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Posted: 8 years ago
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Pinky may create some MU in anika's mind and make her go away without telling. She already thinks Shivaay does not love her and will never love her.😕 Pata nahi then kal kya bol rahi thi. What does she think of Shivaay's fark and dards sessions? 2 rs cheapda time passing? And she also says anath ashram ki baat chali toh he will reject.😕 Anika maha confuse hogayi hai. Did he think she has some minimal requirement NKK and thats why announced as wife?😆 Wife declaration ke liye NKK ki zaroorat nahi hai? Is that what anika thinks?


Maybe after she leaves Shivaay will go behind her and bring her back. This time CVs show some mercy and show us how he convinced her.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: --Risha--

Awesome Analysis Asya. I hope you're right because I can not accept Shivaay abandoning Anika because of a random bout of NKK brought on by the writer's monthly reminder 😆 He's in too deep with her, is smitten (as much as Shivaay can be 😆 ) and can't stand the idea of losing her. It has to be something HUGE for him to pull away.

I personally feel it might be Anika walking away this time. Let's see.

Btw, happy to see you back :)



yeah exactly unless they want to ruin the show and lose the complete fan base here - i dont see that happening, it would be stupid to show all that to be honest
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Posted: 8 years ago
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So happy to have you back. I noticed your presence yesterday and was hoping to see something from you today. Here comes the positive force to restore the balance... especially when many of us are not too happy with how they are messing up.

You are right...Annika's Shivaay has changed and if she is family then she has to be accepted with everything. Mahi knows that he is Shivaay's elder brother (Concluded from the dialogues and lafzo ka ye rishta in Mahi scene). The question is whether he is Kamini or Pinki's son. Logic says that Pinki has to be the mother but then it's IB . Or let's assume Mahi and Shivaay are made to believe that he is Kamini's son. In any case, Annika will ask for acceptance of Mahi to the Oberoi family which Pinki or may be Shivaay will oppose. That will be Shivaay's test and I think he may say something which will make Annika pack her bags but in the end we know she will never leave the house alone because Shivaay will be ready to walk out with her.

So let's see but one thing for sure that you have brought out "Annika's Shivaay" and Shivaay Singh Oberio" are two different people.

Thanks for bringing this out now...feels so much better. :)





Just my theory and take on : Mere Shivvay and His NKK

Let us list the virtues of Annika's Shivvay (Mere Shivvay) without touching on the NKK scene that caused the ShivIkaians to sink into depression, (me included), since the past two days.

* Annika Meri Biwi hai : The very Public Declaration and Presentation of Annika Shivvay Singh Oberoi' that sent us all on cloud 9 and we have not descended from there yet - even with the OmRu NKK conversation that put a wet blanket on our elated state. And I firmly believe we will not descend from there unless the CV's pull a massive about turn in Shivvay's character progression.

* Daksh awarding him 'Husband of the Year' but chiding him about failing as a brother. Mere Shivvay - proven yet once again. He chooses his wife over his sister because that is what his heart led him to do. Right or wrong - I refrain to judge. He could not stand by and watch his 'Pride and Izzat' (his wife) suffer humiliation. How dare the world point fingers at Mrs. Shivvay Singh Oberoi!!

* Tumhari Izzat aab meri hai - and all in the room were witness to that as well!!! But Shivvay you know nothing of this girls past and lineage??!! How can you throw caution to the wind and attach your' Izzat' to hers without knowing about her?

The Answer: Because as a 'Patni' her reputation and respect is his now no matter what that past brings. This marriage is now a package deal - past, present and future. Shivvay has just to work with all three and find that balance when he gets a breather from playing 'Superman' to his Family. Shivvay is not known to be a spontaneous man where Staking his Family's name and Izzat is concerned and he has clearly and firmly stated - Annika is my Family.

NOW FOR THE PROGRESSION THAT HAS HAD US ALL UP IN ARMS ABOUT HOW SELFISH ANNIKA'S SHIVVAY' IS IF NKK IS STILL A HURDLE.

To me the OmRu conversation was just that, OmRu conversation. It was 2 concerned loving brothers discussing the marital situation of their adored older one. Completely legit! Any sibling who loves the other would do it. They are the outsiders looking in and have knowledge of the NKK touting Shivvay married to a non-NKK Annika. Other than that they have never been privy to their private moments barring Rudy's kitchen intrusion on their romantic moment.

But does anyone really know about Shivvay and Annika's marital situation and dynamics - I mean really know about it??!! How much has and does this couple share and let on when it comes to their personal life? How many members of the Family really know where ShivIka stand and how deep that marital vow is?? How many people have been a fly on the wall in the confines of their bedroom??

Answer - No one. That is because these two are like obsessive- possessive kids where their relationship and marriage is concerned. I think only Sahil has little insight into their marriage and its depth because they both find it easy to confide in this non partial innocent angel.

Shivvay may not have forgotten his NKK stance but this is not the same Shivvay of the old. This Shivvay knows, sees and needs only Annika and his brothers have made peace with this because for the first time ever Shivvay is living for himself and not others. In fact the two have always encouraged it and nurtured his dependence on Annika - now his Great Wall. In their opinion, Shivvay has earned this love, adulation and coddling that Annika gives him because she fulfils all that he has missed in his growing up years.

As for Shivvay, life without his 'Jaan' is simply unthinkable. She is the very air that he breathes and the life that surrounds him. He knows that she will never waver no matter what comes his way. This is not going to be a fight between his NKK and Annika but I feel rather a fight between his wife's Izzat and her NKK. My theory is that this thrown as an insult in his face is going to cause the 'Vanvas'. He will be forced to accept Mahi if he is to accept Annika with her lack of NKK.

I know a lot of people found that his attention towards Annika was out of line today when he came to consciousness but I think it was valid coming from where he was, mentally paranoid about almost losing her to death. Remember he admit that during the first blush lesson. The gun shot was show playing over and over in his head. She was too precious to him to lose her now that he had found her. His breakdown with Sahil proved that.

During the Holi scene he again reiterated that 'She was his Family' and then again confirmed that with Sahil when he broke down. I feel this whole distancing him from Pinky and showing his sole attachment to Annika and Sahil is being done to lay the foundations of the NKK insult of Annika that will lead to him walking out with her.

Pinky feeling unloved as a mother is paving the way for Mahi's entry and his acceptance into the Oberoi fold. I don't know if he is going to be announced as the legit child or not (Oberoi Saahab ka bada beta najayaz hai) but I feel both Pinky and Mahi are going to find that they fulfil each other needs of feeling needed and loved. The Instagram of Nikitaji may be in that context of finding the 'Bahu' for Mahi - her real son. Maybe the facts will be twisted to bring about this Mahi-Shivvay change in dynamics with Pinky

That is something I have not worked out as yet but I do know that Shivvay leaving Annika is not a possibility at this juncture. Shivvay has always been steadfast and loyal in his commitments and his relationships especially his marriage to Annika. Whether he sees a future with her or not and her as the mother-of-his children or not leaving HIS WIFE and ABANDONING HER is not in his character at all. That will strip his whole identity as Mere Shivvay' - as in my steadfast rock and anchor.

Pinky might insult Annika and ask that of him (after she overhears Sahil and Annika's conversation) and in response to that I can see him walking out (he has done that before with the ML fiasco and that too without a moment's hesitation). His love, need and respect for Annika outweighs all other things at this point and he is a man who does not take an insult to his wife lightly.

This Vanvas' which might be brought about by Pinky will propel Shivvay to dig into Annika's past in order to restore her reputation.

Annika: "Tumhe Mere Saath Khade Rehene mein Sharam Aati hai?"

Shivvay: "Aaisa nahi hai Annika!!"

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Nice analysis
I hope CVS think this much before writing episodes😆, n yes nkk is the most wanted monologue of shivaay , we all r waiting for, like u said their relationship have progressed soo much that i can say anika is saans( breath) of shivaay, he can not leave her because of nkk now, they went too far for leaving but again i take a back seat in expecting some positive from show, i thought that shivay will marry ani to save her from daksh, n will never believe that mu but i was brutally proven wrong by that wedding week episodes of ib, like u mentioned he might stay mum when Anika's background would be revealed n may also remain mum when asked if he accepts her with her orphanage background or not, but would never leave her, now if separation is really happening anika might be the reason for it, like she getting upset about shivay's silance on her bg or she might know chuttki is alive so she may leave shivay for finding chutki n might want shivay to stay away from her as it would be dangerous for him to stay around her or something like that, but i want her to walk away on her own reasons , not by being humiliate n assuming herself not posh enough for shivay ( like she is doing now a days) that would be soo off putting i cant stand self pittying FL
PS: iam looking forward to nkk track if anika is being presented strong n mature
PS: sorry for long reply n thanks for making post😳
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Posted: 8 years ago
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welcome back asya...I was really missing your posts
good to see you back...
awesome post yar...its bringing positive vibes...
I am so confused with the ongoing tracks yar...all are talking about Shivaay's NKK belief...omru,Annika but shivaay doesn't talk about it...I know his beliefs about Nkk is still there but I think he really doesn't care about it when it comes to Annika...om said that shivaay doesn't want to accept Annika as his life partner... Ya he himself said it to om but wat he said to Rudra is entirely different...remember after he accepted her as his wife in front of the media there was a scene where Rudra and shivaay was talking about marriage and shivaay said that it's not about getting married it's about getting good life partner..he accepted there that Annika is perfect for him but why this sudden Nkk come back...I think now it will not be about Annika but about mahi...shivaay can't accept mahi into his family because of family reputation but Annika will opposse it
i dnt think shivaay will ever abandon Annika because of NKK...he can't breath with out her...then how can he abandon her ...never ever it will happen...only chance is Annika leaving him but I don't think shivaay will allow it...if pinky try to seperate Annika from shivaay then shivaay will go away from her for ever...because Annika's place in Shivaay's mind is equal to his brothers and pinky is never close to that...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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that is a new way to look at things
coming to ur analysis ... shivaay only wanted to leave the house TEMPORARILY because annika's life was in danger in ML, and leaving with annika if pinky insults her doesn't fix the problem ... he's only running away from it ... and shivaay normally faces his problems instead of just running to the nearest exit

however, every time she was insulted he stood by her ... by the way, did Pinky try to insult annika after shivaay declared her as his wife?? i can't remember

if she did ... then i don't think he stood quietly and he won't stand quietly now

if she didn't ... then now she'll experiance shivaay's wrath which will make her more jealous

however, mahi's entery into OM changes everything,because i think shivaay will leave

he might be kicked out by pinky in her rage that he protected annika and took her side or rage from the fact that some else's son was being pampered in the masion while her own was being tutored by kamini

or another possibility ... him leaving on his own due to feeling inferior in OM

i'll go with the first one actually ... if a confusion happens and pinky thinks Shivaay is illegitemate ...there's no way she'll keep him ...at least not at first ... she believes in KHOON a lot

... every time she attaked OMRU it was that shivaay is not your blood brother ... so yeah she would kick him out

coming to mahi ... he seems like he loves shivaay (not that way😆😆) so i don't know if he'll agree on the whole kick shivaay out thing

p.s: i hope the cvs do this, we would get Shivika vanvaas moments ... brothers moments and even mahi will get some love before his character ends

pps: damn it i hate confusion and thinking without clues ... just give us a spoiler please😭😭
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Posted: 8 years ago
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So happy to have you back. I noticed your presence yesterday and was hoping to see something from you today. Here comes the positive force to restore the balance... especially when many of us are not too happy with how they are messing up.
I hope my theory does not get proven wrong with the CV's doing a 'Shivvay flip' on his character at this point.

You are right...Annika's Shivaay has changed and if she is family then she has to be accepted with everything.
She is not just a part of the Family - he very specifically calls her 'His Family' if you listen carefully. 'Tum meri family ho' is very huge coming from Shivvay whose brothers were his world. For him Family means everything and if she is his Family then she is his everything.
Shivvay does not make random statements to please anyone. It is not in his nature.
Everyone has noticed Annika and Sahil dynamics that have changed but no one has noticed that the O'Bro dynamics have changed as well.
The fantastic thing about it though is that neither Sahil nor OmRu resent that change in Annika and Shivvay. All 3 siblings truly want their respective siblings to find love and happiness together.
Annika is come a long way from being his responsibility,then his zarurat to his izzat and now his dil ka dard. This journey was made by Shivvay not by Annika. Annika is still the same as she always was - unchanging, before and after marriage. It was this quality that made Shivvay change and grow into the man he is today. He knew then, knows now and will always know where he stands in Annika's life. She is the constant and uncomplicated part of his very complicated life. She gives and expects nothing in return, hence she is his all.

Mahi knows that he is Shivaay's elder brother (Concluded from the dialogues and lafzo ka ye rishta in Mahi scene).
Yes. He is the older one for sure. His whole protectiveness about Shivvay, wiping his face and straightening his hair said it all. I can see how similar he is to Shivvay in that regard.
Even keeping his distance from Annika was such a Shivvay trait. She was someone else's wife, most importantly his brothers. So again the 'dark' Shivvay but not a kamina one ..lol

The question is whether he is Kamini or Pinki's son.
I would think they are twins, one of which Kamini managed to pick and walk off with at birth. Hence her insistence that she made the mistake of picking Mahi instead of Shivvay. Maybe Shivvay was the sickly one and hence she decided to pick the healthy one.
Her need to humiliate the daughter of the house may have to do with her being rejected by Shakti for marriage. So the need to humiliate Pinky and make her pay.

Logic says that Pinki has to be the mother but then it's IB . Or let's assume Mahi and Shivaay are made to believe that he is Kamini's son.
I think there is a possibility that Shivvay may assume or be made to assume that he is the illegitimate one. Again too soon to tell.

In any case, Annika will ask for acceptance of Mahi to the Oberoi family which Pinki or may be Shivaay will oppose. That will be Shivaay's test and I think he may say something which will make Annika pack her bags but in the end we know she will never leave the house alone because Shivaay will be ready to walk out with her.
That is a possibility but at this point Shivvay separating from Annika is not 😉

So let's see but one thing for sure that you have brought out "Annika's Shivaay" and Shivaay Singh Oberio" are two different people.
Yes .. they are. Shivvay is SSO to the world but 'Mere Shivvay' to Annika and Annika alone

Thanks for bringing this out now...feels so much better. :)

Edited by asya34 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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*runs to hug Pearl* I missed you !!.
Awesome write up. I'll be back...😉
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Welcome back Asya! You truly were missed! And as usual bang on post, I think it was a much needed post after today's episode...since many of us including myself went into a slight depression. But the positivity in your post makes me hopeful. I actually went back and re watched the episodes where Annika confronted Shivaay when Kamini didn't let her do the rasam for prinku. Everything Shivaay said, proves what you said...he's come a long way, he won't let her loose etc. When she asked him if he is ashamed of her he answered "it's nothing like that." Then when the whole Annika meri biwi hai came about...I feel their relationship went strength to strength. So I'm hopeful now that this rise in NKK won't harm Shivika in fact I'm hopeful that eventually it will strengthen them, even if it means Annika having to leave him for a bit.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ultimatewinnerr

Nice analysis

I hope CVS think this much before writing episodes😆, n yes nkk is the most wanted monologue of shivaay ,
I can hardly remember the last time the man himself said it though. This used to be his constant chant at one time and that chant has changed into 'tum meri biwi ho - haq banta hai tumhara' kind of chant interspersed with spontaneous hugs and intimate caresses. This man seems more focused on how to get to second base with his very shy and elusive wife than being obsessed with her background ...lol

we all r waiting for, like u said their relationship have progressed soo much that i can say anika is saans( breath) of shivaay, he can not leave her because of nkk now, they went too far for leaving but again i take a back seat in expecting some positive from show,
No he cannot leave her because of NKK at this point as that would be character assassination of Shivvay Singh Oberoi in my opinion. He is a dark, ruthless and cruel man but not with the ones he loves. He abandoning his wife would be against all he stands for.

i thought that shivay will marry ani to save her from daksh, n will never believe that mu but i was brutally proven wrong by that wedding week episodes of ib,
That too happened for a reason. If he had married her then it would have been out of pity and Annika would have been obliged to him. Besides, how would a man who believed so firmly in NKK have done that with a rational, level and logical thinking mind??!!
Besides, I am glad he did not marry her in order to save her from Daksh. That would have been too filmy for my liking.😆
She being forced by him because of his blind faith in NKK has always given her the upper hand with him. The marriage by force has in no way been forgotten by Annika. She rubs it in till today and he gets uncomfortable because she has awakened his conscience to his wrong doing.

like u mentioned he might stay mum when Anika's background would be revealed n may also remain mum when asked if he accepts her with her orphanage background or not, but would never leave her, now if separation is really happening anika might be the reason for it, like she getting upset about shivay's silance on her bg or she might know chuttki is alive so she may leave shivay for finding chutki n might want shivay to stay away from her as it would be dangerous for him to stay around her or something like that, but i want her to walk away on her own reasons , not by being humiliate n assuming herself not posh enough for shivay ( like she is doing now a days) that would be soo off putting i cant stand self pittying FL
I don't think Annika pities herself when she mentions her past. It is more a fear that her past might cause him to distance himself from her. She truly loves the man and hence her fear is justified I feel. Any of us in her position would fear the same. Her past is one thing that she cannot control or change about her and it is (in her opinion) what is most important to the man she loves.
She would never beg his acceptance but that does not mean she is emotionally strong to face losing him. She may walk out in front of Shivvay or in private without his knowledge but him taking her walking out on him laying down is what I refuse to accept.
Shivvay letting Annika go and not standing up as her support is something I cannot imagine at this point. He did admit that she has been through a lot for him and his Family so in her hour of need him abandoning her would make him a 'world class jerk'.

PS: iam looking forward to nkk track if anika is being presented strong n mature
PS: sorry for long reply n thanks for making post😳

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