Why Harneet Needs To Read This Request By The Fandom - Page 2

Originally posted by: shanry

Hear! Hear! I'm with you girl!

Originally posted by: blackorwhite

Sorry...Shivaay needs to beg now...😕 *sigh*

Personally, I think the Gazebo scene was beautifulll... Shivaay had such poignant dialogues... Anika said sooo much via her expressions...

"Mujhe Anika par bhi fakar hai aur Anika ke hone par bhi"

I thought this beautifully SUMMED up how much she means to me... This should be an answer to Anika's insecurity! 😊 And I personally think Anika fully understands Shivaay's unspoken words as well!! 😊

If Anika gave him a beautiful speech after the bullet scene, then he also gave a nice chand-suraj speech afterwards! 😊

But yes, I agree they do need to talk... about

1.Their past(separation)

2. Present(Pinky)

3. Future(their dreams) 😊

Also, They both need to tackle their demons...What I want now are situations which test both Anika-Shivaay... - Anika's insecurity... and Shivaay's trust...and then they both need to prove that they will keep their words... that they have learnt their lesson...

Because words might be important.. but actions reinforcing those said words are much much more important than them..😊

Originally posted by: napstermonster

Love you are right and I'm getting flack for using the word beg. Hyperbole I guess because what I mean is that there are no circumstances on earth that would prompt Shivaay to throw Omkara or Rudra out of his bedroom, much less his house. And yet his wife has been thrown out so many times she might as well keep a rental property close by. Go ahead and imagine Shivaay doing the jumping to the extreme reaction with anything his brothers do. Svetlana accuses Om of assault, baat will be solved in house. Rudra marries two different women randomly baat will be solved in house. But his wife has put him above herself, her world and not once has he put her EQUAL to his brothers in how he's treated her. Family bolti hai. Toh family ko beghar kardeti hai over one provocation, one time? Agar he had not tossed her and she had left herself, this would have been moot. But he did it. No woman who is even slightly self respecting will forget the feeling of that, even if she does forgive it,.even if she does engineer it. Because of that I wanted a little emotional distress from him. She had nowhere to go and for three months he didn't turn back and look to see how she was,.alive or dead. Yeah. So.

Originally posted by: napstermonster

I'm 99% sure the CVs have some intern who reads reaction, or who knows? maybe you can tweet this and, praise God, Harneet will see it for herself. Surely the genius Cat lady likes to see the effects of her hard work? So in case I'm right and one of the IB people are reading, please note-- we the audience need "the talk" more than Anika does. Here is a quick primer for what the next few weeks have to cover--and what we are all waiting for, much more than we care about the suhaag raat, frankly. What is that insanely important thing?

We are waiting for The Talk. Its one chance to deal with elements like:

Actual gaps in storytelling:

Did he stalk her by visiting the chawl every day/night or what?

Did he stop her from getting all those jobs?

Does she know she literally caused him to have a heart attack?

Why did he buy her goddamn chawl for god's sake? Give us a romantic or insanely in love reason. Chalega. But close that.

Did she ever tell him what happened at the dargah?

Why a bike? And highlights? Seriously? Can she at least tease him, please?

And emotional issues:

The whole Vikram thing brought one thing out into the open--how she is not sure in her heart, that he really wants her. She needs the words. She told him what to say to her once-- khidkitodh khubsoorat. But he went and did a love confession to OMKARA, confusing poor Om and us, equally. He might not be ready to say "I Love You." Okay. But she gave him a speech, after her bullet shot. He can use those words. Its not like he doesn't obsessively remember everything she ever says to him, word by word.

How much she was broken by the way he threw her out. This is huge. Yeah she engineered it, but how he did it, in one moment? She is NOT over that.One apology is not enough. He has to beg for that one. And promise that no matter what, his instinct will never again be to treat her as less than family, because that is what he did.

She said over and over again, that she had to throw herself out of his life, but she didn't quite believe he would LET HER DO it. Her insecurity about who she is. Her role in his life. Not when he's high on bhang. But soberly, into her eyes, so she gets it. That is something they have to address.

How much BOTH of them owe Omkara and Rudra (and Gauri and Bhavya) . I need words. I need tears. I need them both to say, out loud, to the best Shivika shippers-- thank you. To apologize for giving his brothers such a tough time via the separation and then the taadibaaz marriage nonsense. They suffered too.

His own reactions. His mom HAD HIM KIDNAPPED. He was in fear for his life. Come ON...where is the emotional trauma?

I don't think he's had enough time to process what a betrayal his mother did, because there is so much MORE, yeah? Its more than that. How about Nayantara, and the issue of Sahil being kidnapped, and Anika being called a s**ts daughter in the media? I want him to find out all this.

Pinky wont tell him. maybe he's got Khanna to do research on Pinky's bank records to see who she paid off at this time. Khanna found payments to Shivaay's orphanage (the one he bought because of Anika) and he gets the info from the matron there. Pinky left a mile wide trail. Now he knows who to look for.

I need him to reflect on all the times when he kind-of-sort-of trusted his mom over Anika. Sahil being a thief. The whole Tia thing. The hundred times when Pinky was vicious to her, said horrible words to her in front of him, and he let it fly--how about when Pinky threw Anika out of the hospital? He has to remember those times. No woman deserves that, and Anika is an angel, she deserves that even less. He has to say to her that he wont let those things happen again. And mean it.

He must revisit those WITH Pinky when he runs into her or Pinky tries to talk to him. There is much more to unpack there. She needs to know he's remembering everything, and he hates HER for what she did to Anika. That Anika didnt make these happen. Pinky did. It wont matter for Pinky, but Shivaay needs to say them to his mom, to make it clear to her. He remembers. That is his wife she did all that to. He remembers.

Please note-- We aren't interfering with storytelling. All this still gives Harneet a chance to take Pinky white, black, grey, whatever. But every married woman in her audience will stop clenching her teeth, and relax.

I was happy in his breakdown scene where he acknowledged how big a thing it was for someone like Tej and Janvi to silently let their eldest son be vilified and not immediately reveal about Shivaay at that time. That was the biggest "family" thing I've ever seen Tej do, for Shivaay, no less. I'd like Shivaay to thank Tej, and Jahnvi, for being real parents to him at that point, when they put their own kid down for him.

I guess, reading all this, that the Talk has to be with Anika AND Pinky. I'm not speaking for Pinky or wanting her to get her son back. Or even get Anika's help here. NO WAY.

But Shivaay needs to get the poison out of himself to heal, for himself, and to have a healthy marriage. And they haven't even touched on the hell they were both under, for 3 months, that they compounded by hurting each other with the Vikram-Ragini nonsense.

I want them to finally promise themselves, and us, that this is absolutely positively the last time Shivika get married, either to each other OR to other people.

Aur shaadis seh nahi sakhte, hum log. Aur kuch kahe ya na kahe-- ISKA guarantee wala pinky promise Shivika se kar do, yaar.

Originally posted by: blackorwhite

*sigh* The same thing again and again... I'm kind of tired of this... So, my short answer is I don't think he needs to beg.. but long answer is below...😆

He was wrong that he threw her out... No arguments there... He should have first tried to force her to tell the truth and then should have just left the room BUT she was wrong in emotionally manipulating him and not trusting their relationship and she should have left quietly instead of orchestrating this big emotional drama... Anika not taking any flak for engineering the whole thing is something I'm not a fan of..

He apologized earnestly... trusted his love... submitted to her...She apologized earnestly and agreed she will trust their relationship..

He was hurt but he gathered enough courage and asked her to marry him... She was hurt but she gathered enough trust in them and agreed to marry him...

I don't think he needs to beg for her forgiveness.. but yes he needs to cherish Anika.. not repeat his mistakes... He needs to prove that he is a man of his words... When they talk about the separation.. I want emotional distress from both ends... they can both apologize... but the fandom still asking for a Shivaay who needs to beg is something that I'm unable to digest...*sigh*...

You want him to throw Om and Rudy out for being falsely accused of a crime or marrying twice..LOL...😆 btw I don't think Rudra-Bhavya are actually married! 😆 I guess the fandom must also be complaining that Shivaay did not throw out Pinky.. *sigh* 😕

And I don't get it.. Why are relationships being pitted against relationships... Why should his love/trust for Anika be compared to his love/trust for his brothers...😕 Now he has to prove Anika is more important or as important as his brother? 😕 Does Anika needs to prove that he is as important as Sahil as well(I'm assuming Anika won't leave Sahil even if she is blackmailed to do so for his own good... she will fight the world for him...)? *sigh*

How do you know Shivaay did not turn back.. did not take care of her? He was in front of her house at night...

Anyways, personally.. I don't think Shivaay needs a solo forgiveness sessions... But anyways to each their own!