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Originally posted by: Arijit007
it's posible, may be as shown in dharmakshetra he wanted to unite his brothers to the bondages of pain and revenge.
Originally posted by: LiveYourDream
šThe logic being nothing brings you closer than suffering together...I thought they had 'suffered' enough after the lakshagriha and had bonded enough for a lifetime!Ah but I forget they had not bonded through pain and suffering with Panchali... and DS/VH was that divine opportunity!
Originally posted by: bhas1066
When Yudhisthara went to forest at start of the vana parva. The entire populace of kurujangala the nation showed up and pleaded with their father and mother to not go. Vasa uses the term father and mother in context of king Yudhisthara and queen draupadi. When Yudhisthara sends two messages one via sanjaya and second via Krishna, he emphasized on two items and he gave more importance to the second group of items. In both messages, first demand was kingdom (in Krishna message he allowed a negotiating tactic of 5 places) but Yudhishtahra insisted on second demand in both messages: pension and charity due to teachers, orphans, poorest of poor, those who are unable to support themselves, handicapped, dwarves and those who are different. Same ones plus urdhavretas who were looked after by draupadi on daily basis. The "real" children of the Janaka, the King who is father. They were the ones they fought the war for. He repeated the message from Udyoga parva, the success of independence is meant by how you treat the lowest of low the ones who cannot help themselves the handicapped and the orphans.
No one was happy under duryodhana rule. It is clearly stated in Udyoga that Dhritrashtra's officers were corrupt stealing jeevika vriti of even Brahmins let alone orphans and others. It is clearly stated that because of huge number of dacoits the Praja was trasta. It is very clearly stated that because of law order no foreigner or pilgrim dared stay the night in kuru country for fear of bring robbed or killed or their children stolen. It is very clearly stated even by Dhritrashtra during vana that his sons are always immersed in shameful activities and vyabhichara.
Duryodhan had unfortunately not seen the throne as a responsibility. To him, it was about self definition. It was about himself. notice that when he dies all his words are about his life , his valour, his satisfaction but not a word for his praja or for that matter for any one else!!
and above all else to know the rule in dhrit's time do read the chapter of "kanika neeti" and also the reply of andavas to it during yudi-bheeshma convo.
Originally posted by: Urmila11
Sorry to interrupt, Yudhi 'lusted' her is an old topic and we had discussed a lot about it. If 'lust' is the word then he was not the only one to have that feeling, all his brothers had it. And oh what 'lusty' would share his desired women with his brothers? Oh yes, how lusty he was! He himself told Arjun to marry her, but it was Arjun who denied that proposal because he could not marry before Yudhi. Then, Yudhi thought of unity of brothers & finally took the decision, Which lusty would think so much about family, brothers' unity etc etc? If I'm not wrong, lust makes people mad & blind, and senseless. I salute that 'lust' which thought for others' welfare.
And oh yes, which lusty would reject Drupad's proposal when he offered her daughter only to Yudhi instead of 5? Why did he not take that golden opportunity?