The Empty episodes that are dubbed the Filler

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credit to Maverick for all questions in purple 😉

I think from what they showed today..they are trying to show that Shivaay cares for Annika..loves her too but still doesn't realize his love and the depth of his love.. he still follows his mind and focuses on facts or what he sees rather than following his heart which says Annika isn't the girl she was portraying to be..

I wish Harneet WAS thinking that deep but I truly doubt it as I did not see anything that pointed to that realization. She is busy fangirling over Ragini and seems happy to focus on her psychotic issues with Annika getting Sivvay's attention and "Fatal Attraction' kind of obsessions with Shivvay, rather than giving any ShivIka growth. . One almost Family hug, with Annika and baby, and half a dozen vague lines do not show growth and progress enough for me to see Shivvay feeling any of those things.

Asking her to show the man to introspect is like asking her to make pigs fly'.
Frankly Ragini is the only one who Harneet has kept in character up till now, itna pyaar hai uss sey . Even Samar she has flipped and changed into a nice, sensitive and normal guy ..lol

Yes Shivvay feels a deep love for her, we all know that, but he is back to what he was when Annika was in his life - busy dealing and paying attention to everyone and everything except his own feelings about Annika and what he wants with respect to her, his marriage and what his stand is on it and most importantly his list of people with respect to priorities. Now that she is back he has time for everyone except her.

As far as I am concerned, when she left him he was a better Shivvay towards her and with respect to living his life.

He thought about her incessantly, found excuses to hang outside her chawl, kept out of other people's affairs and did not go rescuing damsels in distress' blindly. He very sensibly offered to send a doctor and the police to handle those things then and for some strange reason now he seems to have lost all that common sense.

I feel her return has seen the return of the dumb Shivvay who is back to sorting out everyones problems, though they have a Family of their own, except his wife who is the real orphan here. Harneet seriously needs to stop smoking whatever it is she is smoking for the past 50+ episodes right now and start making some kind of sense with her writing.

With so much overload of baby today there was barely anything to show between Shivika. Don't get me wrong - the baby is cute and adorable but I still failed to see how 2 weeks of baby helped any of the 3 couples learn anything in-depth about each other.
What was the point of 'baby' still evades my understanding?

The fact that Om mentions that he is stupid to not realize that Annika is the best wife and would be the best mother.. and then told him that he still waiting for the part where his heart finally takes over his mind kinda makes me feel that is how the writer is taking this track..

Yes. I can see that is one of the issues that has been at the back of Shivvay's mind but they have bigger ones to deal with right now and those need to be addressed first. His heart will take over his mind only when the separation pain is addressed first. There it was the heart that was wounded when she broke his trust and mind that was tricked by the way she laid the facts out to manipulate him to react exactly how she wanted him to.

I am really curious how Harneet is going to work herself out of this corner she has painted herself into ...lol

He still has not recovered from that shock and pain to be able to fully trust her again from what I gather.

So they need Annika to address that first and heal that wound so that the old trust returns while they need to ensure that while she does that he does not feel like a 'dumb jackass' for opening himself to her and lavishing her with unwavering trust while she used that in return to manipulate him. Very tricky as far as I can see unless Harneet is a whiz and surprises me.

I feel they will not address the fight they had 3 months ago..

The separation day was very very brutal for both of them and that itself is a major hurdle that needs to be overcome. Neither walked away from it untouched and unscathed. Both drew blood and both suffered fatal wounds. Both still carry those scars and those wounds that each is now pulling the other up for.

You really think something this major between a husband and wife, with the dynamics that ShivIka has, is going to be brushed under the carpet by either one of them!!!! I think not.

If I am not mistaken this is just the calm before the storm. I am almost ready for a major private showdown. They will have to address that at some point before they actually move ahead.

Besides, Annika still feels that he has hang ups about his NKK and that his expectations regarding that are still the same. He, for his part, needs to understand if NKK does really matter to him still with regards to either himself, her or their children before he decides what he wants to do.

That is what Om addressed today. That is what he is asking Shivvay to do. He is asking him to look closely at himself not Annika.

and Pinky's exposure is still being postponed until Shivaay is totally madly in love with Annika and starts following his heart.. the way this track has been going on until now.. I don't see Pinky getting exposed anytime soon.. and looks like she isn't even involved in Shivika's story right now and just busy digging her own grave by now irritating Gauri..

lol ... poor Gauri. I have no idea what Pinky is doing tormenting that poor girl and what Harneet is trying to achieve here. If Om ever overhears Pinky saying what she does to gauri, he is going to burst a blood vessel more because of what she pulled with ShivIka than for insulting Gauri. This is no Shivvay here this is Om who is almost a carbon copy of Annika. This crap does not matter to him.

Pinky's exposure is never happening as Harneet likes keeping her in the arc and ShivIka on a loop. That is the extent of her creative mind.

I dont know how I feel about this track right now.. I mean if they are actually going towards making Shivaay the ultimate ishqbaaz who believes in what his heart says rather than NKK or what his mind says basically.. it may not be bad.. we were all pissed by the way Shivaay had reacted to Annika after her antics 3 months ago.. becoz even after knowing her for so long he never really understood her and her love for him and his family.. he just saw what she did at face value and broke their marriage.. but now they are trying to show him falling in love with her..and her alone..falling in love with her for who she is.. he knows she is a good bahu and a good wife.. and from today's Shivkara conversation he has started thinking about how good she is as a mother too..

No clue because Ragini is in the spotlight again now that baby is out f OM. So either baby or Ragini or some other person is being given SS but ShivIka is where they are inspite of all these other catalysts. They are moving at slower than a snails pace in their growth.

I think I may be okay with them accepting each other for who they are.. and falling in love.. basically like Annika fell in love with Shivaay even with his flaws.. it would be good if Shivaay also fell totally in love with Annika without actually knowing the whole truth about the extent to which she sacrificed herself for him and his family.. that would show that he has finally changed.. he loves her for who she is and sees a future with her..and then Pinky's truth and his illegitimacy truth may come out when he has his wife and brothers to support him..

If Shivvay never knows about her sacrifice then that would be a sad thing, not only for Annika but for him as well. It will mean Annika sacrificed and will never receive the acknowledgement but only bitterness for that memory she gave him and Shivvay will always carry the hurt of rejection and refusal for laying his heart at her feet.

Even if the truth comes out after he has accepted her and chosen to forget the events of that horrible day it will be fine but it has to come out or they will always have that hanging over their heads.

The episodes have been all over the place for the past week.. I wasn't very happy with yesterday's episode also.. but the fact that Shivaay is still behaving dumb when it comes to Ragini shows that he still believes only in what he sees.. just the facts that are presented to him.. I cannot blame him totally for that though as I feel Harneet has made him dumber than he is for her writing convenience. She has made Shivvay changeable and he is not that.

Yes he trusts easily and works only with facts and that is why he fails to see what Annika is seeing most times because he accepts most things at face value unless given reason to doubt.

But if he deals with facts then why is he not using certain facts that do not ring true just like Annika and Bhavya are. For example the fact she keeps saying Sidharth thinks they are engaged. Who told him? How did he find out? How did he send a video of them to his Family? Why make a video and defame a girl you want to marry with a divorced man? Why are her brother and mother not calling him about this and saying they will handle it?

These are things that the writer has made inconsistent about him ... his character is one that does question and deal with facts. So you see we see different Shivvays depending on how the writer wants him to be that day.

There are many such things that make him look like a Pappu' and I do not appreciate that she is doing that just to move her story forward and drag this whole separation like her lovely beautiful Arc.

and that is where his growth lies.. he needs to start thinking from his heart.. trust instincts.. and to trust his instincts he needs to start having instincts..like Annika does.. like Rudy does.. basically he needs to start thinking from his heart and that is where his growth will be in terms of his thought process and his relationship..

He needs to gel both heart and mind not just use his heart and yes that is true.

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Pearl, a big hug to you for making a post after ages. SO much has been shown and we were over analyzing I felt at some point during the last few days. We did get some meaningful scenes but some of them fell flat. HS is not upto her usual standards, busy sametoing the raita of ipk3 I suppose. 😆

Whatever, the baby track has been wrapped up... we had some lovely premises setup...again they fell far short of our expectations, like the dinner arranged for Shivika in the store room.. or their convos when Shivaay cornered Anika before Bhavya interrupted them... i am on a ranting spree... 😆😆

I thought it was best to take it one scene at a time n watch with a detached mindset. Guess most of us are doing that these days. Loved the subtle gestures that was shown between Shivika, like the way his hand lingered on Anika's shoulder when he covered her up n Pari or when Anika stuffed her ears when he was singing to Pari..these two are beyond adorable. uff...

With so much overload of baby today there was barely anything to show between Shivika. Don't get me wrong - the baby is cute and adorable but I still failed to see how 2 weeks of baby helped any of the 3 couples learn anything in-depth about each other.

What was the point of 'baby' still evades my understanding

The 3 couples had lessons in time management, what else, that and accepting a baby without thinking of NKK etc...as one of their own. Also I found the explanation by the mom rather lame... written in a hurry..put a guy in a monkey suit n voila..the Saxenas. 🤣 If you see, all through Pari's stay, it was all about scheduling her care. Lesson 101 on that. Finally Anika jumped in on the bandwagon of Pari n we saw Shivaay making moon eyes at his 'perfect' family that he wants but will not acknowledge. 😕 yup..the possibility of pigs flying is certain before we get any meaningful Shivika scenes or Ponky's exposure. 😃

He still has not recovered from that shock and pain to be able to fully trust her again from what I gather.

So they need Annika to address that first and heal that wound so that the old trust returns while they need to ensure that while she does that he does not feel like a 'dumb jackass' for opening himself to her and lavishing her with unwavering trust while she used that in return to manipulate him. Very tricky as far as I can see unless Harneet is a whiz and surprises me.

I feel they will not address the fight they had 3 months ago..

The separation day was very very brutal for both of them and that itself is a major hurdle that needs to be overcome. Neither walked away from it untouched and unscathed. Both drew blood and both suffered fatal wounds. Both still carry those scars and those wounds that each is now pulling the other up for.

Shivaay is showing tadi n also wants Anika to admit that he matters first, explain why, while she is not budging from her stance... why oh why...lock them up and throw the key away like they did in the jungle.. we atleast got some fab convos then.

The score is even for Shivika, both have broken the trust placed in the other, start anew. At some point they do need to talk about what happened or we might get a 5 minute FB scene where Shivaay knows it all. That will be the dumps. the scars and wounds that each had from that fateful day are slowly healing by seeing the other n sharing some moments. why is Anika so surprised when Shivaay touches her?? He has always grabbed her arm even before marriage n he is doing the same... get over it girl..or you are never going to have your own lil Pari soon. Was waiting for dadi to say something about grand kids, she was silent for ONCE n so was PONKY having a constipated expression on her face during the whole pari bye bye rona dhona session. 😭

That is what Om addressed today. That is what he is asking Shivvay to do. He is asking him to look closely at himself not Annika.

Love this line here, he is asking Shivaay to take a look inside his heart n see what his mind is refusing to acknowledge. She is a good woman, period, made for him n will care for him/his family selflessly. In return she wants your respect n that from his family. Is that too much to ask? No, not at all considering the sacrifices she has made and as a woman, she deserves that n more. I must say that Shakti looked pleased with having his bahu back in the house, no complaints from him. Explore his relation with kameeni n Pinky...

ol ... poor Gauri. I have no idea what Pinky is doing tormenting that poor girl and what Harneet is trying to achieve here.

Pinky is avenging Jhanvi's insult of her n shows her petty mind, mean spiritedness that is all. She can't be happy for others nor can she see someone happy. All in the family know that she has a razor sharp tongue that is going to cut her to ribbons one day. I hope it happens. She is digging her own grave by being mean to Gauri. She has a thing for people without NKK...let us see..she fawned over Tia/Nagini as they came from rich..NKK families n how did they turn out to be..does not matter at all, neither does her son's happiness. She even taunted Gauri of her son Shivaay keeping her status high.. her pride.. flying high. That is going to crash n burn soon. Jhanvi still talks to her politely considering she knows what she did to separate Shivika. I think post the Tej-Lana..fiasco.. the insecurities/jealousies are coming out, back to square one like at the very start of IB, where Pinky is J of Jhanvi n her status as badi bahu in the house. I think she just craves that title n enjoys belittling people from middle class. 🤢 was thinking of making a post... 😆

Even if the truth comes out after he has accepted her and chosen to forget the events of that horrible day it will be fine but it has to come out or they will always have that hanging over their heads.

Yes, even if Shivaay falls for Anika all over again, they have to clear the air on that fateful day, that will mar their fresh start. He can't forgive or forget easily n Anika has this power over him that both don't realize. How much she has caused him to change, to become a better person. As he said, only they both can tolerate each other.. jhelna right. 😆

There are many such things that make him look like a Pappu' and I do not appreciate that she is doing that just to move her story forward and drag this whole separation like her lovely beautiful Arc.

Yup, HS has lost it n is making pappu out of us all. 😆 throwing us a few bones and we are grabbing that as well. 🤣 Got knows her arc n her archaic insane plot of the whacko Nagini who deserves to be locked up n the key thrown into the loch. 🤣 We might get a repeat of the D Horror show. Yikes...

In the mean while waiting for Shivaay to discover his LOST Brains & using the grey cells he has. 😆

I am pasting what I wrote in AY's thread.

3 scenes struck me the most, obviously the Shivika scene with Pari in the bathroom, the RiKara-Ma convo and the Shiv_Om convo. It is good to see the soft, caring Om, who does not shy away from speaking the truth be it to Shivaay or Gauri's Ma.

Shivika convo was real and both expressed what was in their hearts without any layers covering it. The raw naked truth for the other to see, no matter what turmoil they have been through or whether their relation has a name, none of it matters. The other half matters, they are 2 halves of a whole. They exposed that side today and both speaking with HAQ and with their voice breaking was just awesome.

Anika is back to their room/bed like a homing pigeon and Shivaay could not take his eyes off the spectacle that was presented. he could have had that, it was crushed by the same woman. An irony and Om giving him a nudge in the right direction.

Om declaring that Gauri is different but not of lesser status due to her lack of education was too sweet. He is able to see the shine under the grime he had tarred her with. Gauri is falling for this Om now, the one who speaks gently, respectfully and showing his softer side.

Rudy was good too, when he was yelling at Bhavya... his ego, his heart is bruised poor Rudy baba.
Special mention of NM who was brilliant in the goodbye scene, LM crying so much... he was such a teddy bear... undone by a little baby who wrapped all the 3 Obros around her little finger.

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Posted: 8 years ago

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Bang on

And all I have to say is a sensible post as always pearl

Have so much to say but here goes my feeble attempt

1) both the characters keep flipping as if they are bipolar lol

2) they still dont have any sense to try and sort their issues. i am a bit more lenient with shivaay on this as he doesnt know the truth - anika - less said the better. maha level of character butchering going on

3) u are right only ragini is consistent - shows harneet's love for weirdos like her - makes sense to me as she can easily write about them then a regular normal relationship. Well she is a friend and is supposed to be his fiance in front of Anika - so he continues with his act - fine get it even though it is more childish than what we did to get dates during high school proms - chalo pass diya but the main problem I have isnt him not saying anything in front of Anika..its that even when Anika isnt around he doesnt tell Rags to stop taunting Anika or as a matter of fact his own brothers, bhabhi anyone. what happened to family man shivaay

4) and these random lollipop scenes that are so rejoicing😆- sorry but can i laugh at the nonsense as anyone who has been in a real relationship will know that nothing like what they are showing on screen will happen till the elephant in the room is addressed. clearly harneet has 0 sense about real equations and some of her hyper harmonal fan girls are the same based on twitter reactions😆. no two exs go on date after date even if it is a set up with so many MUs to clear

5) no girl is as spineless as anika in real life or so i hope

6) and no buisness man of the year is as brainless as shivaay. its cringe fest to watch them onscreen these days and its coming from a shivika fan as there is no f**king flow

PS: this whole separation which was not needed caused this. i was hoping against hope that they will somehow fix it by now. make shivika talk - clear atleast one MU, just one and it would make 5% of the sense to me but nope - they are acting like nothing happened - dear lord oh lord. as we discussed, gul needs to take the reigns back and give her a basic plot to do screenplay on otherwise we will keep getting this contrived version which is not worth even reading about forget watching

PPS: Mannie who is mocking and bullying u sweetie - ignore them no need to talk to such people - it's just a show, let it be their obsession ;)

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Pearl, I love you for this post! Thank you 🤗

For the past two weeks Ive been feeling very detached from this show. I've not been able to explain it well in words why. Your post has explained why.

I'm so glad I'm not the only one feeling this way about Shivaay and Shivika. Whenever I nit pick at these details, I've been told by some mul police that I should just chill, turn a blind eye to it and basically enjoy the lolipops 🤔

I dont want to say anymore... just again thanks for this :)

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cestlavie

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Posted: 8 years ago

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THIS👏!!!!!!!!

Girl, you nailed it...I seriously hope the cvs see this post.

I've become so detached from the show and it's painful to think IB kya tha aur kya ho gaya!!!

Hope harneet starts to pay more attention to IB...

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Awesome post as always!!! 😊 Totally agree with everything you have said.. thanks for this.. lol you have brought out all our frustrations with the Shivika track in a perfect write up!! 😆

Btw.. just to clarify on this part: If Shivvay never knows about her sacrifice then that would be a sad thing, not only for Annika but for him as well. It will mean Annika sacrificed and will never receive the acknowledgement but only bitterness for that memory she gave him and Shivvay will always carry the hurt of rejection and refusal for laying his heart at her feet.

Even if the truth comes out after he has accepted her and chosen to forget the events of that horrible day it will be fine but it has to come out or they will always have that hanging over their heads.

I didnt mean that he wont come to know about Anika's sacrifice.. and I totally agree with you..that is not possible after such a huge fall out.. all Im saying is about my observations regarding the writer..she seems to be hell bent on dragging this nonsense for as long as she can and she will drag this revelation until they are at a point where they are open about their feelings and have a showdown or something..

All my questions were regarding what is Harneet trying to show no matter how badly it is coming out.. I am just trying to understand where this supposedly awesome writer wants the story to go.. Like you pointed out.. the past 2-3 weeks have been an utter nonsense track..nothing properly adds on to any growth for Shivika.. they are still stuck in the same limbo except probably slowly softening towards each other a little.. but they may just again start bickering at each other without any reason like they have been doing for the past month..

I have just not been able to make any sense as to why are they making both Shivaay and Annika play so dumb and not use their brains.. Which is why I am trying to make sense of what the writer is even trying to portray..The way she is taking the track I feel the confrontation may be the last part in reuniting them.. not the first.. instead of addressing their issues they seem to be focused on some tangential stuff altogether..

Lol this arc has become never ending.. Im still hoping they will do something about this now that the baby is gone.. for the past 3 weeks we just had random episodes while both were being just idiots for most of the time.. but Im hoping trps will bring some sense into the writer now.. I dont see the show surviving if they do not bring some sense into this track now.. 😆

Nothing makes sense right now.. and if they just keep having lollipop scenes with no proper talk / confrontation between Shivika I dont think they will be able to sustain the show any longer!!

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asya34

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Pearl, I love you for this post! Thank you 🤗 U R most welcome love ... I ranted on about everything that was bothering me ...lol

For the past two weeks Ive been feeling very detached from this show. I've not been able to explain it well in words why. Your post has explained why.
That happens when the writer is not quite there when she is writing and is high on something really expensive and good ... when she comes down from that high we get sensible tracks that actually flow and when she is on that high we get her dope induced writing 😉
She is detached from moh- maya of this world and hence gives the 'detached tracks' 🤣

I'm so glad I'm not the only one feeling this way about Shivaay and Shivika. Whenever I nit pick at these details, I've been told by some mul police that I should just chill, turn a blind eye to it and basically enjoy the lolipops 🤔
Yep! I know what you mean and that is why I am refraining from making any posts right now unless I reply to a PM from Maverick who very graciously agrees to share our thoughts with us on a post I make.
Lollipops do not satisfy people like us because that is all they are - lollipops to shut the kid up from asking the pertinent and logical questions about what the hell is going on here and what exactly am I supposed to be watching.

As I said 'baby Pari' was adorable and cute but what was the point of all the over whelming emotions we saw all the couples portray for the past few episodes?
That they are good people who love children and have emotions? That someday they will be ready to be good parents but right now they need to sort their own crap that each has in their relationship?

As for the impact of the baby on Shivvay in particular I saw none. What was achieved from her entering his life?
That Shivvay is willing to accept illegitimate Oberoi children but not other ones? How does that help ShivIka progress and grow?
That he found out that he actually gets along with and loves kids? Ahem!! that was not needed since he did bring OmRu up himself and Sahil practically eats out of his hand (speaking of which where is the boy??)
That he sees Annika is good with children? Not necessary again because he himself admitted that she single-handedly brought Sahil up.

I dont want to say anymore... just again thanks for this :) And again you are most welcome my dear :) Thank you for replying as well :)

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Posted: 8 years ago

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THIS👏!!!!!!!!

Girl, you nailed it...I seriously hope the cvs see this post. I hope so too 😉

I've become so detached from the show and it's painful to think IB kya tha aur kya ho gaya!!!

Hope harneet starts to pay more attention to IB... ... and writing logical stuff that actually deals with the 3 couples instead of all the unnecessary diversions that amount up to nothing in the end ... how many more Arc's does she plan to make ..lol

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Right on target you hit the nail Pearl ...that is why I said you should take over IB writing ... then may be we can hope for a streamlined , sensible n true to character show .
That said I have a question ( did not watch Indian TV for last 10yrs) IB being my first show ... is HS really a writer...meaning did she write ever before ??its just that I Think my first grader can tell a better story .

Ragini n Her family why are they in the show ??? Before this nonsense track there were enough strings n ties to be unraveled without adding on .

Watched today's episode after seperation ... did not feel the connect ... none of the characters are same or sane ... the Shivika magic is gone ...no ashes even to resurrect them from... total disconnect and everything seemed so forced. Do not care about love romance etc at this juncture I could not even find what was there in the first 100 episodes...
With what's being shown with Rags n other nonsense gang I do not even understand what kind of reunion they are planning with so much unsaid n unresolved ... this is where I feel the pain of connecting with something so good to see it turned to crap for what ???

You are right Gulneet need to get off what ever they are smoking to streamline this wreck they created . Rant over ...how successful do you think they would be in rebuilding Shivika, Shivay ,Anika and all others they destroyed just to add in The cop n Rags gang because GUL felt the need.
Hope they come out of this abysmal pit they have dug themselves into without burning IB, the actors n characters and us all 😕 .

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Awesome post as always!!! 😊 Totally agree with everything you have said.. thanks for this.. lol you have brought out all our frustrations with the Shivika track in a perfect write up!! 😆

Btw.. just to clarify on this part: If Shivvay never knows about her sacrifice then that would be a sad thing, not only for Annika but for him as well. It will mean Annika sacrificed and will never receive the acknowledgement but only bitterness for that memory she gave him and Shivvay will always carry the hurt of rejection and refusal for laying his heart at her feet.

Even if the truth comes out after he has accepted her and chosen to forget the events of that horrible day it will be fine but it has to come out or they will always have that hanging over their heads.

I didnt mean that he wont come to know about Anika's sacrifice.. and I totally agree with you..that is not possible after such a huge fall out.. all Im saying is about my observations regarding the writer..she seems to be hell bent on dragging this nonsense for as long as she can and she will drag this revelation until they are at a point where they are open about their feelings and have a showdown or something.. absolutely right Mav ... that is a frustration we are all feeling and she seems to think it is good writing

All my questions were regarding what is Harneet trying to show no matter how badly it is coming out.. I am just trying to understand where this supposedly awesome writer wants the story to go.. Like you pointed out.. the past 2-3 weeks have been an utter nonsense track..nothing properly adds on to any growth for Shivika.. they are still stuck in the same limbo except probably slowly softening towards each other a little.. but they may just again start bickering at each other without any reason like they have been doing for the past month.. what you said in green had me in splits 😆

I have just not been able to make any sense as to why are they making both Shivaay and Annika play so dumb and not use their brains.. Which is why I am trying to make sense of what the writer is even trying to portray..The way she is taking the track I feel the confrontation may be the last part in reuniting them.. not the first.. instead of addressing their issues they seem to be focused on some tangential stuff altogether.. I know Mav ... I feel the same ... she keeps changing them both all the time

Lol this arc has become never ending.. Im still hoping they will do something about this now that the baby is gone.. for the past 3 weeks we just had random episodes while both were being just idiots for most of the time.. but Im hoping trps will bring some sense into the writer now.. I dont see the show surviving if they do not bring some sense into this track now.. 😆 Get her off that damn weed and she will actually start functioning ... I don't even think she looks at the TRP's when she is on a high 😆

Nothing makes sense right now.. and if they just keep having lollipop scenes with no proper talk / confrontation between Shivika I dont think they will be able to sustain the show any longer!! Harneet will just bring a 'circus' in then to fill in ... clowns and all 😆

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