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Posted: 7 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: Anniiee

I have a right to my views just like you are entitled to yours... but calling others "hormonal teenagers" & "feminist brigade" just because they have opposing views as to yours is downright rude and insulting...

I don't expect Kabeer to fall in love with her just because she seems have to have fallen in love with him...nor do i expect him to become romantic overnight...but the utter lack of respect he has for Zara is disturbing... he was more respectful towards her before..be it during the tripple taalaq clash in the train or the Sleevless dress vala debate...He always let her keep her points and state her view even if he didn't agree with it...

Maybe he wanted to work alone... not wanting Zara's help/interference is justified... but throwing her work in the bin..? that's not okay and its just a sign a male chauvinism... I agree that many males in the society are like that...But if we as women don't raise our voice and continue to accept this sort of behavior then nothing will ever change..😊 And yes in relationships people have to be patient and also compromise at times...But if only one of the two has to be patient/compromise every time the relationship starts becoming suffocating... I think once Zara comes out of her bubble she would realize and withdraw herself from Kabeer and this would pave way for a redemption kinda track...

P.S not trying to be rude or anything,just giving my view... If i can go gaga over kabeer,i can also be pissed at him... Peace!😃😃

I dont get from where "lack of respect" is stemming. May be I keep respect for human and respect for their thoughts 😆 For me, he isnt respecting her thoughts and not appreciating her efforts but he does respect her

I guess i have nowhere have said that zaara have to take all insults from him, did I? I pointed out that everything have limits and that walking away at very first fight is not acceptable.
I guess we have diff nazariya and that is why you guys have misinterpreted the entire post wrongly 😆
I am tired explaining same 2-3 points over n over again so lets just be happy with our nazariyas and understanding of concept and characters
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Posted: 7 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: -Zaara-.

Well, i never mentioned Kavir being all touchy and lovey dovey with Zara bcz he has not reached at that stage as yet, but never the less. I wont disagree..i was offended with the name calling!!

if you have never mentioned that stuff, I guess you shouldnt have bothered yourself😳
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Posted: 7 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: dattu21

So Many opinions abt current scenario, kabir n zara both r @ fault bt its 70:30 ratio😆

Kabir n zara r arranged married couple so it takes time in relationShiP bt it doesnt mean it's man dominate Or female Dominate.

i Cant see kabir/zara 's char degrading or Sudden change instead Both r still same bt the diff is zara has been quick-witted n impressed by kabir where kabir is nt yet, he is just the same like How He was earlier.

This! Their characters are still intact. Zaara is an open book so its easy to read her but Kabir is reserved one and slowly his layers are being peeled off.

Besides ruKSy adds Ghee in the fire n it hurts kabir's ego + The more zara is trying to help, the more its hurting kabir's ego.He is feeling himseLf worthless n most importantly kabir's mindset is how ahmad family are!! shehbaz never listens aisha's advice-remember when Shehbaz did drama of fake alliance of Zabir's marriage N How aisha opposed it bt shehbaz stopped her n told her to mind her own way nt interfere on his way + when after marriage zabir was going at Zara's house, at that time also shehbaz said something abt man n woman like its Woman's responsibility towards her hubby where its hubby's duty towards his wife...that's how Mr. kabir ahmad is following...So yes Kabir will surely changed bt nw now, it will take time otherwise what 'll we viewer see in the story if story is all lovely n happy😆

Arey nahi Shahbaz ko infact Aisha ne clearly bola do watever you want but I wont tolerate if my family is dragged in it and he assured her that it wont happen 😆 Aisha is strong women😳 Kabir's mentality mostly comes from whatever he hv learnt from madarsa. I have seen many jamaat people who goes hardcore about teachings. Dont do this n dont do that kinds. Allah says to make religion easy for it followers cos it becomes rigid people will suffocate. Kabir will slowly come around with valid explanations ofcourse😳


Right nw, Zara siddaqi has to just wake up n Has to come Out from her dream Land, kabir has the same mindset, she should stop interfering in his way n must hv to do something for herself, for her dream n wait n see for kabir's response In this relation?i mean relationship can only work when both want nt by a single person so wait, give space then decide how she wants to live her life!!

Yes Zaara have to wake up! She is totally smitten by Kabir and almost in love with him. Soon she will get a jhatka and she will wake up with a bang😳

i wanna see something new n diff in this show, will love to see zara as successfully working woman than typical kitchen politics!! Let's see!!😊

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Zaara-.

But, just to get it clear, i prefer healthy discussions and hope no one takes anything personal with my comments and replies. We are just discussing a TV show and its characters! It would be great if we can have peaceful discussions!! 😳

Everybody loves healthy discussions
I wont deny but you guys have made me feel "why the heck you posted it"
Edited by peeyara - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#25

Originally posted by: sahana747

😛Peeeyara ,Your are very modest.Actually your post was the best,it put Kabeer's and Zara's character in the real perspective.After being fed on artificial romance and hatred spewing serials for decades,the fresh elegance of true love and usool and farz will create confusion in the viewers imagination.Never mind reality will win😃

Someone from BALH 🤗
I am so happy to see you, I hope you do remember me 😆

Kabir is a mix of good n bad and their fight have actually not yet started but still people are blazing guns at him 😆 All that I wish is people will give chance to makers to unfold his character completely and then take us on his jouney of change
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Posted: 7 years ago
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IMO, Kabir is still in character and OSR any day !
Both Kabir and Zara are products of a patriarchal system. At this stage, am gonna be charitable to both.
If Kabir told her to stay at home, it was him who took her to work next day.It was Zara who chose to go to bank,giving importance to her personal chore on impulse.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: peeyara

Someone from BALH 🤗
I am so happy to see you, I hope you do remember me 😆

Kabir is a mix of good n bad and their fight have actually not yet started but still people are blazing guns at him 😆 All that I wish is people will give chance to makers to unfold his character completely and then take us on his jouney of change

e😃😛😊peeyara my love ,I am so happy to be with you in this forum.After effects of BALH lasted almost for four years.😉I didn't even look for another,as I am always interested in other cultures,there was some intuition about ISA!and I am not disappointed yet⭐️Here again there is another Ram like Kabir though much much younger😳Keep writing ,will be too happy to see again😊
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I love you for this post so much nas! 😳
Firstly i really dont get the entire aspect of "Kabeer is not respecting Zara?"

HOW? WHERE? AND WHEN? .. I would really want everyone who says this to qoute instances where he insulted her? or was oblivious to her, bcz even i am really looking forward to a healthy discussion. Saying he didnt hug her is very baseless IMO.

Acc to me post -kashmir Kabeer respected her more. He freaking owned up in front of everyone that he is changing bcz of Zara, if this is not respect i dont know what else is? ..

Yes he has patriarchal views, he believes a woman;s job is to stay at home, so what is the shock here? what exactly? he is suppose to be like this, didnt the same kabeer said to zara that he was ready to take a bullet bcz :biwi ki hifazat shauhar ka farz hai? ".. not that he cares or he cannot live without her or she is special .. just farz!! .. I really dont understand where did he change or is not respecting her?

Secondly, i am amazed at how no one sees how Zara is over stepping in her blind love and fangirling for her husband that she is invading his personal space. Zara needs to know she doesnt know this man, she CANNOT and BLOODY CANNOT go on taking decsions for something so dear to him. his prject is his dream, he is deeply effected by the shadow of his father and now his father-in-law, he wants to make his own identoty. How is Zara trying to help him without taking him into confidence?

Jis ne apne baap ki madad nai li wo apni biwi ki mada lega? Zara is too impulsive to realize this. Zara needs to just accept what he offers atm, he is keeping her a part of all his mental struggles and she should accept that instead of over stepping and then complaining that he didnt reciprocate bcz hhonestly, he is not bound to or liable too.

In kashmir, Kabeer gave in to Zara;s wishes of how she wanted to pursue the relationship, accepted only what she offered, he didnt go overboard with her advances, here Kabeer is offering emotional intimacy so Zara needs to stop there and not go overboard.

Thirdly, the thing about working, i am with Kabeer here again. That man is practical to realize how different they both are and cannot work together, whereas Zara on the other hand has completely forgotten how they are poles apart, she keeps on repeating "hum ik sath kaam karen gey, ik sath ghar se niklen gey" .. it pisses Kabeer off! it does! You cannot blame him for not being rosy-eyed about the biggest issue in thier marriage. Maybe if Zara gets over her notion of "working together" and just focuses on "her working", Kabeer wont have a problem.

So, Kabeer is strict and reserved, but he has NEVER ignored Zara, he keeps her as apart of his life, whatever Islam asks him to do as a good husband, yes his "love" is missing but that will take time, for now .. I dont feel Kabeer has ever being disrespectful to Zara ever !


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Posted: 7 years ago
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I dthink its just that thr honeymoon seemed like a turning point for his character but nothing ended up progressing from kabirs side. He def isnt a diff character. Same as before but thats why its sad because zaara has progressed a little or at least they showed a more vulnerable side of her.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Bang on post & agree with you
i hardly visit the this forum but watching the show frm start...
the show is all about different perspective of both Zara & kabir both have different ideologies...& they were not ready for the marriage bcoz of this same thing of different perspective so how can makers show Kabir changing in just a month or in few days of marriage even in reality it's very hard to change ppl s mindset & perspective...i don't agree with kabir that women shouldn't work & etc but this is how many men think & changing a person's thinking takes time...which Zara will try to do
right now kabir is against woman working like some muslim & non muslim man

about his behavior he doesn't misbehavior with her but he is not giving her time or trying to understand her i think Kabir is so stressed about his project that he is not realising that now he is married & he needs to give her time too i agree he was shy frm start & zara was bindas...but right now kabir wants to prove himself & he wants to fullfill all the duties as we know in islam it's a husband's duty & responsibility that he should take care of every need of his wife & children & give them food, clothes & everything they need...but he has not earn anything yet to give zara all the things she needs as we saw how kabir said that even his bride gift (meher) was given by his father & when he said rukhsaar 's married is fixed with a better man than him he meant that... that boy is working in Dubai & earning so he may give rukhsaar a better life & everything wealth wise than him giving zara & when zara shown her interest to work & help him his ego got hurt...

i'm sure zara will try & explain things in light of islam to Kabir & slowly slowly he will change his thinking & it's good to show this issue so ppl should know about the women empowerment in Islam...
as we know Hazrat e khadija ( RA ) is one of history's most remarkable women & i'm sure Zara will talk about her in upcoming episodes that women can work
Khadija was born to a father who was a successful merchant in their Quraysh tribe of Mecca. She inherited her father's skills at a time in history when society was male-dominated and dangerous. Upon her father's death, she took over the business and traded goods through the primary commerce centers at that time from Mecca to Syria and to Yemen hiring the most trustworthy men of character to brave the dangerous trade routes.
& later she got married to Hazrat muhammad ( pbuh )
Her business was larger than all of the Quraysh trades combined, and it was the most acclaimed with a reputation of fair-dealing and high-quality goods.
Khadijah ( ra )earned two titles: Ameerat Quraish ( Princess of Quraish ) and at-Tahira ( the Pure One ) due to her impeccable personality and virtuous character, not to mention her honorable descent.Khadija ( ra ) gave her earnings to the poor and to the orphans,to the widows and the sick. She helped poor girls get married and provided their dowry...

In Islam it is preferred that women remain at home to look after the family and train children. Still if no male guardian lives with her or if he is ill or his income is insufficient, she may go out to earn but in hijab & here zara wants to work & she goes out in hijab so she can work. During the time of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), there were women traders and there were instances when women participated in wars to supply water or to nurse the wounded & as i mentioned about Hazrat Khadijah (ra) was the richest business woman of Quraysh & At present thousands of Muslim women in hijab work in hospitals, banks, schools, colleges and many other congenial working places.
so eventually Kabir will change his thinking & will agree that zara can work both at home & out side too

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