Bigg Boss 19 - Daily Discussion Topic - 13th Sep 2025 - WKV
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I think from what they showed today..they are trying to show that Shivaay cares for Annika..loves her too but still doesn't realize his love and the depth of his love.. he still follows his mind and focuses on facts or what he sees rather than following his heart which says Annika isn't the girl she was portraying to be..I wish Harneet WAS thinking that deep but I truly doubt it as I did not see anything that pointed to that realization. She is busy fangirling over Ragini and seems happy to focus on her psychotic issues with Annika getting Sivvay's attention and "Fatal Attraction' kind of obsessions with Shivvay, rather than giving any ShivIka growth. . One almost Family hug, with Annika and baby, and half a dozen vague lines do not show growth and progress enough for me to see Shivvay feeling any of those things.
Asking her to show the man to introspect is like asking her to make pigs fly'.
Frankly Ragini is the only one who Harneet has kept in character up till now, itna pyaar hai uss sey . Even Samar she has flipped and changed into a nice, sensitive and normal guy ..lol
Yes Shivvay feels a deep love for her, we all know that, but he is back to what he was when Annika was in his life - busy dealing and paying attention to everyone and everything except his own feelings about Annika and what he wants with respect to her, his marriage and what his stand is on it and most importantly his list of people with respect to priorities. Now that she is back he has time for everyone except her.As far as I am concerned, when she left him he was a better Shivvay towards her and with respect to living his life.
He thought about her incessantly, found excuses to hang outside her chawl, kept out of other people's affairs and did not go rescuing damsels in distress' blindly. He very sensibly offered to send a doctor and the police to handle those things then and for some strange reason now he seems to have lost all that common sense.
I feel her return has seen the return of the dumb Shivvay who is back to sorting out everyones problems, though they have a Family of their own, except his wife who is the real orphan here. Harneet seriously needs to stop smoking whatever it is she is smoking for the past 50+ episodes right now and start making some kind of sense with her writing.
With so much overload of baby today there was barely anything to show between Shivika. Don't get me wrong - the baby is cute and adorable but I still failed to see how 2 weeks of baby helped any of the 3 couples learn anything in-depth about each other.
What was the point of 'baby' still evades my understanding?The fact that Om mentions that he is stupid to not realize that Annika is the best wife and would be the best mother.. and then told him that he still waiting for the part where his heart finally takes over his mind kinda makes me feel that is how the writer is taking this track..
Yes. I can see that is one of the issues that has been at the back of Shivvay's mind but they have bigger ones to deal with right now and those need to be addressed first. His heart will take over his mind only when the separation pain is addressed first. There it was the heart that was wounded when she broke his trust and mind that was tricked by the way she laid the facts out to manipulate him to react exactly how she wanted him to.
I am really curious how Harneet is going to work herself out of this corner she has painted herself into ...lol
He still has not recovered from that shock and pain to be able to fully trust her again from what I gather.
So they need Annika to address that first and heal that wound so that the old trust returns while they need to ensure that while she does that he does not feel like a 'dumb jackass' for opening himself to her and lavishing her with unwavering trust while she used that in return to manipulate him. Very tricky as far as I can see unless Harneet is a whiz and surprises me.
I feel they will not address the fight they had 3 months ago..
The separation day was very very brutal for both of them and that itself is a major hurdle that needs to be overcome. Neither walked away from it untouched and unscathed. Both drew blood and both suffered fatal wounds. Both still carry those scars and those wounds that each is now pulling the other up for.
You really think something this major between a husband and wife, with the dynamics that ShivIka has, is going to be brushed under the carpet by either one of them!!!! I think not.
If I am not mistaken this is just the calm before the storm. I am almost ready for a major private showdown. They will have to address that at some point before they actually move ahead.
Besides, Annika still feels that he has hang ups about his NKK and that his expectations regarding that are still the same. He, for his part, needs to understand if NKK does really matter to him still with regards to either himself, her or their children before he decides what he wants to do.
That is what Om addressed today. That is what he is asking Shivvay to do. He is asking him to look closely at himself not Annika.
and Pinky's exposure is still being postponed until Shivaay is totally madly in love with Annika and starts following his heart.. the way this track has been going on until now.. I don't see Pinky getting exposed anytime soon.. and looks like she isn't even involved in Shivika's story right now and just busy digging her own grave by now irritating Gauri..
lol ... poor Gauri. I have no idea what Pinky is doing tormenting that poor girl and what Harneet is trying to achieve here. If Om ever overhears Pinky saying what she does to gauri, he is going to burst a blood vessel more because of what she pulled with ShivIka than for insulting Gauri. This is no Shivvay here this is Om who is almost a carbon copy of Annika. This crap does not matter to him.
Pinky's exposure is never happening as Harneet likes keeping her in the arc and ShivIka on a loop. That is the extent of her creative mind.
I dont know how I feel about this track right now.. I mean if they are actually going towards making Shivaay the ultimate ishqbaaz who believes in what his heart says rather than NKK or what his mind says basically.. it may not be bad.. we were all pissed by the way Shivaay had reacted to Annika after her antics 3 months ago.. becoz even after knowing her for so long he never really understood her and her love for him and his family.. he just saw what she did at face value and broke their marriage.. but now they are trying to show him falling in love with her..and her alone..falling in love with her for who she is.. he knows she is a good bahu and a good wife.. and from today's Shivkara conversation he has started thinking about how good she is as a mother too..
No clue because Ragini is in the spotlight again now that baby is out f OM. So either baby or Ragini or some other person is being given SS but ShivIka is where they are inspite of all these other catalysts. They are moving at slower than a snails pace in their growth.
I think I may be okay with them accepting each other for who they are.. and falling in love.. basically like Annika fell in love with Shivaay even with his flaws.. it would be good if Shivaay also fell totally in love with Annika without actually knowing the whole truth about the extent to which she sacrificed herself for him and his family.. that would show that he has finally changed.. he loves her for who she is and sees a future with her..and then Pinky's truth and his illegitimacy truth may come out when he has his wife and brothers to support him..
If Shivvay never knows about her sacrifice then that would be a sad thing, not only for Annika but for him as well. It will mean Annika sacrificed and will never receive the acknowledgement but only bitterness for that memory she gave him and Shivvay will always carry the hurt of rejection and refusal for laying his heart at her feet.
Even if the truth comes out after he has accepted her and chosen to forget the events of that horrible day it will be fine but it has to come out or they will always have that hanging over their heads.
The episodes have been all over the place for the past week.. I wasn't very happy with yesterday's episode also.. but the fact that Shivaay is still behaving dumb when it comes to Ragini shows that he still believes only in what he sees.. just the facts that are presented to him.. I cannot blame him totally for that though as I feel Harneet has made him dumber than he is for her writing convenience. She has made Shivvay changeable and he is not that.
Yes he trusts easily and works only with facts and that is why he fails to see what Annika is seeing most times because he accepts most things at face value unless given reason to doubt.
But if he deals with facts then why is he not using certain facts that do not ring true just like Annika and Bhavya are. For example the fact she keeps saying Sidharth thinks they are engaged. Who told him? How did he find out? How did he send a video of them to his Family? Why make a video and defame a girl you want to marry with a divorced man? Why are her brother and mother not calling him about this and saying they will handle it?
These are things that the writer has made inconsistent about him ... his character is one that does question and deal with facts. So you see we see different Shivvay's depending on how the writer wants him to be that day.
There are many such things that make him look like a Pappu' and I do not appreciate that she is doing that just to move her story forward and drag this whole separation like her lovely beautiful Arc.
and that is where his growth lies.. he needs to start thinking from his heart.. trust instincts.. and to trust his instincts he needs to start having instincts..like Annika does.. like Rudy does.. basically he needs to start thinking from his heart and that is where his growth will be in terms of his thought process and his relationship..
He needs to gel both heart and mind not just use his heart and yes that is true.
Bravo! You penned what I had been planning to say! Word to word! Right now, they are portraying Shivaay as the most stupid man on the planet! With not an iota of commom sense!
They better spruce up his actions and character! Hasnt he been burned once by Tia?
Awesome post! I think we all had enough of this haphazard writing and her never-ending arcs.
Gosh i am so sick of the words arc and loops thanks to the writer over using both
Completely agree with you the last 3 weeks did nothing for the show. After the merge, the show has been all over the place and the characters more inconsistent than usual. I'm not sure what the writers are doing anymore. It's like a bizarre universe where the characters are the same, but the separation didn't happen and random comedy took over. The first week there was still some anger and hurt from both of them then it all took a backseat for the convenience of the track. Exactly!!! This is a couple that went through such a painful separation but both are behaving as if it was merely a lovers spat. Does the writer even understand the pain she wrote and it's implications on a marriage like ShivIka's ?? After the leap and merger we are getting some random comedy in the name of IB. None of the progress we were promised is seen and the couple are more interested in playing games rather than actually talk it out.
Did Shivvay really need Om to be mature enough to point out that they need to talk?? Tell Ragini to take a break for a few days from her everyday attendance at the OM and focus on your own damn issues. If that woman does not step out Sid will not get to her. Hand her responsibility over to her brother. You said you were going to get engaged - you are not engaged yet so Annika will not find that strange. Besides she will understand it as a brother looking after his sister so the act can still remain.
They are testing the patience of they audience who is getting pretty bored and impatient from what I can understand. They better work on the ShivIka talking it out angle
The villains were never an issue for me. I don't like the rebooting of old tracks where the characters behave and react the way they did in the past while learning nothing. The writers seem to forget some of us have been watching the show for a year now so its impossible to ignore all the progress the characters made for the sake of the track. Shivaay has learned nothing from Tia or spending all that time with Anika. Anika has learned nothing about Shivaay and what value she holds in his life. The difference between then and now is their fights were real and legitimate in the past but now it's all forced just to keep Ragini around. We could have gotten better formed conflicts instead of Anika saving Shivaay again from another vamp. ha! ha! ... the never ending loop that she is conveniently on
Valid question what did the baby track do? Absolutely nothing. The perfect wife and perfect mother comment, which was sweet made absolute no sense because he already knew that fact for months now and communicated it to Rudra. Did the writers forget this? I really loved that scene because he made a promise to himself, her, and Rudra that she would always be happy and wouldn't let her suffer anymore. What's the point of rehashing obstacles he overcame months ago? Anika might not know how far he has come, but the audience does. It seems like a TRP gimmick to me. Shivaay has flaws that should be addressed, but NKK isn't one of them anymore. It's a shame the writers are discrediting their own character and the journey he made to get where he is now for a silly track. Spot On!! That is exactly what I feel as well.
What the writers should have done use the baby to highlight his longing and the loss he felt over the past 3 months. His hurt about her actions, his disappointment in letting his anger get the best of him, or his sadness at not being able to keep his promise. It seems like a copout to put all the blame on Shivaay again using the NKK obsession he overcame months ago while Anika gets a pass because of a previous comment he made. Where is her guilt for hurting him? She did it to protect him, but she still hurt him. Why isn't she apologizing? Why isn't she trying to make up for her mistakes? When will she start fighting for her own happiness instead of conceding without a fight? He can start to see past his hurt when she acknowledges she did in fact hurt him. Ahh! Girl apparently we should not be asking these questions because the writer can flip anytime ... I have asked these over and over again but it seems the writer suffers from amnesia ... she cannot remember her own past plots. The stuff you said about Annika was all mentioned in one of my posts the day after she returned to the OM and started flaunting about her fiance and going to dinner with him. You rip the mans heart out and then you do a 'jig' on it just to bring back his Taddi?? How does bruising his pride and his feelings bring back his Taddi? Pray tell as I am very stumped by this
They are back in each other's lives with many issues that need to be addressed now isn't the time for comedy fillers lol. The writers need to sit down and think about their story because right now its not going anywhere nor does it make sense. We can ask but ain't no one listening sista through that haze of weed that is being smoked 😆