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asya34

@asya34

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Posted: 8 years ago

#21

Haila Itna deep yeah!! very deep bro 😆

But baby as far as I know hash doesn't make u think like this 😆 that is true as well ... kya karen yaar!! ... I don't do hash nah! 😉

I would love to see this play out though i have my doubts on hash queen kush toh play out hoga .. kya hoga woh Harneet janey 😆

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asya34

@asya34

Dazzler

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Posted: 8 years ago

#22

OMG you spoke my mind, I penned down similar points on twitter. chalo!!! .. ek aur mere jaisa thinker jiski chop HS karney wali hai ... 😆

For me the third challenge was a hint towards future which is Vanvaas. I noticed that during biwi declaration Shivaay said Annika ka dil dukha to SSO se bura koi nahin hoga n this time he said Annika par vaar karna matlab Shivaay par vaar karna. yes ... the SSO has now become 'Just Shivvay' like his 'Sirf Annika'

After Pinky's OMM Shivaay has reiterated many times that if Annika is with him he can handle anything. That's also a way of getting rid of her insecurities n making Annika clear about her importance in his life. When they came back Dadi said this was for you realize each other's value. Absolutely correct

Then came the biggest turning point of love confession. Shivaay I felt after separation had become little insecure about his importance in her life. Pre separation he used to take her for granted sometimes and thought she'll not go anywhere but now he's scared of losing her, so his insecurities were addressed by Annika confesssing her love first. yes... I was actually glad that she did. She has become secure about her place in his life now after the proposal. He has suffered a major jolt not only with the realization that Annika could leave him but also with the realization that his mother is able to manipulate and plot in order to sabotage his marriage, relationship and his bond with Annika.
He is insecure not because he doubts Annika's love for him but is insecure because he knows that Annika is very vulnerable when it comes to anything about him. He has become her weakness that is being used to manipulate her to doing what people want of her.
The fact that Annika is willing to go to any lengths to sacrifice for him, he knows makes her very vulnerable to people, like his mother, using it to twist her arm. It is not insecurity that he feels. It is vigilance and over protectiveness towards Annika where Pinky is concerned.

Even if he hasn't given her three magical words yet but still she's very confident that he loves her and will take ages to tell her. Annika isn't insecure about her importance in his life.
True. She knows he loves her already. She does not need words and that was beautiful to see.

Then yesterday's episode was a give away for me that Shivaay will leave house because of Pinky. He told her that if you don't go then It'll go. Woh to jaane se rahi OM se so he'll leave.
It is what I feel as well.

Shakti told Pinky a bitter truth that everyone respected her only because she is SSO's mom n which she doesn't like much. She craves to get the importance and respect as herself n not as his mom only.
He was a status symbol to her more than her son. Like he said, "she taught him that every relationship was a deal but he never expected that he would be traded and used by her being her son."

Part of it is her problem with Annika.ShivOmRu Dadi Jaanvi Shakti love n respect Annika for her own identity as a person. So right now Pinky is like a raging bull who will definitely attack again but in a more nasty way. She'll have no regrets in trying to get rid of Annika just like Mrs Kapoor had planned on Lohri. very true

Annika's NDE might happen because of Pinky. This is one possibility. I don't think she will risk that because the finger will point directly to her. No one else has it in for Annika. Even Tej is affectionate towards her now and she is completely off Svets radar.

The other possibility is that I feel Shivaay still hasn't gone through the test of fire for his love. Annika's wish was that she wants to be number one in Some1's life. Pinky might help achieve that. Pinky will put her in a spot where he'll have to choose between family n his wife n this time he'll chose his wife. Remember Daksh said when it was time for you to choose between your wife n sister shockingly you chose your wife, something similar might happen here but in a larger scale. HS has a way of visiting old scenes n closing the loop, so before separation he chose his family n threw his wife out, but this time he'll choose his wife and he'll be so fed up with all this nonsense that he'll walk away. That'll be the final OMM of Pinky. yes this is possible.

Rudy will be the one to accompany his bhaiyya as he's truly his Bhabhi's lakshman devar. So, Rudy is given the challenge of being responsible n work hard. Also, remember Annika said humari jagah ko bharne ke liye koi to chahiye na about Om Gauri n that was a give away for me that they'll temporarily replace Shivika in OM. So even if these episodes look like fillers or fun loving but they have a lot of stuff going on n laying the foundations for future big tracks. true again

Shivika are a unit now, stronger than before so no question of separation again n separation would dilute the purpose of reunion n grand media proposal. But for sure lots of drama is coming up n Shivika wedding will happen but we'll be kept hanging till last minute, atleast that's what my experience says from watching four lions show. Even Arnav Khushi had similar situation.yes ... the marriage will bring about a new track for sure... I can feel it

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gumpchump

@gumpchump

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Posted: 8 years ago

#23

Originally posted by: Niyati_21
Bang on post Pearl... 👏

Just reposting wht i had posted on EDT

I have been thinking what is the thing that can shatter or break ShivOmRu????
Here i remember Svet in initial IB Promo... "Inki Lanka tab jalegi, jab inme se koi Vanvaas Jayega"

I smell Vanvaas here, & yest. Shivaay saying he'll leave in a scene with Pinky ... was it foreshadowing???

Back to what can raaz be??? Yest. Anika did not find the lock for those keys... The envelope was in some other cupboard & only seeing it Dadi got worried

What can letter hold? If she was so worried seeing the envelope , then that keys might hold something really huge?? & Svet knows it & she has come here for destroying Oberois... Money is not her motive

1) Obros are unaffected by Money, so raaz cannot be something related to Property/ Money, etc distribution

2) We hv seen illegitimacy too won't break them... Shivaay hide it frm Om & OmRu did the same - Illegitimacy track ruled out

So what can break/ Shatter them???

I feel partial raaz wud be out during wedding, just b4 it or just after wedding

Brilliant post 👏

Though can someone clarify, does Om know about daimaa / tia's mom video fiaco that Shivay was trying to hide - did that ever get resolved ? or is it still there ?

PS Also did Shivaay ever add two plus two with Omkara and Prinku's car accident and O's drugs ?

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Nirmala

@nim_var

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Posted: 8 years ago

#24

@Pearl, bang on post about the episodes that looked like fillers laying the foundation for the future tracks. The plot is thickening with the mystery envelope, the contents enough to douse the flickering flame of happiness in the Oberoi family. Anika, the elder bahu will hold the reins that will be seen slipping away from the Oberoi clan.

Om-Gauri had the blessings of the elder when he gave them the Shiv Parvati murti, so they are going to he keepers of the mansion in the absence of the some of the members.. Shivika or a few more, that remains to be seen. Gauri is also going to be the glue holding Om together as he is going to fall apart when Shivaay leaves, a progression in their tale. Their trail truly begins then, just like the divine couple, who underwent many trials and tribulations before being united as ONE.

rudra will have to grow up, work hard to support the family, all his frivolous habits put to rest, realizing the value of sweat and hard earned money. That will be his journey and Bhavya is showing the way.

Pinky is not going to give up without a fight and she does have a dirty plan in mind about the SECRET. The final arc in Pinky's utter devastation.

Svetlana, who has been wronged to bear such hatred for the Oberois, who keeps on trying, despite her failures, is making it enjoyable as is MT who is having a breeze playing the role of a fun loving Peter D'Souza from Goa. the silent communications with Jhanvi and with the others, a treat.

The family dynamics in full swing, all together at long last... something is definitely cooking as we are getting great scenes of all of them, with Dadi at the forefront. Do TejVi even know about the great Secret?

Missed anika for sure. Tomorrow seems to be a good one between ShivRu... the MU on becoming a Man, just like how they nailed the scene post the party, drunk... and seeing the room in disarray. That was perfect comedy by the duo.

Waiting to see Gauri dressed to kill...

@sxj16... wonderful post, enjoyed reading it thoroughly.

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yellomellow

@yellomellow

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Posted: 8 years ago

#25

Interesting theory.

Both Pinky's reveal and Sahil's Bua return were interesting tracks, but the execution and follow-up was bad. Completely agree there does seem to be a lot of foreshadowing of Pinky pushing Shivaay out the door. He has been relatively calm in dealing with her, but she is still plotting behind his back and won't give up 😆

Looks like the family will be separated by Svetlana or at least Shivaay from his family. It would be more interesting if it was an internal struggle, but Svetlana is back for a reason. I'm hoping Shivaay goes off on his own alone and Omru take the reins. Sending Rudra with Shivika would be a lost of an growing experience. Same goes with Om. This would be the perfect time for Shiv and OmRu to grow on their own without each other. If done right we could finally get 3 amazing stories that is about more than love. The same goes for the ladies.

Rudra gives into Tej and was willingly to get married for the family peace, but I can't see Om giving into Tej especially now that Svetlana is back. Om hates everything to do with Tej and that includes the family business. I don't blame him either. It would be interesting to see Daadi, Shakti, Jhanvi, Om, and Rudra working separately to protect their family. I want Prinku back too. Tej and Pinky are up in the air because they can't be trusted lol.

His NKK has been a blessing for Shivaay his whole life and I would love to see him succeed without it.

None of our theories ever come true, but its fun speculating what's going to happen lol.

Edited by yellomellow - 8 years ago

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-sakshi-

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Posted: 8 years ago

#26

Surely the current happenings at the OM, the tension between pinky shivaay and pinky's evil plans.. this all is setting the stage for the vanvaas track... the shivika stay at the chawl was a preview of that.. ya really wish they had not wrapped that up in one and a half episode.. we needed more of that.
Really hope the cvs. take this track nicely.. shivika dont have to live in chawl or a haveli .. it can be modern vanvaas.. they can live in a 2 bdh apt... a non luxurious one.. shivaay can take a good job. Anika too can go back to work ,, if Rudra accompanies he can be a good moral physical plus a humurous support .. surely he can help financially as he is already manning upand he will be a cute kabab mein haddi too at times .
Shivika relationship can really blossom
How Om handles the business.. this will be a challenge for him (chalo he will get to wear some nice clothes ) . He will get Gauri;s support and relation can get better

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hi50

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Posted: 8 years ago

#27

Great post Pearl..!! You may be right..!!

Pinky is up to something nasty again..!! The way she again and again says 'manhoos' to Annika is very cringe-worthy..!! I wonder her jealousy got such an extent that she is overlooking everyone and everything..!!! Does she think that in Annika leaves Shivaay will be the old SSO again? What a dumb woman..!!

I would not be happy if they show Shivaay in chawl ..!! He is a foreign educated person with so many connections and once Tej said that he is capable of establishing another empire if given the opportunity..!! So it would be utter nonsense if they show him moving in the crawl..!! I hate to see a poor SSO..!! 😭😭

Also why an evil should succeed? Vanvas was the wish for Svetlana, right? Why cant they show the brothers winning over the evil by staying together? That was also in the tagline, right? Keep your loved ones close and conquer the world..!! There they show three brothers..!! However the present situation indeed indicates Shivaay's departure ..!!

And if that happens, Rudra should not accompany, he spoils stuffs easily rather than being supportive..!! These days with Bhabya they show him very immature... I miss that determined and supportive Rudra like he is with Annika... also I fail to understand why they are showing a 23 year old boy turning into a mature person in this funny way, with Bhabya's entry.. he needs to get his degree first to be able to stand on himself, otherwise indeed plumber is the only way, he will never get a job as cop as well.!!! 😕

In vanvas track, if that at all happens, Shivika should be with each other in a decent place (not rich like Oberois but not as poor to live in the chawl)..

Also, I don't want Annika to be someway connected to the Oberoi..!! It'll be utter disturbing if the writer starts picking ideas from the forum... she should go by her own thoughts..!!! And if that means separation and evil games and smirking villains I don't want to watch IB for another year..!! They better build Annika's past story differently, by introducing additional 'positive' characters... may be during their 'vanvas track'...!!

Edited by hi50 - 8 years ago

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asya34

@asya34

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Posted: 8 years ago

#28

Originally posted by: nim_var
@Pearl, bang on post about the episodes that looked like fillers laying the foundation for the future tracks. The plot is thickening with the mystery envelope, the contents enough to douse the flickering flame of happiness in the Oberoi family. another track - another raaz ...lol

Anika, the elder bahu will hold the reins that will be seen slipping away from the Oberoi clan. ... maybe or maybe not because I see this more as between mother and son

Om-Gauri had the blessings of the elder when he gave them the Shiv Parvati murti, so they are going to he keepers of the mansion in the absence of the some of the members.. Shivika or a few more, that remains to be seen. ... that I see but again I am still trying to work out the RiKara equation and where the CV's are going with it

Gauri is also going to be the glue holding Om together as he is going to fall apart when Shivaay leaves, a progression in their tale. Their trail truly begins then, just like the divine couple, who underwent many trials and tribulations before being united as ONE. ... yes that is true ... Gauri will stand by Om but it is Om that is beyond me right now ... I am still trying to understand his hesitation about Gauri ... HS needs to stop doing her 'hash parties' and start making sense of RiKara

rudra will have to grow up, work hard to support the family, all his frivolous habits put to rest, realizing the value of sweat and hard earned money. That will be his journey and Bhavya is showing the way. true again

Pinky is not going to give up without a fight and she does have a dirty plan in mind about the SECRET. The final arc in Pinky's utter devastation. amen to that gurl 😃

Svetlana, who has been wronged to bear such hatred for the Oberois, who keeps on trying, despite her failures, is making it enjoyable as is MT who is having a breeze playing the role of a fun loving Peter D'Souza from Goa. the silent communications with Jhanvi and with the others, a treat. Yup 😊

The family dynamics in full swing, all together at long last... something is definitely cooking as we are getting great scenes of all of them, with Dadi at the forefront. Do TejVi even know about the great Secret? Maybe they do ... looks like Tej and Shakti, with all their differences, are 'as thick as thieves' as brothers

Missed anika for sure. Tomorrow seems to be a good one between ShivRu... the MU on becoming a Man, just like how they nailed the scene post the party, drunk... and seeing the room in disarray. That was perfect comedy by the duo. lol ... those two are always a riot 😆

Waiting to see Gauri dressed to kill... ... major disappointment with that today.. dress toh everyday ka tha

@sxj16... wonderful post, enjoyed reading it thoroughly.

Edited by asya34 - 8 years ago

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asya34

@asya34

Dazzler

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Posted: 8 years ago

#29

Interesting theory. Interesting but might get 'OMM-athed' on it for sure ... GulNeet have more more interesting and Bizzare ones ... lol 😆

Both Pinky's reveal and Sahil's Bua return were interesting tracks, but the execution and follow-up was bad. I agree. With Pinky at least the track or arc (whatever HS chooses to call the damn thing) is still not over so that we can overlook but with the Bua that whole scene was completely unnecessary unless some of it got scrapped.

Completely agree there does seem to be a lot of foreshadowing of Pinky pushing Shivaay out the door. He has been relatively calm in dealing with her, but she is still plotting behind his back and won't give up 😆 It is as though she is now testing to see how much she can get away with by being his mother and blood. She knows very well that he will stand by Family and blood no matter what and I feel that is what she is banking on to get her out of it if he finds out that she is behind it.

Her confidence to continue sabotaging their marriage and their relationship is borderline psychotic from what I am seeing. She has gone past the need to see reason to hate Annika and has become obsessed with wanting to eliminate her only because everyone favours Annika over her

His NKK has been a blessing for Shivaay his whole life and I would love to see him succeed without it. Me too. I would honestly like him to discover who 'Shivvay' - 'Just Shivvay' is and what he can achieve just being himself.

That might be the challenge that Pinky throws at him that would lead to him walking out. The fact that she bore him into the Oberoi house and name and made him who he is. She keeps flinging that in his face that she made him a success and the man he is today and that he owes her.

She might say 'My sacrifice, hardwork and my guidance made you who you otherwise you are were an average child without that and would have been an average man. Your Naam, Khoon and Khandan is what you are known by and that too was because I bore you into this Family. Without it you are nobody and a nothing.'

None of our theories ever come true, but its fun speculating what's going to happen lol. Oh! I don't care ... i love speculating with all the thinkers and shakers on this forum ... beats the crap we watch everyday that is spewed out in a hash filled high 🤣