt again, this time I think it is going to be the physical loss of her son who will not hesitate to even walk out with his wife.

Shivvay: "Annika par var karna matlab Shivvay pe var karna hai.

He said Shivvay' , not Shivvay Singh Oberoi' like he used to before.

Dadi was happy that Shivvay supported Annika.

Her words were that when life is good and we have plenty it is very easy to walk shoulder to shoulder with your partner but when times are difficult, that is when the true strength of a relationship is tested.

Dadi: "... Rishtey ki aasli agni pariksha tab hoti hai jab humarey paas kuch na ho. Matlab sukh suvidhaye, aaish o aaram kuch bhi nahi."

He has also reaffirmed that Annika's respect is his respect and Annika is his pride. Whatever secret the envelop holds about Shivvay this time it will not matter because even if she ends up manipulating either Annika or Shivvay I am sure that there will be no separation between ShivIka. There will be another journey for sure but a journey that they both will make together to find that truth. And so comes challenge number three where Dadi challenges that they live together happily even in a situation where they do not have any luxuries.

I will insert a small note about Rudy a.k.a. Lakshman who might walk out with Bhaiya-Bhabhi. He, I feel, is being groomed into a working man who has to understand responsibility and manual labor as opposed to being paid for just signing a cheque at the Oberoi offices. Is that also his track as per the challenge that Bhavya has thrown at him?

Then we have the RiKara track - where once again Om the shattered brother will be alone and Shivvay will need Gauri to support and look after him till he returns. Shivvay will place Om in Gauri's care so that he will not feel the loneliness and pain of his brothers loss. That is where RiKara is headed as well I feel with them placing the Family Deity at the home temple, the guardians of the Oberoi House in the absence of ShivIka. Om an unwilling and hesitant businessman will need to shoulder the responsibility of the Family Business in Shivvay's absence.

Maybe I am overthinking this but somehow I feel that the challenges that Dadi put before ShivIka were a premonition of the life that was to come for the Older Oberoi son and bahu. It is the Vanvas track that we might be heralding with Svetlana being exposed and the secret being hidden by Dadi and Shakti, the honorable elders in the Family who truly hold it together.

The first challenge was preparing a meal for each other according to the partner's choice which was learning to understand and appreciate each other's tastes. The meal was bad but they covered up for each other and they passed that test. The second was role play where each acted out the other and they passed that as well. The third is living the life that your partner lived and the challenges she faced prior to her meeting you.

What I could not understand was why the challenge was just for one day and why that was wrapped up in the span of two episodes with Shivvay getting only a mild taste of what Annika's world was like. I mean they could have easily made that experience a bit more meaningful and a bit longer and I am sure that none of us would have objected in the least.

I remember ASR staying with Khushi at her place was definitely a track none of us IPK fans will ever forget. That could have been done with ShivIka as well with at least 3 days being spent there as opposed to one day.

So maybe it was kept short because there was to be a longer track with him experiencing her life and what the Oberoi's put her through. This way we might get at least the track where he delves into Annika's past now because it is connected with his Family's secrets.

He might even come to realize that contrary to what Pinky Singh Oberoi always said it was the Oberoi's who were 'bad luck' for Annika not the other way around. That quest to prove/ or the need to rectify the wrong (if that secret is in the envelop already), might cause him to disown his Naam, Khoon and Khandaan that he was always so very proud of.

He was so enraged when she told him she was beaten in the dark at the orphanage. Now imagine this man finds out that his Family was the cause of all the suffering and trauma that she faced all her life. That guilt is enough to weigh any loving husband down to disown who he is.

Again maybe I am wrong but I feel that this is the grand finale of Pinky's so called arc that somehow fell very short of all our expectations. We were expecting a nuclear warhead after all that build up and all we got was a scud missle. Pinky causing an issue during the wedding is a given and with all the warnings that we have Shivvay giving her over and over again, it seems like they want us to prepare for his final walking out.

Even today he very openly stated that he did not trust her with his wedding preparations, wedding plans or even anywhere near his wife because he has realized how much she hates Annika and what lengths she is willing to go to in order to remove her from his life.

So that itself, with Dadi's warning as an added twist, is going to have a major arc closure I feel which concludes with him walking out with his wife after the wedding ceremony. I also feel that no one will stop him or try to make him change his mind because they will understand that this is what he needs to do in order to stand by his wife and his life partner. After all this second wedding should have some purpose to it and the envelope being found some reason.

Shivvay is the Neev and with him so is Annika now. What happens when the very foundation is shaken and weak or decides to leave?

Maybe to live in the Haveli that Om and Gauri had recently gone to or maybe Annika's chawl.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Bang on post Pearl... 👏

Just reposting wht i had posted on EDT

I have been thinking what is the thing that can shatter or break ShivOmRu????
Here i remember Svet in initial IB Promo... "Inki Lanka tab jalegi, jab inme se koi Vanvaas Jayega"

I smell Vanvaas here, & yest. Shivaay saying he'll leave in a scene with Pinky ... was it foreshadowing???

Back to what can raaz be??? Yest. Anika did not find the lock for those keys... The envelope was in some other cupboard & only seeing it Dadi got worried

What can letter hold? If she was so worried seeing the envelope , then that keys might hold something really huge?? & Svet knows it & she has come here for destroying Oberois... Money is not her motive

1) Obros are unaffected by Money, so raaz cannot be something related to Property/ Money, etc distribution

2) We hv seen illegitimacy too won't break them... Shivaay hide it frm Om & OmRu did the same - Illegitimacy track ruled out

So what can break/ Shatter them???

I feel partial raaz wud be out during wedding, just b4 it or just after wedding


Edited by Niyati_21 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Loved this thought it particular
That is where RiKara is headed as well I feel with them placing the Family Deity at the home temple, the guardians of the Oberoi House in the absence of ShivIka.

Even thought they have developmental delays in their own relationship. RiKara are always the first ones to help those in need and put them first, be in Shivaye or Annika. (as seen in the stop bhaujai's wedding sequence) and for them, this will be a monumental moment because it will force them to work together for the betterment of the entire family--something they'll do happily for the family...


Even today he very openly stated that he did not trust her with his wedding preparations, wedding plans or even anywhere near his wife because he has realized how much she hates Annika and what lengths she is willing to go to in order to remove her from his life.

Today, he also said to Pinky after that scene "'main hi chale jata hoon"

If She {pinky} won't leave, then he will...whether that'll be from the house or only Pinky's life, only time will tell
Edited by _Tabs_ - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I would much prefer the story to go the way you described than what is going around in my head right now. I can't get over the dread that Pinky will kidnap Shivaay and plant Mahi in the mandap. You see, Gul has this strange compulsion for getting her FL married to the ML's brother. I would rather watch a vanvas track for eternity than any MahiKa BS.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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As usual, An Amazing view!!

I will like to see this in the show!!😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Niyati_21

Bang on post Pearl... 👏

Just reposting wht i had posted on EDT

I have been thinking what is the thing that can shatter or break ShivOmRu????
Here i remember Svet in initial IB Promo... "Inki Lanka tab jalegi, jab inme se koi Vanvaas Jayega"
Tks for bringing that up ... I forgot to add that in my post as it was a more Pinky focused post but yes ... it seems it is all going to culminate into a huge bang with Pinky actually causing the bang

I smell Vanvaas here, & yest. Shivaay saying he'll leave in a scene with Pinky ... was it foreshadowing???Absolutely ... very openly he said , 'no don't bother, it is better that I leave", and he did leave, not she. Also he keeps saying that this is her house and her Family but HE is not her son so him leaving will not be that painful to him right now.

Back to what can raaz be??? Yest. Anika did not find the lock for those keys... The envelope was in some other cupboard & only seeing it Dadi got worried

What can letter hold? If she was so worried seeing the envelope , then that keys might hold something really huge?? & Svet knows it & she has come here for destroying Oberois... Money is not her motive As far as I remember Svet's was a personal vendetta and the Chemical Factory issue but again it might be completely unrelated to Annika. Svet finding
what she is looking for might unlock something that will lead to Annika's past maybe

1) Obros are unaffected by Money, so raaz cannot be something related to Property/ Money, etc distribution

2) We hv seen illegitimacy too won't break them... Shivaay hide it frm Om & OmRu did the same - Illegitimacy track ruled out

So what can break/ Shatter them??? That they have caused the death of an innocent person and the destruction of their Family??

I feel partial raaz wud be out during wedding, just b4 it or just after wedding


Edited by asya34 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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His dialogue today 'main his chala jata hoon' foreshadows his leaving doesn't it? Maybe when he finds out that Oberois are connected and responsible for whatever happened in Annika's past he will renounce the Oberoi name and walk out with Annika or maybe Pinky will attack Annika and he will walk out with Annika. However it is he will walk out himself!


Like daadi said today, this raaz will shake the neev and Shivaay is the neev of Oberois and Annika has become his neev and support so anything that affects her will affect him!
Edited by DarkPhoenix93 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Awesome post pearl...
I had seen so many post saying that now a days the episodes are being so random like the challenges... games etc and especially they didn't used the chawl situation properly... but now when I look back everything is so connected yar... they writers has something in their mind... same happened during baby track...when they showed that most of them thought that it was not needed even though we enjoyed it...but at the last episode only we understood that how much importance it had... like that everything going on is connected somewhere... From the beginning itself the promo showed of vanvas track...
and the way Rudra is becoming responsible...it means that he is the one who is going to take care of bussiness... but once I thought that he will also leave with shivaay but now I think he will be with family and rikara...shivaay is om's strength and if he goes away he will be devastated ... and it's gauri's time to become the strength of om... Maybe that's why CV's are taking their story little slow...
One thing I am glad that shivaay knows pinky will never change...maybe he will forgive her when Annika persuades him but he will always maintain a distance from her and he will never trust her again... he will always have a fear in his heart that she will take Annika away from him... so many secrets are there in Oberoi mansion...the one thing is related to vanvass track and other maybe to Annika's past... I had seen so many speculation related to that here.. that now it's Annika's time to decide whether her past or shivaay is more important... wat if Oberois had hand in her parents death and wat will happen if that truth came out before marriage...But wat ever it is i strongly believes that for Annika Shivaay comes first...so their will be no point of choosing ... Annika is not a person who will hold get influensed by the past... she is a fighter and she believes in living in the present...and if by chance shivaay comes to know about it also... he wnt be able to keep it as a secret from Annika because she can read him like a open book...Now it's time for them to deal with it together... till now they protected each other seperatly...now it's time to be together and become each others strength
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Loved this thought it particular
That is where RiKara is headed as well I feel with them placing the Family Deity at the home temple, the guardians of the Oberoi House in the absence of ShivIka.

Even thought they have developmental delays in their own relationship. RiKara are always the first ones to help those in need and put them first, be in Shivaye or Annika. (as seen in the stop bhaujai's wedding sequence) and for them, this will be a monumental moment because it will force them to work together for the betterment of the entire family--something they'll do happily for the family... I am a little frustrated with the lack of depth and story for RiKara who seem to be stuck in a time wrap. They go two steps forward and one step back staying mostly where they are making zilch progress. I am hoping that it was being done for this reason so that now their story can take off and get more meaning. They will need to work the Vishvas and the whole truth issue between each other if they are going to keep the Family together with a shattered Dadi.


Even today he very openly stated that he did not trust her with his wedding preparations, wedding plans or even anywhere near his wife because he has realized how much she hates Annika and what lengths she is willing to go to in order to remove her from his life.

Today, he also said to Pinky after that scene "'main hi chale jata hoon"
If She {pinky} won't leave, then he will...whether that'll be from the house or only Pinky's life, only time will tell ... and at this point of his relationship where he has already lost her once because of Pinky, he definitely will without a second thought. And again the red bit I felt was premonition.

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Hugs ...,, you said it all n more . I would love to see Pinkys arc complete n closed . After yesterday's episode which set the wheels rolling for on coming months I think that though Shivika will not be seperated they would walk away from family . Shivay would not be leading a common mans life though ( my POV) ... His penance would be staying away from his brothers n family . They could be drawing parallels here Anika an orphan SSO has become one though he has everyone thus they creating a world of their own becoming each other's family n support system making his ' If you are with me I can deal with it all n more' come true .

They will tweak the All for one n One for all . Boy that would be beautiful to see if they really do it . Really do not care about what happens to Pinky after that have had my fill .

Am glad they are toning it down , streamlining it all and making something out of this nonsense but still am scared to hope after last 3 months ... ' Expect the unexpected' still scares me .

Rikara n Ruvya never watch so no comments . I can relate to them individually but not in pairs .

Just wishing that they balance everything n everyone n do justice to all lead pairs unlike past weeks .

Hope we get all we wish for n more n HS hamari chop na karde phir se :-(


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