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Posted: 7 years ago
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So Many opinions abt current scenario, kabir n zara both r @ fault bt its 70:30 ratio😆

Kabir n zara r arranged married couple so it takes time in relationShiP bt it doesnt mean it's man dominate Or female Dominate.

i Cant see kabir/zara 's char degrading or Sudden change instead Both r still same bt the diff is zara has been quick-witted n impressed by kabir where kabir is nt yet, he is just the same like How He was earlier.

Besides ruKSy adds Ghee in the fire n it hurts kabir's ego + The more zara is trying to help, the more its hurting kabir's ego.He is feeling himseLf worthless n most importantly kabir's mindset is how ahmad family are!! shehbaz never listens aisha's advice-remember when Shehbaz did drama of fake alliance of Zabir's marriage N How aisha opposed it bt shehbaz stopped her n told her to mind her own way nt interfere on his way + when after marriage zabir was going at Zara's house, at that time also shehbaz said something abt man n woman like its Woman's responsibility towards her hubby where its hubby's duty towards his wife...that's how Mr. kabir ahmad is following...So yes Kabir will surely changed bt nw now, it will take time otherwise what 'll we viewer see in the story if story is all lovely n happy😆


Right nw, Zara siddaqi has to just wake up n Has to come Out from her dream Land, kabir has the same mindset, she should stop interfering in his way n must hv to do something for herself, for her dream n wait n see for kabir's response In this relation?i mean relationship can only work when both want nt by a single person so wait, give space then decide how she wants to live her life!!


i wanna see something new n diff in this show, will love to see zara as successfully working woman than typical kitchen politics!! Let's see!!😊
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Will reply each one after a while but I am amused at how few of you have taken it as if I have explicitly named you guys and accused you. Strange!
I have just pointed out what I have been seeing. And my post clearly mentions what harmonal n feminist stuff I am pissed at and that why kabir dont hug her, why he dont hold her hand and the thing that Zara should walk away from marriage over the very first disagreement
If you people have not made above claims(cos i dont even remmber the names or ids who wrote all this childish stuff) you dont need to feel offended
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: peeyara

Will reply each one after a while but I am amused at how few of you have taken it as if I have explicitly named you guys and accused you. Strange!

I have just pointed out what I have been seeing. And my post clearly mentions what harmonal n feminist stuff I am pissed at and that why kabir dont hug her, why he dont hold her hand and the thing that Zara should walk away from marriage over the very first disagreement
If you people have not made above claims(cos i dont even remmber the names or ids who wrote all this childish stuff) you dont need to feel offended

Well, i never mentioned Kavir being all touchy and lovey dovey with Zara bcz he has not reached at that stage as yet, but never the less. I wont disagree..i was offended with the name calling!!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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But, just to get it clear, i prefer healthy discussions and hope no one takes anything personal with my comments and replies. We are just discussing a TV show and its characters! It would be great if we can have peaceful discussions!! 😳
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: peeyara

I hope i hv not blabbered some rubbish stuff and made sense🤣

😛Peeeyara ,Your are very modest.Actually your post was the best,it put Kabeer's and Zara's character in the real perspective.After being fed on artificial romance and hatred spewing serials for decades,the fresh elegance of true love and usool and farz will create confusion in the viewers imagination.Never mind reality will win😃
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: --Amulya--

Bang ON!! You've summarised whatever I said in different posts upto a certain level.


I do understand you but there are always people who have the same stance as you and also who have different opinion, you should learn to ignore the latter ones.

I guess there're many people who are yet to be married in this forum, even I'm one of them and so we can't really know the depth till we touch the water. All we need to do right now is giving time to the show for the setup of its plot, once the characters are set only then we can see them changing as we expect them to. I do condemn Kabir right now but I would also appreciate him when he starts changing.

Yes, I said I'm taking a break from the show but its only because I watch the shows only when its purely positive or in a good phase to save myself from heartbreaks, I'll marathon later when the plot starts shining again, anyways I'm an online viewer who doesn't contribute to trp's. Regarding feminism, I think many people misunderstand the concept, true feminism considers everyone equal and if Zara behaves the same way as Kabir its wrong even then, feminsim doesn't support women irrespective of their behaviour.

yes until you are in an a relationship, you dont know but I guess we do see married couple in our own families. I have all kind of couples in my family n i did hv observed n analysed their traits and not a single couple have individuals who are similar😆 saare ke saare opposites hai yet they are still together and going strong!

I agree and understand wid watching only positive tracks😆 most of us do that only - watch till it entertains you then say good bye. If we get emotionally involved in a character or a story, we tend to crib abt it but then watch it till last epi too😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: aqua.m7

Every day I log out and promise myself I won't get go on the forum.

And everyday I break that promise because there are really thoughtful people in this forum. People of all ages, views and wisdom due to different experiences in life.
What I love about this fact is that I've started to see everything in a different light with every single analysis.

THANKYOU for this. Its made my re evaluate the situation and see kabeer and zaras relationship in a new light.

Every since this track started I've been so immature and impatient. And don't get me started on the constant buck throwing. It's kabirs fault. No it's not, yes it is. Arghhh I'm having so many conflicting emotions about him.

But what you just highlighted is in fact the truth of life. It's not a fairy wprld, and its most definitely not the sugar costed crap we see on tv.
However I'm still very much against his actions and attitude towards Zara and by no means am I ever going to justify his actions.

But... I feel like it's needed. It's needed for zara to snap out of her la la land, for kabeer to appreciate and start to love her presence and thought. But most importantly it is important for us, for society to realise that injustice is becoming part of the norm, that its wrong and one should raise their voice..

P.s that stuff about the qazi post was on point. It's true. He only got the post because irfan and salma want to secure zaras position in the ahmed household. If he was so against the mehr he should have spoken up against the post too.

Great post!

there are no second thoughts about Kabir being wrong n misogynist but the accusations from some fans that Kabir have changed is weird
Until the makers shows what is wrong there is no point in showing what is right. First viewers need to see how their thought process have been over years, kabir is representing them and we cannot expect him to understand easily n change. It has to be wid many ifs n buts.
About giving back position, yes he should do that and I am actually looking forward to it. I hope Kabir will do it and he should make it clear it to both fathers that he want the position "yes" but solely on his merit
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Zaara-.

I have so much to say! Firstly, i cannot believe what i just read!!! The tag lines we got( and i say WE because i am upset with how Kabir's character is developing and I do feel its taking a huge turn), how we fans are described as 'hormonal fans' and 'feminist brigade'; that is down right rude and pathetic. Sorry if i sound crazy, i do apologize, but i find that very low and disrespectful.

Kabir's character development have not yet begun. His layers are being peeled off slowly and we are getting to see how deep rooted s his backward thinking. And about saying those words, i am not sorry cos thats what i have been seeing on SM. Feminism is most misunderstood word. Here people think that wife walking away from her marriage is feminism😕 If your marriage n husband are being difficult and mistreating you, yes walk away but for a small thing like opinions differ and husband is being not very affectionate so walk away from marriage do not mean feminism.

I agree, I am one, of lets describe it as "Anti-Kabir" at the moment. When this serial first started, I enjoyed watching a fresh new ML who i felt didn't hesitate to stand up for women, or stand up to say how he fully feels no matter the situation, regardlesss of if it was his father or whoever, what he thought was wrong was wrong. He had always made a stand for what he felt was right. Be it their first encounter in the train, then standing up, well basically shielding Siddique's respect> or let me say Zara- a woman's respect in front of the media. The playful Kabir who came back after his madressa who was in the kitchen cooking for his family. Or the Kabir who actually looked at his wife lovingly. WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM ???? every since he returned from Kashmir he is a changed individual. Doesn't smile as often and barely cares to show any care or RESPECT for his wife. The truth is, maybe Kabir is not so vocal about his feelings, but before expressions were there na?

Even I am Anti Kabir 😆 I am not liking his old school thinking but that is what is his basic characterization so I wont complain that he "Changed". I have been seeing this kabir only - who loves n adores his family, who is softie, who respect women with these good qualities he have bad qualities too - for him his POV matters most, what opinion he have over something is the only opinion that matters and that is what will have to change to show progress in him 😳 How can he show care and respect? I am asking genuinely. From where I am seeing, he have both for Zaara. He is not respecting her thoughts and views and I agree to this one

As quoted, "Kabir cannot turn into some lover boy just within a month of marriage. Strong relationships are build brick by brick.". this is very true. I personally do not expect him to just fall in love with her like that. She has not done anything superior as yet for him to fall in love with her anyhow, however He has, he saved her and as you said he perform his duties, but within these duties where is the RESPECT. NO ONE wants him to be a 'joru ka gulam'. It is just his thinking that changed and lack of respect. I understand the show is about women's rights and how she and Kabir adjust and live thier life. But in any relationship, the foundation of any relationship in my opinion is respect. Respect comes first. And, i am not sure if Kabir even realizes it, but he is belittling Zara in so many ways. He threw the papers she wrote away, he was ready to show his affection by holding her hands when he wanted the Mahr's cheque and without fully listening to her, he made an assumption and then quarrels her out. For a newly married couple, that is not healthy at all.

Yes he is being idiot by not taking zaara's help. There is no harm in taking help and I have pointed it out in my post. Kabir dont want any interference from anyone in his project and zaara tops the list as he believes they cant work together cos of nazariya.

Another issue, I agree Kabir is opening up to Zara with his dream project and investors and trials and what not. BUT its all about him. His dream, his issues and his problems. Kabir is not being fair at all. But when Zara says she wants to come to the meetings and join back work, he has an issue and tells her to stay home!! WHY???? Where are her rights then? Her dreams? Kabir is being sick selfish!

All in All, i loved Kabir's character and so as Zara's. I mean come on, Kabir has good ways. He doesn't talk to her in a loud tone, and when he did he immediately apologized, and the other stuff in Kashmir, like calling her parents and what not. So even though i am venting I am still going to watch the show to see how it unfolds for us. But Lack of RESPECT is my issue. If that makes me a feminist brigade so be it!! Another thing, if we women sit down and take bullshit from men, because we grew up seeing men put crap on the table and the woman silently conforms because this is how 'typical men' are then something is wrong with us!! We as women need to teach men, that both men and women are valuable in their own ways, and women can do the same as men, visa versa. Men must realize just because you married the woman does not mean you own her. She stills has all rights she previously had. The only thing that comes to her is her responsibilities towards her husband. What Kabir is doing, or what it is portrayed to me as, is Kabir believes that Zara must stay at home because he said so. But the next morning he tells her come and Zara jumps and goes!! See, this is why i am annoyed. LACK OF RESPECT!!!!!

No women should take crap from men but yahan abhi shuruat huyi bhi nahi and ppl are like zaara give divorce and go 🤣 Zaara is strong enuf to walk away. Right now she is just trying to work out this relationship and she is giving everything to it 😳 The day she realizes that she is being subdued wrongly, she will take a stand for herself firmly.

Anyways, i hope i didn't come across rude, because seriously, that was not my intention. I support strong healthy discussions. Hope there is no hard feelings!! Btw good posts!! Opens more discussion😆

To rest of the post, I would just say that neither of them are perfect. like zaara depositing the check without discussing. Yes it was her rightful money and she can do watever she wants and she definitely had gud intentions to help him out. She is impulsive. she takes instant decision. Together they will help each other overcome their flaws
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: shereenm

Hi I am a silent member and don't really post much, I love to read others posts. In this case I can see why people are hating Kabir and it is all because of Ruksar. It is her intervention and conspiracy that is lead to a different thought pattern in Kabir. Think about it if there was no Ruksar then Zara would not be infatuated with Kabir ( I don't call it love because I don't think she is in love she is just trying to make the marriage work by impressing Kabir). There differences would be shown in a different way, but because we have this third wheel and Kabir is kind of taking on her words is leading to the hatred. Think about it in every marriage is there a third person there might be in some but not all. I feel the writers should not of involved Ruksar and left her as a bystander not do all the things that she has done, then both Zara and Kabir's flaws would be shown.

Dont blame Ruksar 🤣 See, she spoke the truth which got Kabir pondering over it. She just spell out to him that he didnt got the position based on merit and it was rather gifted to him being son in law of Irfan. and that is bitter truth.
Ruksar will time and again keep interfering in their lifes and I actually hate it. Makers dont need Ruksar as third wheel, zaara and kabir's nazariya is the strong third wheel in their relationship and I just hope ruksar ka jaldi se pack up ho🥱
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: adni143

exactly everyone is quoting its real life or fairytale life but point is we need to fiight for future generation by acknollaging it in real life ya it will give some bad test but its neessary for our chindren healthy future i in my house even have lot of difficulty when i tell them truth they bicott me sometime or start scolding me and thus its not easy i have to fight back more and more in a hope it will makeem reallise that money is not everything but real happiness and future of children not lie in the money they save in bank but te morals they have and what they follow as a feminine will come and everything will drown but values will be always with us
there are mNY CASES IN MY HOME AND RECENTLY I WAS SURPRISED TO KNOW ABOUT MY ONE COUSIN WHO GOT MARRIED TO EINGINEER AND THE GIRL IS JUST SITTING IN THE HOME MAKING FOOD AND ALL ARE SAYING THAT THERE IS NO NEEDOF MONEY SO WHAT THE NEED FOR HER TO WORK
I DONT WHY PEOPLE EQUATE EDUCATION AND PASSION WITH MONEY AND COMFORTS


how exactly you will do that? First people need to know where they are wrong(Kabir is representing them) and how they should rectify it(Zaara will teach that). You take second step after taking first step 😆

And about job, that should be totally girl's choice. If she wants to do a job then let her do and if she want to spend husband's money then let her do that 😆
I feel people dont get their children educated to do jobs. They educate them to make them good humans, to make them learn to differentiate gud n bad, to have morals.

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