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Posted: 13 years ago
Here's another source: http://www.indianetzone.com/35/lavanasura_demon_chief.htmI couldn't copy the contents so I'm just giving the URL.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: JanakiRaghunath

What does Valmiki say? He is the one that has Lavanasur's story because RCM ended after Shri Ram's Rajyabhishek and did not have Uttarkand.
Either way, he was definitely related to Ravan in some way, right? So ASR did not make up the fact that he was related to Ravan? But I don't think Kumbhinasi was Ravan's sister because only Shurpanakha was his sister...unless she was the sister of Khar and Dushan and was his cousin sister?😕


I dont know what exactly Valmiki Ramayan Says, I only have heard of these two stories! But I agree Ravan had only one real sister and Ram being revenged by the son of some Far sister of Ravana sounds inaccurate! The previous story shown by ASR makes more sense 😊

Ok here is the next question!

Who was Surphnakha's Husband? How he was killed?
(I asked this question because I wanna clease some of my doubts internal regarding it lol 😆)
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Posted: 13 years ago
But these articles dont say anything abt the relation of Ravana and Lavanasura, Neither they say about the revenge Lavanasura want to take from Ram!
They are only indicating about Ram Deciding to kill Lavanasura for the welfare of Sages! 😕
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Varnita.


I dont know what exactly Valmiki Ramayan Says, I only have heard of these two stories! But I agree Ravan has only one reas sister andRam being revenged by the son of some Far sister of Ravana sounds inaccurate! The previous story shown by ASR makes more sense 😊

Ok here is the next question!

Who was Surphnakha's Husband? How he was killed?
(I asked this question because I wanna clease some of my doubts internal regarding it lol 😆)

I think this would be a good question to ask in the doubts and discussions thread, because people there have read VR.😆
Shurpanakha's husband was Dushtabuddhi, and he was killed by Ravan himself because Dushtabuddhi was scheming for more power and of course, Ravan did not want anyone to become more powerful than him. Some sources say that Shurpanakha schemed the whole Sita Haran just to avenge her husband's death and have her brother killed, because she knew no one but Shri Ram could kill him, but VR doesn't have this. However, I am happy ASR showed this story because it portrays Shurpanakha in a better light and makes us feel sorry for her as viewers, doesn't it?
This story by the way is from Kamban Ramayana, the main source in Tamil Nadu of the South.😊 ASR showed a lot of stories from Kamban Ramayana, which is another reason why it was such a huge hit in Tamil Nadu.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Varnita.

But these articles dont say anything abt the relation of Ravana and Lavanasura, Neither they say about the revenge Lavanasura want to take from Ram!

They are only indicating about Ram Deciding to kill Lavanasura for the welfare of Sages! 😕

I know, that's why I was wondering where ASR got the connection between Ravan and Kumbhakarna. I'm sure it's there in some source because so far, all the extra stories ASR showed (except Luv Kush's lala land adventures) were from either popular folk tales or sources other than VR or RCM.
Maybe it's in Kamban Ramayana, because that version has a lot about Ravan's family more than any other source.
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Posted: 13 years ago
I also have another question. Does anyone know which source has Karkati in it? ASR showed that Karkati was the second wife of Kumbhakarna and was bearing his child when he was killed. She went to Lavanasura for revenge and that's how he found out that Ram had killed Ravan and Kumbhakarna.
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Posted: 13 years ago
Varnita and Janaki dears how can I ever thank you so much? I am so grateful to you for answering me and you have made me feel so much better truly🤗

Janaki you have reminded me of the things which is dearmost to my heart which is to think on beloved god - it is like immediate sukhun to the spirit hai na - always a shelter from life's little sharp moments. So I was able to do this and right away remember the right perspctive to have. i really had not thought of the fact that so many of our aradhyas are dark - i wonder whythis is

And Varnita you are so right that I should not be getting caught in the net of these choti moti cheezain which feel big in the moment but really they pass by hai na? I don't know why it just felt like such a heavy weight there in the darkness at night but you both have lightened the problem so that I can just keep on with the days and remember what is really mattering.

I could get a smile too finding myself today singing to Chottu and Maithili an old song i knew about when Nandlala asks Yoshodamaiya "Radha kyun gori, main kyun kala?" and i just burst out laughing thinking how even Krishna has asked this question!

So thank you thank you you have helped me so much lovely friends!😛

Btw, I think ki the husband of Soorpnakha was Vidyutjiva (not sure of spelling in Angrezi😆) who was king of the daityas hai na? And Lakshman killed him not realising when he was swinging his weapon in the Dandakaran. I think this as the opening of the strong of events in Dandkaran leading up to Sita Ma's being stolen away by Raavan


So also I am thinking



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Posted: 13 years ago
Aahhh Have U read my Mind? 😆 This is what I was about to ask U that is it true that Surphnakha Planned the whole SIta Haran just for revenging his Husband's Death? Because she already know that ram is the Avatar of Lord Vishnu and only He can Kill Ravana. My Hindi teacher told this to us once but at that time I didnt believe it.
I dont know but this whole thing was undigestable for me and still I do think the same. Surphnakha being attracted by Rama and then asking Ravana for abducting Sita just for the insult Lakshman had done to her seems more accurate. The reasons are :

1) If she already do know that Ram is the incarnation of Vishnu and can kill Ravana then why did she ask Khar Dushan for fighing with him? If Ram can Kill Ravana then he also can kill Khar dushan who were quite less in power as COmpared to Ravana. What they have done to her so she revenged them to Death?

2) Surphnakhs' had only one Son who is being killed by Lakshmana. So instead of revenging with Lakshmana will She plan the Death of Ravana with the Killers of her SOn? I m sure here son must be as dear to her as her Husband.

Now Say. What Do U think?
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: bhakti2

Varnita and Janaki dears how can I ever thank you so much? I am so grateful to you for answering me and you have made me feel so much better truly🤗

Don't thank us Bhakti, because we have not done anything different than friends do for each other.😳 You are very dear to us and though we haven't seen your face, we feel like you're our sister.☺️ So how could we rest knowing that our sister was feeling sad? I'm glad you're feeling happier.🤗
Janaki you have reminded me of the things which is dearmost to my heart which is to think on beloved god - it is like immediate sukhun to the spirit hai na - always a shelter from life's little sharp moments. Yes Bhakti, thinking about God gives us peace of mind even in the worst situation. Especially when others are being critical and mean to us, thinking about God makes us feel like there is always someone looking out for us. So I was able to do this and right away remember the right perspctive to have. i really had not thought of the fact that so many of our aradhyas are dark - i wonder whythis is It's because being dark-skinned or light-skinned is not the basis of life, Bhakti. Too many Indians give such high importance to skin color that it really makes me boil with anger sometimes.😡 I myself do not have fair skin color, and mom tries to make me look fairer with sandalwood pastes and all, and though I know she does not mean it negatively since she's my mother and wants the best for me, I always tell her that if a man refuses to marry me on the basis of skin color without looking to see if I have a good personality or bad, then I am better off not marrying him because such people are fakes. Anyone who judges us based on our skin color are fakes because they only know the superfluous aspects of life. They think what they see is what is real. Like Varnita said, someone dark-skinned can have a beautiful personality and in that way, they are beautiful people, whereas a fair person can be very cruel and if someone terms them beautiful, it is the biggest ignorance on their part. Plus, many of our Gods are dark-skinned and they are described as being very beautiful, attractive people, so if that aunt ever messes with you again you should remind her of this fact.
I could get a smile too finding myself today singing to Chottu and Maithili an old song i knew about when Nandlala asks Yoshodamaiya "Radha kyun gori, main kyun kala?" and i just burst out laughing thinking how even Krishna has asked this question! What does that line mean, Bhakti? I don't know hindi.😳

Btw, I think ki the husband of Soorpnakha was Vidyutjiva (not sure of spelling in Angrezi😆) who was king of the daityas hai na? And Lakshman killed him not realising when he was swinging his weapon in the Dandakaran. I think this as the opening of the strong of events in Dandkaran leading up to Sita Ma's being stolen away by Raavan Vidyutjiva was the son of Shurpanakha Bhakti, not husband. Lakshman killing him by accident led to Shurpanakha roaming the Dandakaranya for his killer and coincidentally setting her eyes on Ramji.

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Posted: 13 years ago
Hai Bhakti 🤗 SO Glad to know that U r fine Now Dear 😊 U can share anything with us anytime :) It will be our pleasure making U feel Good! After all we r Ramayan Buddies lol 😆

Btw, It was not Surphnakha's Husband who was killed by Lakshman, It was Surphnakh's only Son "Shambri" to whom Lakshman had Killed unknowingly :)

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